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Hello MamushiPosted on 12/25/07 at 08:07:28

Here's a conversation starter.  Name some moments in your circuit that you think might qualify as wrestle crap.  Please exclude things where you were intentionally trying to create wrestle crap for your or your reader's amusement.

Here's one of mine...

Savage Siaki in GLWF.  I had a concept for it, I had high hopes for the story arc and at the time it seemed like a good idea.  It however, did not pan out well and now I look back at the angle itself and decided it's definitely a piece of GLWF wrestlecrap.  I still like the basic idea behind the angle, but it just ended up as wrestlecrap when executed like it was.

And share.
jursoPosted on 12/25/07 at 08:24:01

a couple of months ago, I decided I didn't have time to run three circuits, so I consolidated my NWA and my ECW and turned them into TNA ... I kept all the champions and just had unification matches ... I didn't plan it well (due to "life" going on around me), so it came off very bush league, and my TNA is still, to this day suffering (too many top tier guys, not enough mid carders, low carders, etc ... Abyss constantly opens up Impact and I had to let Samoa Joe go)

I am sure I have more, but that is my most recent
JakePosted on 12/25/07 at 08:38:50

4 words:

Shannon Moore. Undisputed Champion.

5 more:

He beat Lesnar for it.
Glum76Posted on 12/25/07 at 22:00:09

I have a created character in one of my independent circuits named "My Name Is Corky."   He's autistic, and all he ever says is "My name is Corky!"  (I was inspired by Timmy on South Park.)  He comes out to Eminem's "My Name Is (Slim Shady)."   Definitely wrestle crap.

pszPosted on 12/26/07 at 05:26:36

So.... You were a booker for Late 90s WCW?
UnrightPosted on 12/26/07 at 20:27:41

Have a seat kids, and I'll tell you all about the time that Eugene quit the WWE and went to TNA. And how TNA saddled him with the gimmick of Nick "I'm not retarded" Dinsmore.
VertigoPosted on 12/27/07 at 17:52:00

When the FCA Cubed plugin came out I had to put it to use. I built up a storyline involving Stan Hansen and Viscera and the blowoff match took place on a farm.

Hello WCW Unsensored.
lazy duckPosted on 12/27/07 at 18:08:46

Motor City Pro Wrestling.....Wrestling Crap at it's greatest!!
91Posted on 12/29/07 at 20:41:09

Most of my "Wrestlecrap" was entirely intentional but one that sticks out as a mistake was a Devon Storm interview. I'd had him do several "shoot" style promos for a few weeks, then I did one for him and just got so overboard that by the time I'd finished, he'd hinted that this was just a simulated fed and proceeded to shoot on me.
ScottPosted on 12/30/07 at 01:52:38

Four Words:

WWE Champion Jonathan Coachman

Four More Words:

I Kid You Not.
VertigoPosted on 01/02/08 at 16:53:04

On 12/29/07 at 20:41:09, 91 wrote:Most of my "Wrestlecrap" was entirely intentional but one that sticks out as a mistake was a Devon Storm interview. I'd had him do several "shoot" style promos for a few weeks, then I did one for him and just got so overboard that by the time I'd finished, he'd hinted that this was just a simulated fed and proceeded to shoot on me.
This is incredible. I laughed out loud, seriously.
Rick GarrardPosted on 01/04/08 at 01:58:44

On 12/25/07 at 22:00:09, Glum76 wrote:I have a created character in one of my independent circuits named "My Name Is Corky." He's autistic, and all he ever says is "My name is Corky!" (I was inspired by Timmy on South Park.) He comes out to Eminem's "My Name Is (Slim Shady)." Definitely wrestle crap.

Corky was the slow guy from the "Life Goes On" TV series.  Art imitating art?
VertigoPosted on 01/04/08 at 15:30:43

Oobla di, oobla dah, Life Goes On...
pszPosted on 01/05/08 at 00:41:21

Nah nah, why don't you get a job?
UnrightPosted on 01/16/08 at 02:47:07

Mikey Whipwreck and Wolfie D are in a tag team together and are being managed by Cherry. They call themselves the Cherry Bombs.

Yes, Cherry is doing better in the real WWE then in my TNM7 ECW fed. That's wrestlecrap.
JeffPosted on 01/16/08 at 03:14:01

many years ago I paired Booker T and D'Lo Brown together, gave them a gangsta gimmick and called them The Original Gangstas ... would also be wrestlecrap


back in the day when I played WWF No Mercy on my N64, I paired Val Venis and Billy Gunn as a team called X-Rated. Did very well on the '64, but when I tried the same gimmick on TNM, they couldn't get over, and also became wrestlecrap. Although I still think that team could have worked in the Attitude era
Hello MamushiPosted on 01/16/08 at 04:37:54

I think both teams in theory could work really well at the right time in history, though less gimmick oriented.
ThnikkamanPosted on 01/16/08 at 04:42:53

I liked X-Rated because it utilized both men's already established gimmick at the time (Val was just starting his porn star gimmick and Billy was "Mr Ass"), so the only change I really had to make was to have both men using Billy's see through ring tights (this was during the N64 run)
Memphis VicePosted on 01/16/08 at 13:41:25

Ice Train & Frank "The Tank" Melson form a tag team called The Department of Transportation. They feud with Repo Man & IRS and eventually add Roadblock as a 3rd member.

Ivan Koloff recruits The Amazing Red to communism and they become The Red Army.

Anything and everything done by the "Psycho Dread" stable: Luna, Maddog Vachon, Victoria, Gangrel, Homicide, Psicosis, and Billy Black.

Robert Roode, King of the Ring.

Bill & Randy Mulkey taking breaks during matches to try to sell Mulkeymania t-shirts to the audience.

Wrestlemania I headlined by heel Haku beating face Rhyno for the World Title in a match that got -**1/2

Yokozuna "wins" a ladder match when Mr. Fuji climbs the ladder for him. If that's not good enough to make Wrestlecrap, then how about Commisioner Cornette's ruling the next night that since Fuji can climb ladders, he's no longer allowed to carry a cane to ringside?

Randy Savage almost beats up Sherri after she gets him DQed, but Sandman makes the save, by telling Savage: "Pound beers, not women."

Road Warriors feud with Chivas Rayadas, and the lucha-goats win every match in the series.

JeepGuyPosted on 01/16/08 at 15:21:41

On 01/16/08 at 13:41:25, Memphis Vice wrote:Bill & Randy Mulkey taking breaks during matches to try to sell Mulkeymania t-shirts to the audience.
Love this one.

Are there Mulkey exports somewhere?
Hello MamushiPosted on 01/16/08 at 18:33:52

On 01/16/08 at 13:41:25, Memphis Vice wrote:Robert Roode, King of the Ring.
Pushed the right way I could buy that as legit.  I like Roode's ringwork, it's his mic work that holds him back.

Bill & Randy Mulkey taking breaks during matches to try to sell Mulkeymania t-shirts to the audience.
THAT would get over like gangbuster on the indies.  In fact, I may have to steal it when I get back into wrestling.  :D
ThnikkamanPosted on 01/16/08 at 18:37:25

On 01/16/08 at 18:33:52, Hello Mamushi wrote:

Pushed the right way I could buy that as legit.  I like Roode's ringwork, it's his mic work that holds him back.
Roode has been my Intercontinental Champion since July ... currently feuding with Ted Dibiase Jr over the belt with their latest match at this year's Royal Rumble
Memphis VicePosted on 01/16/08 at 20:03:29

On 01/16/08 at 15:21:41, JeepGuy wrote:
Love this one.

Are there Mulkey exports somewhere?
Somewhere, of some degree of quality. I think I cleaned mine up a bit. I should really start posting exports that I have "cleaned up" because more often than not when I start using someone in a circuit, I check their stats, see that their export needs some work, which I dutifully give it.
ThnikkamanPosted on 01/16/08 at 20:11:54

just thought of another wrestlecrap tag team I had ... I ran an angle where Sting got bitter with the fans and the whole "Sting" gimmick, so he dropped it and began using his real name, Steve Borden ... after this angle ran its course, I teamed him with Ray Traylor and called them the Hired Guns, going for an APA type gimmick
JeepGuyPosted on 01/16/08 at 21:26:29

On 01/16/08 at 20:03:29, Memphis Vice wrote:

Somewhere, of some degree of quality. I think I cleaned mine up a bit. I should really start posting exports that I have "cleaned up" because more often than not when I start using someone in a circuit, I check their stats, see that their export needs some work, which I dutifully give it.
If you have cleaned up exports and post them, I shall crown you the "King of All Exports"!!!!!!

That was something I was wondering about when picking up exports from various places and created by different people. How do you know if they are all in sync with each other?
91Posted on 01/16/08 at 22:56:21

On 01/16/08 at 13:41:25, Memphis Vice wrote:
Yokozuna "wins" a ladder match when Mr. Fuji climbs the ladder for him. If that's not good enough to make Wrestlecrap, then how about Commisioner Cornette's ruling the next night that since Fuji can climb ladders, he's no longer allowed to carry a cane to ringside?
Brilliant!

I also just remember an angle from an old circuit that will have been churned out by myself on these boards every few years whenever I recollect it. So Chris Jericho keeps getting stalked by Sting... we're not talking during his matches, we're talking in the locker rooms, perching on the ceiling like Batman while Jericho is getting changed. Jericho makes some off-the-cuff remark about Sting going to hang out with Goldust (because Goldust is gay, of course).

So of course, he does just that, and they call themselves YMCA (that's "Young Male Chris (Jericho) Admirers", which works on two levels because of course the Village People were gay icons) and they go around stalking Chris Jericho and trying to have their way with him. Finally they get a tag match pitting YMCA against Jericho and his bodyguard Crush (a union I returned to for my DWF circuit) whereby if YMCA won, they got a night with Jericho. Sure enough they did win but Jericho reneged on the deal and left Crush with them instead. Better than nothing, cue much hilarity the next night with various jokes about how Crush is unable to sit down. The final match comes about when in a return tag encounter, this time in a ladder match, if YMCA win then Jericho has to marry Sting. Sadly Jericho picks up the win and I think that might have been it, though this was several years ago.

You know I'm just looking at reigniting that particular angle now...
JeepGuyPosted on 01/17/08 at 15:04:37

A long while back, I did a circuit with created/fantasy wrestlers and the cards would open with a segment, usually with a janitor cleaning up some mess made by some of the wrestlers or being picked on, his usual tormentors being the masked tag team, The Surfadores.

Finally, he had enough and fought back, using the tools of his trade to pound some sense into the Surfadores and anyone else who messed with him ... thus Janitor 187 was born.

Following that, in matches he used to leave the ring and pull out his handy dandy Wrestling For Dummies book to pick up a new move or reference he'd use.

That was alot of fun, I should pick that up again.
ThnikkamanPosted on 01/17/08 at 17:07:48

On 01/17/08 at 15:04:37, JeepGuy wrote:A long while back, I did a circuit with created/fantasy wrestlers and the cards would open with a segment, usually with a janitor cleaning up some mess made by some of the wrestlers or being picked on, his usual tormentors being the masked tag team, The Surfadores.

Finally, he had enough and fought back, using the tools of his trade to pound some sense into the Surfadores and anyone else who messed with him ... thus Janitor 187 was born.

Following that, in matches he used to leave the ring and pull out his handy dandy Wrestling For Dummies book to pick up a new move or reference he'd use.

That was alot of fun, I should pick that up again.
now that is brilliant
UnrightPosted on 01/17/08 at 18:33:28

On 01/17/08 at 17:07:48, Thnikkaman wrote:

now that is brilliant
Agreed.
ScottPosted on 01/17/08 at 19:17:06

On 01/17/08 at 15:04:37, JeepGuy wrote:A long while back, I did a circuit with created/fantasy wrestlers and the cards would open with a segment, usually with a janitor cleaning up some mess made by some of the wrestlers or being picked on, his usual tormentors being the masked tag team, The Surfadores.

Finally, he had enough and fought back, using the tools of his trade to pound some sense into the Surfadores and anyone else who messed with him ... thus Janitor 187 was born.

Following that, in matches he used to leave the ring and pull out his handy dandy Wrestling For Dummies book to pick up a new move or reference he'd use.

That was alot of fun, I should pick that up again.
Since he's a janitor does he mop up the ring after he wins his matches?
JeepGuyPosted on 01/17/08 at 21:29:55

On 01/17/08 at 19:17:06, Scott wrote:
Since he's a janitor does he mop up the ring after he wins his matches?
;D
ScottPosted on 01/17/08 at 23:46:01

Does anyone remember Glenn Kulka, the former CFL player that had a WWF Developmental Contract back during the Memphis Power Pro days (late 90s)?

Back in 2000 I brought him into my WWF circuit as a tag team partner of Gillberg. He referred to himself as The Kulkster, and talked about all his Kulkamaniacs. I was running WWF, WCW, and an ECW circuits at the time. WCW retaliated by having Barry Darsow do a terrible rip off of Steve Austin, and Van Hammer trying to impersonate Triple H.

ECW stayed away from that, not that I never had any wrestlecrap moments with them either.
YunPosted on 01/19/08 at 21:32:07

On 01/17/08 at 15:04:37, JeepGuy wrote:A long while back, I did a circuit with created/fantasy wrestlers and the cards would open with a segment, usually with a janitor cleaning up some mess made by some of the wrestlers or being picked on, his usual tormentors being the masked tag team, The Surfadores.

Finally, he had enough and fought back, using the tools of his trade to pound some sense into the Surfadores and anyone else who messed with him ... thus Janitor 187 was born.

Following that, in matches he used to leave the ring and pull out his handy dandy Wrestling For Dummies book to pick up a new move or reference he'd use.

That was alot of fun, I should pick that up again.
Reminds me of when I cast the Maximo brothers as the actual Spanish Announce Team.
ScottPosted on 01/20/08 at 01:32:21

I remember I brought in a bunch of puro wrestlers to a circuit one time.

What's the big deal?

They were in a stable together, and were all billed as American Indians: Hiroyoshi Tenzan was the leader as Chief Tenzan, Then there was Warrior Funaki, and my personal favorite, Scalper Tajiri.
ThnikkamanPosted on 02/08/08 at 20:21:29

ok, a couple more WC moments ...

took a wrestler called Jersey Hurricane, changed his name to Slim, had Eminem manage him and gave him the "Slim Shaddy" song as an entrance theme. Held my Cruiserweight title in that circuit for about 5 minutes.

And, I am about to introduce a new tag team in my WWE circuit. You may know them as Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli, the Kings of Wrestling. Well, Hero is now Christo, Claudio is still Claudio, and they are the Italian Hearthrobs. Either this is going to work and they will be tag champs, or this will suck, and they will be gone, or repackaged, or both. But hey, I needed a new tag team on Raw.
Psycho ScottPosted on 02/08/08 at 20:34:44

On 02/08/08 at 20:21:29, Thnikkaman wrote:ok, a couple more WC moments ...

took a wrestler called Jersey Hurricane, changed his name to Slim, had Eminem manage him and gave him the "Slim Shaddy" song as an entrance theme. Held my Cruiserweight title in that circuit for about 5 minutes.

And, I am about to introduce a new tag team in my WWE circuit. You may know them as Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli, the Kings of Wrestling. Well, Hero is now Christo, Claudio is still Claudio, and they are the Italian Hearthrobs. Either this is going to work and they will be tag champs, or this will suck, and they will be gone, or repackaged, or both. But hey, I needed a new tag team on Raw.
Christo, that sounds like a brand of lard.
JeepGuyPosted on 02/08/08 at 22:58:01

On 02/08/08 at 20:34:44, Psycho Scott wrote:Christo, that sounds like a brand of lard.
That's what he puts on his hair. Italian hair tonic!
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 02/16/09 at 02:04:17


more Wrestlecrap ... and this would so get over in the south ...

Braden Walker ... Cousin Jimmy (James Storm) ... Peyton Walker (Peyton Banks) ... The Walker Family ... entrance music: Cotton Eyed Joe!

CarlzillaPosted on 02/16/09 at 04:02:36

A long while back I was running Neo Wrestling Japan, an entertainment/tradition puroresu hybrid, I decided to bring Kanyon into the fed, and couldn't think of anything for him to do, so he changed his name to Minoru Kanyon, and joined Minoru Tanaka & Minoru Fujita as the third member of Minoru Super Plus.

I also teamed up Jyushin Lyger and Tiger Mask IV as a team called Thundercats.
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 02/16/09 at 04:04:05

On 02/16/09 at 04:02:36, Carlzilla wrote:
I also teamed up Jyushin Lyger and Tiger Mask IV as a team called Thundercats.
that's too fun
CarlzillaPosted on 02/16/09 at 05:15:30

On 02/16/09 at 04:04:05, jeff the god of biscuits wrote:

that's too fun
This fed was in a TNM super-league, I'm pretty sure everyone was a fan of Thundercats. They even held the league wide tag titles for a bit.
PlutarPosted on 02/16/09 at 06:31:47

The year is 1968 in my most ambitious circuit yet. I started it in 1945 running one circuit a month. Looking through circuit history gives me a great sense of history and pride. 23 years have gone by leading up to this defining moment:

Iron Man Match
Andre the Giant beat Butch Miller 9 falls to 5:
x Butch beat Andre via the Battering Ram in 0:06:46
x Butch beat Andre via the Battering Ram in 0:14:26
x Butch beat Andre via the Battering Ram in 0:18:35
x Butch beat Andre with a belt shot in 0:22:38
x Butch beat Andre via the Battering Ram in 0:24:20
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:27:00
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:32:16
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:38:02
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:38:34
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:41:35
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:44:58
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:50:59
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:51:57
x Andre beat Butch via the Body Slam in 0:56:30
x time limit expired (Butch and Andre) in 1:00:00
Rating: -*****
(Andre the Giant retained the NWA Television Championship.)

I guess it could have been worse, Butch could have won....
Snabbit888Posted on 02/16/09 at 06:54:37

Ha ha... that is super.  Booked or unbooked?
PlutarPosted on 02/16/09 at 06:59:43

Oh that's unbooked. 8)
Snabbit888Posted on 02/16/09 at 07:01:42

I'm talking about the circuit in general.  Champs, history, top wrestlers of those 23 years, etc.
ZedjaPosted on 02/16/09 at 09:31:00

On 02/16/09 at 04:02:36, Carlzilla wrote:A long while back I was running Neo Wrestling Japan, an entertainment/tradition puroresu hybrid, I decided to bring Kanyon into the fed, and couldn't think of anything for him to do, so he changed his name to Minoru Kanyon, and joined Minoru Tanaka & Minoru Fujita as the third member of Minoru Super Plus.

I also teamed up Jyushin Lyger and Tiger Mask IV as a team called Thundercats.
Hey!!! My team of Liger and my own character Zedja is called Thundercats too..
PlutarPosted on 02/16/09 at 10:39:24

On 02/16/09 at 07:01:42, Snabbit888 wrote:I'm talking about the circuit in general. Champs, history, top wrestlers of those 23 years, etc.
Right now Danny Hodge is the the world champ, Giant Baba US champ, Dusty Rhodes tv champ and the tag champs are Crusher & Bruiser. I don't really go for all that storyline stuff, but I love rules.

I have 3 brands. World, US, and TV. Tv is for wrestlers with less than 5 years of experience, us 5 - 10 years and world 10+ years. Each brand has 16 wrestlers. Wrestlers are retired whenever they die in real life (ala Rikidozan) or at the age of 45. I've assigned each wrestler a ranking from 1 to 5. This helps with contract negotiation. Wrestlers with a ranking of 1 I don't renew, 2 I renew for 6 cards, 3 for 9 cards, 4 for 12 cards and 5 for 52 cards. I only hire through mystery wrestlers, whenever a brand falls below 16 I hire as many mystery wrestlers as necessary. My goal is to catch up with the current year. Your exports have been very helpful with this circuit. And I think it was you who gave me the idea for this in another thread. Thanks!

There have been a few dominant wrestlers in this unbooked circuit. El Santo, Lou Thesz, Bobo Brazil, Skull Murphy, The Crusher, Dick the Bruiser, and the most dominant so far has been Karl Gotch who retired with a record of 117:23:4

I can't wait to get the 80's! This circuit has been so liberating as I've been a slave to the same ol' same ol' circuits with high workrate guys and it's just kind of fun to either be annoyed when mystery hire puts Big Daddy in the title run or Karl Gotch on an 18 month streak with the US title. Anybody else run a circuit like mine?
Snabbit888Posted on 02/16/09 at 10:50:20

Do you find you get a lot of title changes?  For some reason whenever I run unbooked, the titles seem to change hands all the f'n time.

It sounds like fun though.  I'm running an old school circuit now as well.  Mine is pretty much all booked though but I do have the same basic setup as you do.  Started in January of 1963, running one card every 4 weeks, or 13 cards a year.  They're basically all done as "supercards" which I plan on continuing until I get to the mid-80's.  I'm basically following the WWE path where I'll start doing a weekly show, PPVs, etc.
PlutarPosted on 02/16/09 at 11:26:32

The way I combat quick title changes is by making title matches anything but single fall. I prefer Iron man matches, I still get quick changes but since the shortest time a wrestler can hold the title is 1 month then it's not really all that short.
LillaThrillaPosted on 02/22/09 at 23:25:30

That Janitor 187 gimmick is BRILLIANT.

My booking days created a fair share of Wrestlecrap, thanks to my odd sense of humor.

IHLW was a long stream of intentional Wrestlecrap, including:
  • The New Power Rangers: Battle Ranger, Cosmo*Soldier, Ludxor White, Venum Black, and their leader Al Greene as The Greene Ranger.
  • Jim Neidhart reprising his Who gimmick, which lead to a conversation with Goldberg wherein Goldberg threatened to kick him in the head if he didn't knock off the "who" jokes (a reference to Goldberg concussing Jim's cousin Bret with an errant kick - if you don't get it)
  • Ricky Marvin as The Rick (a knockoff of The Rock)
  • Maxx Payne, Bull Pain, and Cham Pain as the stable Maximum Pain.
  • Chris Michaels doing an HBK gimmick
  • Jeff Farmer (nWo Sting) as The Stinger, a fake neon facepaint Sting
  • Horace Hogan as Hulk Horace, doing a Hulkamania gimmick
  • John Zandig from CZW pretending to be Zangief from Street Fighter
  • Tiger Ali Singh burning an American flag
  • The Dudleyz: Ahmed Johnson Dudley and Big Dick Dudley
  • The Wall as a neo-Nazi
  • Chris the Bambikiller as one my top heels. Since the circuit originally taped in Orlando, he went for cheap heat my getting the mic before a match and announcing: "To all you Disney lovers out there...DIE BAMBI DIE! AHAHAHAHA!"
  • Axl Rotten vs Ian Rotten in a 7 minute Barbedwire Match where NEITHER GUY BLED. (I'd love to say that was supposed to be irony but it as just a random TNM goof.)
  • Tzuki (a Mexican mini) getting booked over normal size luchadores, prompting all the luchadores to beat him to a pulp backstage. Steve Keirn, doing announcing duties in his Skinner gimmick seeing this happen and exclaiming "Ohmygawd- they killed Tzuki! You bastards!"
  • Rick Bogner reprising his Fake Razor Ramon gimmick, except this time calling himself Razor Ramierez (to avoid a WWE lawsuit of course!)


And lets not forget the segment that opened IHLW Era 2:
We get the highlights of the old IHLW, circa October 2000: Tzuki getting the snot beat out of
him by all the other luchadores, Psicosis competiting in the J-Cup, 911 chokeslamming alot of
people, the various announcers IHLW went through who were all taken out by various incidents,
neonazi Wall vs street fighter Zandig, Meng fueding with Lex Luger, the formation of Extreme Sin,
Funkin' Rotten taking the tag titles, Razor Ramierz, Skinner...it all goes faster and faster until...

Lex Luger suddenly awakes in hotel bed. He's in a cold sweat and looks around nervously. Sting
wakes up in the other bed in the room.
Sting: Bad dream Lex?
Luger: Yeah, horrible horrible nightmare. I dreamed I left for WWF for more money, they made me
look like an idiot, I came back to WCW, Hogan came to WCW, horrible booking, you hung out in the
rafters, WCW was in horrible shape, I got released and ended up in this crazy indy fueding with
Meng. It was all so...real...
Sting: Yes no yes no yes no.
Luger: NO!!!
Sting leans out of the shadows to reveal he's actually Ed Leslie in Sting facepaint. Luger freaks
and stumbles out of bed, hurridly undoes the locks on the hotel room, and opens the door...to find
himself face to face (face to chest?) with 911 who grabs him by the throat and chokeslams him
through the bed. Leslie laughs like a maniac as the IHLW logo appears on the screen.
I think PWF's biggest Wrestlecrap moment was Carp (Chris Carpenter of TNM list fame) showing up to attack me with a chainsaw, a fued blown off in a Buried Alive Match. Honorable mention to El Taco Fuerza, a luchadore with a love of Taco Bell. He held the Cruiserweight Title at one point.
ROH, Indy, NHL,and Puro FAN69Posted on 02/23/09 at 05:49:14

On 02/22/09 at 23:25:30, LillaThrilla wrote:That Janitor 187 gimmick is BRILLIANT.

My booking days created a fair share of Wrestlecrap, thanks to my odd sense of humor.

IHLW was a long stream of intentional Wrestlecrap, including:
  • The New Power Rangers: Battle Ranger, Cosmo*Soldier, Ludxor White, Venum Black, and their leader Al Greene as The Greene Ranger.
  • Jim Neidhart reprising his Who gimmick, which lead to a conversation with Goldberg wherein Goldberg threatened to kick him in the head if he didn't knock off the "who" jokes (a reference to Goldberg concussing Jim's cousin Bret with an errant kick - if you don't get it)
  • Ricky Marvin as The Rick (a knockoff of The Rock)
  • Maxx Payne, Bull Pain, and Cham Pain as the stable Maximum Pain.
  • Chris Michaels doing an HBK gimmick
  • Jeff Farmer (nWo Sting) as The Stinger, a fake neon facepaint Sting
  • Horace Hogan as Hulk Horace, doing a Hulkamania gimmick
  • John Zandig from CZW pretending to be Zangief from Street Fighter
  • Tiger Ali Singh burning an American flag
  • The Dudleyz: Ahmed Johnson Dudley and Big Dick Dudley
  • The Wall as a neo-Nazi
  • Chris the Bambikiller as one my top heels. Since the circuit originally taped in Orlando, he went for cheap heat my getting the mic before a match and announcing: "To all you Disney lovers out there...DIE BAMBI DIE! AHAHAHAHA!"
  • Axl Rotten vs Ian Rotten in a 7 minute Barbedwire Match where NEITHER GUY BLED. (I'd love to say that was supposed to be irony but it as just a random TNM goof.)
  • Tzuki (a Mexican mini) getting booked over normal size luchadores, prompting all the luchadores to beat him to a pulp backstage. Steve Keirn, doing announcing duties in his Skinner gimmick seeing this happen and exclaiming "Ohmygawd- they killed Tzuki! You bastards!"
  • Rick Bogner reprising his Fake Razor Ramon gimmick, except this time calling himself Razor Ramierez (to avoid a WWE lawsuit of course!)


And lets not forget the segment that opened IHLW Era 2:

I think PWF's biggest Wrestlecrap moment was Carp (Chris Carpenter of TNM list fame) showing up to attack me with a chainsaw, a fued blown off in a Buried Alive Match. Honorable mention to El Taco Fuerza, a luchadore with a love of Taco Bell. He held the Cruiserweight Title at one point.
That's awesome shit.

I can remember when the WWF had a developmental wrestler by the name of Glen Kulka who played in the CFL. He was in Memphis Power Pro way back when they had the developmental contracts with the WWF.

Well anyway, I was actually running a WWF Circuit at the time, as well as Power Pro with most of the guys who were under developmental deals at the time, including Kurt Angle. Well anyway Kulka was a heel, and was booked as such in Power Pro, and even held the Power Pro title until he lost a loser leaves town match (which is usually how I wrote them off after being called up or released from their developmental contract) *This was back around late '98 I ran these circuits.

Well anyway, Kulka got called up to the WWF, and made his debut against Al Snow in a match that Al Snow pretty much embarassed the newcomer. Kulka went on to eventually win both the WWF hardcore and tag team titles as a heel (tagged with the man now known as Giant Bernard), but lost the tag titles in his first defense. This set up a feud between Albert and Kulka, in which Albert won the hardcore title from him. The following week Albert was cutting a promo when familiar tune piped out of the speaker system. The tune was "Real American" by Rick Derringer. But it was not who you think. It was Glenn Kulka, wearing a bandana, his hair died blonde, and a yellow shirt with Kulkamania in red letters. He was now rechristened "The Kulkster", and working as a babyface for the first time in his career, he defeated Albert for the hardcore title with his patented "Atomic  Knee Drop" a play on Hogan's legdrop of course. He went on to defeat Albert again, and then defeated Goldust before dropping the title to Sid Vicious. After the loss to Sid, he was released from his contract.
91Posted on 02/23/09 at 19:58:52

Lilla, you're a man after my own heart.
PlutarPosted on 03/18/09 at 01:42:31

It's 1984 in my old-school circuit. I've teamed Honky Tonk Man with Jerry Lawler who are cousins that don't get along with eachother and Jake Roberts with Sam Houston. Roberts and Houston are brothers but I don't think Jake is much of a family guy seeing as how he claims his Dad was a pedophile and all-around bad guy. Definitely wrestle crap.
PulsarPosted on 04/03/09 at 13:30:46

I just read that Glen Kulka had an MMA match recently (that he lost) and went by the nickname "The Kulkster"
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 12/13/09 at 05:06:06

been thinking about this one that I know is wrestle crap ...

back in the late 90s I was running a circuit that was just starting up ... I had Sting in it, just as he had started using his black and white look ... I got inspired by a Nitro where multiple Stings came to the ring ...

I had Sting wrestling a match where another Sting came and distracted him, only this Sting was wearing Red and Black paint and gear ... the next week, Red and Black Sting was joined by Blue and Black Sting ... and then Yellow and Black Sting ... I was just finding guys who were close to Sting's height and weight and modifying them to be the different color Stings ...

it didn't really work out too well, and I had to drop the angle pretty quickly ... but it was fun none the less.
JeepGuyPosted on 01/12/10 at 20:17:07

Does anybody have any of their cards with this stuff written up or was this done solely in your heads?
LillaThrillaPosted on 01/12/10 at 23:25:42

On 01/12/10 at 20:17:07, JeepGuy wrote:Does anybody have any of their cards with this stuff written up or was this done solely in your heads?
IHLW is still up as part of my TNM 3:16 site...
http://joshism.net/tnm/ihlw/ihlw.html
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 01/13/10 at 03:55:59

On 01/12/10 at 20:17:07, JeepGuy wrote:Does anybody have any of their cards with this stuff written up or was this done solely in your heads?
I write mine up as the card is running ... just notes really ... I have two kids, and two jobs and volunteer activities so I really don't have time to spend writing up cards anymore ...
SeanH529Posted on 01/13/10 at 06:27:02

This was fun to read tonight. My USWA fed I'm sure has a bunch of crap in it. I haven't really changed anyones gimmicks, but I think the biggest epic fail in my booking was bringing in Goldberg.  I needed to starting bringing in some main event guys so I bring him in. In his first match he wins, but of course gets hurt for 4 cards (which turned out to be 8 with my card multiplier.) Then he comes back, loses his next match to Taz, then I tried to get him set up for a nice streak of wins and a return match against Taz, and he quits.


The other major fail in my USWA was the first ever champion being unbooked in a battle royal and it ended up being Wolfie D. Not only did I somehow let 1/2 of a tag team win the title, I figured it would be okay since Wolfie is a USWA regular, well then he goes and quits AS THE CHAMPION. Totally screwed the beginning of my circuit. I'm big on maintaining story lines with the history of the circuit and I just still to this day don't know why I let all that occur.
LillaThrillaPosted on 01/13/10 at 23:31:39

On 01/13/10 at 06:27:02, SeanH529 wrote:well then he goes and quits AS THE CHAMPION. Totally screwed the beginning of my circuit.
Was this before or after you could force a champion to defend his title even if he'd quit your circuit?
pszPosted on 01/14/10 at 00:56:31

I thought since 6.2 you could use the tilde trick (It was tilde, wasn't it?) to use a "non-hired" wrestler to wrestle?
Snabbit888Posted on 01/15/10 at 04:46:46

Correct.
PlutarPosted on 01/15/10 at 05:07:44

you can also select a champion by pushing i in the match screen. It will bring up a list of current title holders and selecting them will put them in the match regardless of injury or contract.
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 01/16/10 at 21:09:20


I know that this is going to be wrestle crap, but I am gonna do it anyway ...

"The Glamorous" Charlie Haas ... Charlie Haas with Beth Phoenix's music, some of her mannerisms, and a little Sylvain and Adrian Adonis thrown in ...
Drunken FoolPosted on 01/16/10 at 23:11:40

On 01/16/10 at 21:09:20, jeff the god of biscuits wrote:
I know that this is going to be wrestle crap, but I am gonna do it anyway ...

"The Glamorous" Charlie Haas ... Charlie Haas with Beth Phoenix's music, some of her mannerisms, and a little Sylvain and Adrian Adonis thrown in ...
You created Rico?
jeff the god of biscuitsPosted on 01/17/10 at 03:06:30

On 01/16/10 at 23:11:40, Drunken Fool wrote:

You created Rico?
its been seven years, right?
SeanH529Posted on 01/17/10 at 03:49:17

On 01/15/10 at 05:07:44, Plutar wrote:you can also select a champion by pushing i in the match screen. It will bring up a list of current title holders and selecting them will put them in the match regardless of injury or contract.
I'd have to look at the old cards, but I am pretty sure I just had him vacate the title and the Shane Douglas won it. I've never had a champ quit. It was actually horrible. I believe that Brian Christopher I was trying to push as a champ and he quit too. Wrestlers just didn't like my USWA when it started, but man now a days everyone I book in main matches ends up resigning.