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| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/11/04 at 19:03:31 I saw that LillaThrilla did something close to this back in Feb 2003 (last page) but mine is a bit simpler. This is a compiled list of moves that ANY wrestler is prone to use at any given time. My hope is to help people who want to pad their wrestlers movesets. (Last Updated: September 14, 2007): 60 Moves In Total (including 'variety' moves)
Most of these moves (if not all) have their names taken from their counterparts in my various copies of TNM7 (First & Second Edition). |
| 91 | Posted on 08/11/04 at 19:36:57 Well, what about punches and kicks? Everyone resorts to them once in a while. And if you're still looking for moves, how about roll aways and side steps? |
| americamamushi | Posted on 08/11/04 at 19:44:37 The only moves I really give to everyone i make are... punch kick to the midsection And 99% of the time I give them... Bodyslam Sleeperhold Clothesline Depends on what I'm going for |
| DragonShirasaya | Posted on 08/11/04 at 19:55:01 I'd at these to the list: Armbar/cross armbreaker Armbreaker Arm drag Arm wringer Backslide Body splash/Avalanche (in the corner) Chin lock Chokehold Dropkick (its arguable, but most guys will do one at some point) Drop toehold Front facelock Half crab Hammerlock Headlock Headlock takedown Jawbreaker/chin crusher School boy cradle Shoulder block Waistlock takedown Wrist lock I'm not even going to get into punches and kicks - especially since most people don't really have a lot of distinction in basic strikes in their TNM. |
| Shadow_Maxx | Posted on 08/11/04 at 23:01:44 i usually do: abdomnal stretch back suplex bodyslam ddt (if they're new blood) elbowdrop kick to the midsection some kind of punch (punch, roundhouse right) piledriver vertical suplex if they're old-school, an airplane spin. if they're a high-flyer, a flying legdrop and maybe a senton or two. spinning leg lariat, a frankensteiner. if they're a puro-like powerhouse, a backdrop driver and a power bomb. usually i just go through and get 15 or so average moves like an armbreaker, a kneebar, etc, then go through and pick about 10-15 moves that fit in with their character. first move i always make an out-of-the-ropes move like a clothesline or a lariat or a leg lariat or something. |
| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/12/04 at 00:07:04 Wow. Can't believe I forgot "kick to the midsection". That's usually my setup move for everything. ;D DragonShirasaya, I suppose if Kane can do a dropkick, anyone can. Although I shudder at the thought of Big Show or Andre the Giant performing one. :o |
| 91 | Posted on 08/12/04 at 00:21:00 Andre maybe not, but I'm pretty sure Big Show has. And don't go too overboard with all these basic moves. Right now there's well over twenty that's been listed, but leave plenty of room for the wrestler specific stuff, wontcha. |
| DragonShirasaya | Posted on 08/12/04 at 01:30:25 I didn't think the idea was that you should give EVERY wrestler these moves. My impression is the guy wanted a list compiled of moves anyone can do to fill those spots when you need an extra move or two for an export. And by the way, Andre did a dropkick in his time. If you want to get a good idea of what it was like and can't find the footage, just see if you can find the Hindenberg crashing. Its the same idea... |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 08/12/04 at 02:37:20On 08/11/04 at 19:36:57, 91 wrote:Well, what about punches and kicks? Everyone resorts to them once in a while. And if you're still looking for moves, how about roll aways and side steps?Roll aways and sidesteps shouldn't be included in a wrestler's moveset unless you really want your wrestler to roll around on the mat or hop around like a moron as part of their offense. These moves are defensive in nature, and will automatically trigger as counters to many high flying moves, etc. Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |
| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/12/04 at 17:49:35On 08/12/04 at 01:30:25, DragonShirasaya wrote:I didn't think the idea was that you should give EVERY wrestler these moves. My impression is the guy wanted a list compiled of moves anyone can do to fill those spots when you need an extra move or two for an export.You're correct. If anyone's curious, here's the "current" list. Could be helpful to someone else. *NOTE* I changed some of the names to match their TNM7 names. abdominal stretch armbar armbreaker armdrag takedown backslide back suplex backdrop bodyslam clothesline chinlock chokehold chop DDT dropkick drop toe hold elbowdrop elbowsmash forearm smash/forearm to the back gutwrench suplex half Boston hammerlock headbutt headlock takedown high cross body hiptoss jawbreaker kick to the midsection kneedrop some *other* kick (kick to the head, kick to the leg, Big Boot) piledriver roll up some kind of punch (punch, roundhouse right) schoolboy cradle shoulderblock side headlock single-leg takedown sleeperhold snap mare Stinger Splash stomp/series of stomps vertical suplex waistlock takedown As said earlier, you don't want to give someone EVERY move, just pick what would go best with your wrestler. Thanks. :) |
| John Proulx | Posted on 08/14/04 at 23:40:45 A few I'm surprised haven't come up yet: elbowsmash forearm smash/forearm to the back headbutt high cross body kneedrop series of punches/mounted punches snap mare stomp/series of stomps |
| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/15/04 at 04:04:21 That's because I haven't be on. :) Those moves (most of them) were added yesterday as I watched a few matches between most of the wrestlers in my TNM7. I ran about 50-odd Battle Royals. Edit arm wringer wrist lock =========== Aren't those two moves the same as a hammerlock? Or am I mistaken? front facelock =========== Having a blonde moment, can someone describe this move to me? |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 08/15/04 at 05:04:40 You know the position a wrestler puts their opponent into to deliver a vertical suplex? That's a front facelock. Typically if it's being used as a submission, it will be applied on the mat instead of while standing. Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |
| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/15/04 at 06:23:39 Thanks. It was one of those "I know what it is!" moments. Also, I realize I've also forgotten the neckbreaker. |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 08/15/04 at 08:00:39 A neckbreaker typically has a wrestler grabbing their opponent by the head and using leverage to make them fall to the ground landing on their upper back. This can either be done by swinging them into position in passing or by simply grabbing them from behind. The latter is one of Triple H's most common moves. Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |
| DragonShirasaya | Posted on 08/15/04 at 18:09:53 To the guy above, a hammerlock is much different from the other two. An armwringer is when you grab the oppone;ts arm and twist it over your head, pulling down. Jake the Snake used to do a series of these in a row and then would elbow the opponent's arm. Booker T does an armwringer into a back heel kick. Just to give you an exact idea of what it is... A wristlock is often perofrmed out of the armwringer. The armwringer is the actual motion of pulling the arm over your head nad pulling down though, as I described above. The wristlock involves simply taking the wrist and twisting it. Chris Benoit often gets into the Crippler Crossface from a wristlock. A hammerlock is done from behind where the wrestler takes his opponent's arm and moves it behind the opponent's back and pushes up. Hope that clears your confusion. |
| xsouporherox | Posted on 08/15/04 at 18:10:40 A hammerlock is when you take the opponent's arm behind their back and tweak it. An arm wringer is when you grab their wrist and hold it out to their side at about shoulder level, 'twisting' it. I've seen both called a wristlock. |
| kurropt_antagonist | Posted on 08/17/04 at 19:25:16 Critic of the Dawn, I meant that I left the neckbreaker off the list. :) Thanks for the clear up on the arm wringer and wrist lock. It's much appreciated. |
| Jake | Posted on 03/18/07 at 23:59:04 BUMP! I plan on editing/adding to the list soon. Just want it where I can find it. |
| Jake | Posted on 03/29/07 at 21:15:42 First post updated. Total moves: 58. |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/15/07 at 05:05:22 I know this is an old post but I just had to respond: What about the old thumb to the eye? ;D |
| Jake | Posted on 09/15/07 at 05:07:28 Heh, can't believe I left that out. Thanks. |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/15/07 at 05:16:29 I added a few myself to tnm: 1. back rake 2. series of ten headsmashes into the turnbuckle 3. series of ten mounted turnbuckle punches 4. groin stomp 5. chop to the groin |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 09/17/07 at 16:01:54 I must say I think this list is TOO expansive. In terms "basic moves that pretty much anyone can/will/did do at some point". Enzuigiri? Gutwrench suplex? Hotshot? :-/ I would trim it down to: EVERBODY (27) abdominal stretch armbar submission backbreaker belly-to-back suplex (aka back suplex) bodyslam chop clothesline DDT elbowdrop elbowsmash front facelock hammerlock headlock takedown headsmash into the turnbuckle hiptoss inside cradle kick to the midsection punch / series of punches / series of jabs shoulderblock slap sleeperhold rear chinlock side headlock snap mare stomp / series of stomps vertical suplex wristlock In addition to the "everybody" moves, certain subsets of wrestlers also have some generic moves... ALMOST EVERYONE (excepting larger wrestlers) armdrag takedown dropkick HEELS boot choke (for larger heels) chokehold choke against the ropes eye poke / eye gouge / thumb to the eye face rake low blow BRAWLERS roundhouse right LARGER GUYS / POWERHOUSES powerslam Gorilla Press headbutt MARTIAL ARTISTS roundhouse kick spin kick WRESTLERS & SHOOTERS belly to belly suplex SHOOTERS guillotine choke LUCHADORES (most of em at least) spinning backbreaker (instead of a regular backbreaker) armdrag spinning headscissors |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 09/17/07 at 16:05:54On 08/15/04 at 18:09:53, DragonShirasaya wrote:An armwringer is when you grab the oppone;ts arm and twist it over your head, pulling down. Jake the Snake used to do a series of these in a row and then would elbow the opponent's arm. Booker T does an armwringer into a back heel kick. Just to give you an exact idea of what it is...As a point of further clarification, a hammerlock is what cops frequently use to subdue suspects when they grab a guy's arm and hold it behind said guy's back. It's pretty much used as a resthold even though its one of the more a legit moves in wrestling. FWIW, I would file arm wringer under wristlock. |
| Jake | Posted on 09/17/07 at 16:27:27 Yeah, I had intended to break down the list one day. But, dammit, my lazitess just kicked in. |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/18/07 at 17:58:41 you added enzuigiri? A lot of wrestlers have done it, unless it's someone the size of Andre or Big Show. hiptoss is another move I can think of that just about everybody has done. Here's more (some may already be on the list) Back Suplex Belly-To-Back Suplex headlock takedown various roll up techniques (school boy, inside cradle, small package, sunset flip, backslide, crucifix (basic version)), power bomb, spanking (for stupid WWE diva matches), faceslam (basic faceslam version), flapjack, kneelift, kneedrop, jawbreaker (basic version), inverted atomic drop, basic submission moves (Boston crab, stepover toe hold, side headlock, armbar subission, sleeperhold, full nelson), powerslam, Samoan drop, flying cross bodypress, flying shoulderblock, top-rope clothesline. Are the go-behind and the standing switch the same thing? |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/18/07 at 18:02:17On 09/17/07 at 16:05:54, LillaThrilla wrote:Actually, wouldn't an arm wringer be more like a move that you would just pull the arm (cannot be a submission move like a wristlock)? |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 09/18/07 at 20:47:22On 09/18/07 at 17:58:41, Mr. Ken Kennedy wrote:Here's more (some may already be on the list)Same move! On 09/18/07 at 17:58:41, Mr. Ken Kennedy wrote:headlock takedownschool boy = inside cradle On 09/18/07 at 17:58:41, Mr. Ken Kennedy wrote:power bomb, spanking (for stupid WWE diva matches), faceslam (basic faceslam version), flapjack, kneelift, kneedrop, jawbreaker (basic version), inverted atomic drop, basic submission moves (Boston crab, stepover toe hold, side headlock, armbar subission, sleeperhold, full nelson), powerslam, Samoan drop, flying cross bodypress, flying shoulderblock, top-rope clothesline.STF and full nelson as basic moves? I very much question that, especially the former. I think you're being way too liberal in your idea of "basic moves". On 09/18/07 at 17:58:41, Mr. Ken Kennedy wrote:Are the go-behind and the standing switch the same thing?Yes, but it should never be in a wrestler's move set - it's just a counter move! |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/19/07 at 18:36:52 I thought with a back suplex you stand side-by-side by the person you are applying it to and a belly-to-back you stand slightly behind? I could be wrong, but essentially they are the same move. As for the full nelson: I really meant for older wrstlers. A lot of Old School wrestlers have used it at some point in their careers even it it was not in their usual movesets. Are the STF and The STFU different? According to Wikipedia the STFU is a stepover toehold sleeper while the STF is a stepover toehold facelock. By the way I said stepover toehold, not STF (a stepover toehold without the facelock was what I was referring to) |
| C-R-P-L-S | Posted on 09/21/07 at 05:04:27 An inside cradle is a small package, not a schoolboy. |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 09/21/07 at 15:54:52On 09/21/07 at 05:04:27, C-R-P-L-S wrote:An inside cradle is a small package, not a schoolboy.I wish people would make up their gol danged minds about this... |
| Mr. Ken Kennedy | Posted on 09/21/07 at 17:14:43 According to the big book of wrestling moves site, the small package and inside cradle are different moves. |
| King_Of_Old_School | Posted on 09/21/07 at 17:47:18 Inside cradle IS a schoolboy (at least in TNM 7 anyway), Oliver has confirmed this for me. |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 09/21/07 at 22:09:48On 09/21/07 at 17:47:18, King_Of_Old_School wrote:Inside cradle IS a schoolboy (at least in TNM 7 anyway), Oliver has confirmed this for me.RETURN OF THE KING!!! |
| C-R-P-L-S | Posted on 09/22/07 at 04:44:24 I actually thought about that after I posted it--I remember Oliver telling me the same thing once. TNM so silly. |