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damage on cradles, roll-ups, etc.

Memphis_VicePosted on 08/12/07 at 21:43:40

Does a move have to deal damage in order to score a pinfall? Seems to me like roll-ups, cradles, etc. might not do any "damage" per se.
VertigoPosted on 08/13/07 at 18:03:02

Consider the damage to be from them attempting to escape the pinfall rather than the bump itself.
LillaThrillaPosted on 08/13/07 at 23:48:45

On 08/12/07 at 21:43:40, Memphis_Vice wrote: Does a move have to deal damage in order to score a pinfall? Seems to me like roll-ups, cradles, etc. might not do any "damage" per se.
It's a good question.

My thinking is that all cradles, etc have always had a damage value in TNM, including the default ones that come with an otherwise empty program.  I'd be curious to know Oliver's 2 cents on the matter...
Homer_SimpsonPosted on 08/27/07 at 20:24:15

I think in real life it would depend on the pinning/cradle move. I can see say a high speed sunset flip acutally doing a bit of damage, but say a basic schoolboy probably not so much.  ;D
pszPosted on 08/28/07 at 04:37:31

Unless the opponent has a very stiff/already injured back.
King_Of_Old_SchoolPosted on 12/10/07 at 12:48:31

What's the difference, if any, between a double leg cradle and a jackknife cradle?
A True Brazilian PatriotPosted on 12/11/07 at 22:41:15

a double-leg cradle is just in as a counter for sunset flips, victory rolls and other moves you can counter by cradling the legs.