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lazy_duck	Posted on 08/27/06 at 02:59:04 Any old school wrestling fans be interested in starting a NWA type fed with territories and floating world champions? Thinking the more the better but 4 to 6 should be good to start. Just floating the idea to see if there was any intrest LD
TheWave	Posted on 08/31/06 at 04:28:16 On 08/27/06 at 02:59:04, lazy_duck wrote:Any old school wrestling fans be interested in starting a NWA type fed with territories and floating world champions? Thinking the more the better but 4 to 6 should be good to start. Just floating the idea to see if there was any intrest LD Yeah, I'd be up for that.
meetzorak	Posted on 08/31/06 at 05:23:24 DEFF, I call north carolina.
Magister369	Posted on 09/05/06 at 16:06:52 I think it would be cool, i would want Championship Wrestling from Florida=CWF love the old florida territory.
HallNash	Posted on 09/05/06 at 21:30:29 add me to the mix would love the Northeast area...NY/PA/NJ etc. HallNash@aol.com
TheWave	Posted on 09/05/06 at 21:40:16 If we're staking claims, I request World Class Championship Wrestling in Texas.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/06/06 at 07:38:55 Not sure if were picking territories yet, we need to confirm who is all in set up rules and guidelins and such
meetzorak	Posted on 09/06/06 at 14:17:03 Still in
TheWave	Posted on 09/06/06 at 20:33:59 Me too.
Magister369	Posted on 09/06/06 at 21:28:59 Also to be determined, how far back are the old school edits are we going to use, i have lots from the 70's and 80's. I would be happy to e-mail my old school edits, i would think they would need some tweeking, under what ever guidlines that we come up with.
TheWave	Posted on 09/07/06 at 17:24:39 By my count, there are 5 of us total who have posted and expressed interest in this forum. Haven't done one of these before with other TNM players. How does it typically work? Do we draft wrestlers? I assume each of us runs our own circuit on our own TNM, rather than one person running all of them?
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/07/06 at 17:46:38 Everyone would need the same set of exports as well. I don't think I've seen a TNM alliance of circuits using strictly old school wrestlers before. It should be interesting, but you definitely need certain rules in place. You should start by referencing the NWA rules on Josh Liller's website under the rulesets.
Magister369	Posted on 09/08/06 at 03:08:52 I just read the NWA rules,and i think they are perfect for what we want to do. some ideas i thought of: 1. determine a pool of wrestlers so we all have the same set 2. assign the territories to each member 3. draft wrestlers for each territory 4. decide which world titles we should use 5. instead of going through a long process of tournaments vote on and assign the first world title holders. 6. decide how many cards you want to post per territory example: 2 cards per week is good for me ( hey i gotta work LOL!!!) 7. each member should run their territory as they see fit: Determine local titles, card writeups, angles, the only thing that should be decided as a group would be world title changes. 8. talent exchanges are good as long as the members doing the exchange agree upon them. if anyone has more to add or ideas please post them, these are just some general things i thought of off the top of my head
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/08/06 at 04:38:28 World title matches I believe should be unbooked. local territories can do what ever. That is one reason why a commen set of wrestlers will be important
The Phantom	Posted on 09/08/06 at 04:44:03 If you are looking for another, look no further. It would be fun to do this.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/08/06 at 04:52:02 On 09/08/06 at 03:08:52, Magister369 wrote:I just read the NWA rules,and i think they are perfect for what we want to do. some ideas i thought of: 1. determine a pool of wrestlers so we all have the same set 2. assign the territories to each member 3. draft wrestlers for each territory 4. decide which world titles we should use 5. instead of going through a long process of tournaments vote on and assign the first world title holders. 6. decide how many cards you want to post per territory example: 2 cards per week is good for me ( hey i gotta work LOL!!!) 7. each member should run their territory as they see fit: Determine local titles, card writeups, angles, the only thing that should be decided as a group would be world title changes. 8. talent exchanges are good as long as the members doing the exchange agree upon them. if anyone has more to add or ideas please post them, these are just some general things i thought of off the top of my head Abby and Brusier Brody should be constant journeymen
Magister369	Posted on 09/08/06 at 21:07:09 OK so the first thing is who all are involved in the project lets headcount: Magister369-me lazy_duck meetzorak HallNash TheWave The Phantom HugeRockStar760-do u want to sign up? so far we have 6-7 members, which is a good start we have enough members to cover the main territories Territories: Championship wrestling from Florida-CWF Mid-Atlantic Championship/JCP wrestling-MACW Mid-South championship Wrestling-MSCW Georgia Championship Wrestling-GCW World Class Championship Wrestling-WCCW Southeastern championship Wrestling-SECW Southwestern championship Wrestling-SWCW Pacific Northwest championship Wrestling-PNW Central States Championship Wrestling-CS Im sure there are others, but these are the main ones 'during the 70's and 80's if any others come to mind post them, but i think these should work for a start.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/10/06 at 07:49:07 I like those territories to start, For NWA Titles Im suggesting: NWA World Heavyweight Title NWA World Junior Heavyweight Title NWA World Tag Team Title NWA United States Heavyweight Title NWA United States Tag Team Titles
Pulsar	Posted on 09/10/06 at 15:56:07 I'm not joining, but just wanted to give an opinion. I think touring titles would work well as: NWA Heavyweight NWA Tag Team NWA Cruiserweight NWA Women's If you wanted to add a 5th., NWA Hardcore, but that's not very old-school
Magister369	Posted on 09/10/06 at 21:46:40 historically the only real traveling title was the NWA world heavyweight championship, the world tag titles were based mostly in the Mid-atlantic, as well as the United States title. there were hardcore style titles, but they were called Brass Knuckles titles. and there were no cruiserweight titles, they were always called Jr. heavyweight titles. IMO there should only be 3 traveling titles: NWA world heavyweight championship NWA world tag team championship NWA world Jr. heavyweight championship(between 225-230 weight limit) all other title should be regional titles even if the are called "world" example NWA world 6 man tag, which was based in WCCW. I think to limit the number of traveling titles, makes it easier to manage that way. besides you can have as many regional titles as you want. WCCW had 6 or 7 active titles at one time.
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/10/06 at 23:34:24 I'll sign up, but who has which territories? Also, need to have a stable, and uniform export in place. If anyone ever comes across another export of a wrestler or creates one for another 80s wrestler, that will need to be sent to every member of the NWA Territory system as well. Another thing, what is the time period for running this? Establish a certain year and go forward from there. Also, how will running cards take place? Will it be week by week, or similar to how GCW and GLCW do it where they just release cards when they are finish and proceed rapidly through the year?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/11/06 at 04:12:02 As far as titles go i think there should be 4 World Heavyweight US World JR. Heavyweight Tag Team also i dont care what fed i get but id perfer Mid-south or Southeast.
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 14:57:44 the four titles sound good so we have: NWA World Heavyweight championship NWA World Tag team championship NWA United States Heavyweight championship NWA World Jr. Heavyweight Championship As far as cards are concerned i would say a week by week would be good, i planned on doing 2 house shows and 1 tv show per week, but i think its should be up to the member, run as little or as many as u want. thats why these projects fall apart after the first month or so, because members loose interest, or the pressure to have so many cards per week makes you walk away this should be fun above all else. I have approx 400 old school edits, so let me know and i will be happy to share them with everybody, they prob need some tweeking so they can be balanced. If anyone else has some to share then lets do it. also if i am missing some edits let me know, i will post the ones i have. As far as territories are concerned lets get started: Magister369-Championship Wrestling From Florida lazy_duck meetzorak-Mid-South HallNash TheWave The Phantom HugeRockStar760 Anyone else have any preferences? lets post them.
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 15:03:52 these are the edits i have: Abdullah The Butcher Adrian Adonis Afa Al Perez Andre the Giant Angel of Death Angelo Mosca Angelo Mosca Jr. Animal Antonio Inoki Arn Anderson Assassin #1 Assassin #2 Atsushi Onita B. Brian Blair Bad News Brown Bam Bam Bigelow Baron Von Raschke Barry Horowitz Barry Windham Big Black Dog Big Bubba Rogers Big John Studd Bill Dundee Bill Irwin Bill Watts Billy Graham Billy Jack Haynes Billy Robinson Billy White Wolf Black Bart Black Tiger Blackjack Lanza Blackjack Mulligan Bob Armstrong Bob Backlund Bob Ellis Bob Orton Jr. Bob Roop Bobby Duncum Bobby Duncum Jr. Bobby Eaton Bobby Fulton Bobby Heenan Bobby Jaggers Bobo Brazil Bolo Mongol Boris Zhukov Brad Armstrong Brad Rheingans Brian Adias Brian Armstrong Bruce Hart Bruiser Brody Bruno Sammartino Buck Zumhoff Buddy Landell Buddy Roberts Buddy Rogers Buddy Rose Bugsy McGraw Bulldog Bob Brown Jr. Bunkhouse Buck Butch Miller Butch Reed Butcher Vachon Buzz Sawyer Buzz Tyler Cactus Jack Canek Carl Malenko Carlos Colon Carlos Colon Charlie Cook Charlie Norris Chavo Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jr. Chris Adams Chris Benoit Chris Youngblood Cien Caras Col. DeBeers Colonel DeBeers Conquistador #1 Conquistador #2 Corporal Kirchner Cpl. Kirchner Crusher Blackwell Curt Hennig Cyclon Negro Dale Wolfe Dan Kroffat Dan Spivey Davey Boy Smith David Sammartino David Von Erich Dennis Condrey Denny Brown Dick Brower Dick Slater Dick the Bruiser Dino Bravo Dirty White Boy Don Kernodle Don Muraco Dory Funk Jr. Dos Caras Doug Furnas Doug Gilbert Doug Vines Dr. Jerry Graham Duke Myers Dustin Runnels Dusty Rhodes Dutch Mantel Dynamite Kid Earthquake
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 15:07:35 edits part two: Eddie Gilbert Eddie Graham Eddie Guerrero Edouard Carpentier El Gigante El Hijo Del Santo El Santo Eli the Eliminator Elijah Akeem Eric Embry Ernie Ladd Fatu Freddie Blassie Fritz Von Erich Gary Albright Gary Hart Gary Hart Gene Anderson General Adnan General Skandor Akbar Genichiro Tenryu George Steele George Wells Geto Mongol Giant Baba Giant Haystacks Giant Kimala II Gino Hernandez Gorgeous George Gran Hamada Great Kabuki Great Kojika Great Muta Greg Gagne Greg Valentine Harley Race Haruka Eigen Hawk Hector Guerrero Hercules Hiro Matsuda Hiro Saito Hong Kong Lee Honky Tonk Man Iceman King Parsons Invader #1 Invader #2 Invader #3 Invader #4 Iron Mike Sharpe Iron Sheik Ivan Koloff Ivan Putski J. J. Dillon Jack Brisco Jack Victory Jacques Rougeau Jake Roberts Jason the Terrible Jay Briscoe Jay Strongbow Jay Youngblood Jeff Gaylord Jerry Brisco Jerry Lawler Jerry Stubbs Jesse Ventura Jim Brunzell Jim Cornette Jim Duggan Jim Neidhart Jim Powers Jim Powers Jimmy Garvin Jimmy Golden Jimmy Jack Funk Jimmy Snuka Jimmy Valiant Joel Deaton John Nord John Tatum Johnny Ace Johnny Mantell Johnny Rich Johnny Smith Johnny Valentine Johnny Valiant Johnny Weaver Jos LeDuc Jose Estrada Jose Lothario Jumbo Tsuruta Junk Yard Dog Kamala Kareem Muhammed Kato Kung Lee Kato Kung Lee Jr. Keiji Muto Keith Hart Keith Larson Ken Lucas Ken Mantell Ken Patera Kendall Windham Kendo Nagasaki Kengo Kimura Kerry Brown Kerry Von Erich
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 15:10:51 Edits part three: Kevin Sullivan Kevin Von Erich Killer Brooks Killer Khan Killer Kowalski Kim Duk King Kong Bundy Koko B. Ware Kuniaki Kobayashi Lance Diamond Larry Cameron Larry Zbyszko Leo Burke Leo Burke Leroy Bryce Les Thorton Lex Luger Lou Thesz Lt. James Earl Luke Williams Maddog Vachon Magnum T.A. Makhan Singh Manager Mando Guerrero Manny Fernandez Mark Fleming Mark Lewin Mark Starr Mark Youngblood Marty Jannetty Masa Fuchi Masa Saito Masahiro Chono Masanobu Fuchi Masao Inoue Masked Superstar Masked Superstar II Matt Borne Michael Hayes Michael Wallstreet Miguel Perez Jr. Mike Enos Mike Graham Mike Rotundo Mike Sharpe Mike Von Erich Mil Mascaras Mongolian Stomper Moondog Cujo Moondog Manson Moondog Mayne Moondog Rex Moondog Spike Moondog Spot Mr. Florida Mr. Fuji Mr. Hughes Mr. Olympia Mr. Saito Mr. Wrestling Mr. Wrestling II Negro Casas Nick Bockwinkle Nikita Koloff Nikolai Volkoff Norio Honaga Norvell Austin Ole Anderson Omar Atlas One Man Gang Otto Schwanz Owen Hart Ox Baker Pat Patterson Pat Tanaka Paul Diamond Paul Jones Paul Orndorff Pedro Morales Perro Aguayo Pez Whatley Playboy Buddy Rose Porkchop Cash Rambling Wreck Randy Rose Randy Savage Randy Tyler Ray Brooks Ray Gonzalez
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 15:13:59 Edits part four Ray Stevens Raymond Rougeau Red Tyler Rex King Ric Flair Rick Fuller Rick Martel Rick Rude Rick Steamboat Rick Steiner Ricky Morton Ricky Santana Riki Choshu Rip Hawk Rip Rogers Robert Fuller Robert Gibson Rocky Johnson Rocky Santana Rod Price Roddy Piper Ron Bass Ron Fuller Ron Garvin Ron Starr Rufus R. Jones Rusher Kimura Ryuma Go S.D. Jones Salvatore Bellomo Sam Houston Samu Savannah Jack Scott Casey Scott Irwin Scott Norton Scott Putski Scott Steiner Sgt. Buddy Lee Parker Sgt. Slaughter Shane Douglas Sid Vicious Sika Skip Young Stan Hansen Stan Lane Stan Stasiak Steve Armstrong Steve Keirn Steve Williams Steven Dunn Sting Stu Hart Super Destroyer Sweet Brown Sugar Taras Bulba Tatsumi Fujinami Ted Arcidi Ted DiBiase Teijo Kahn Terry Funk Terry Gordy Terry Taylor The Barbarian The Crusher The Cuban Assassin The Genius The Grappler I The Grappler II
Magister369	Posted on 09/11/06 at 15:17:09 Edits part five The Great Muta The Italian Stallion The Mighty Igor The Missing Link The Nightmare The Patriot The Sheik The Spellbinder The Spoiler The Spoiler II Thunderbolt Patterson Tiger Conway Jr. Tiger Jackson Tiger Jeet Singh Tiger Mask Tiger Mask II Tim Horner Tim Woods Tito Santana Tom Brandi Tom Prichard Tommy Rich Tommy Rogers Tony Anthony Tony Atlas Tor Kamata Tracey Smothers Tully Blanchard Typhoon Verne Gagne Viet Cong Express #1 Viet Cong Express #2 Vladimir Koloff Wahoo McDaniel Warlord Wendell Cooley If i have missed anyone let me know and we can make them, as i have said they prob need some tweeking, let me know and i will e-mail them to you.
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/11/06 at 22:08:33 Another question, will there be a draft or are we just using the wrestlers that were historically in one region? If there is a draft, I think each region should already have one franchise type of wrestler. For instance, Jim Crockett Promotion would have Ric Flair, Championship Wrestling from Florida would have Dusty Rhodes, etc.
TheWave	Posted on 09/11/06 at 23:24:38 I'm glad to see this idea is taking off and taking form. A lot of good questions and ideas have come up. This is my first time doing TNM interactively with others, so I still have lots of questions myself, and replies to other comments: 1. Is one of us going to be the commissioner on this project, to keep things in order and make final decisions when we don't come to a true consensus? I think it might be a good idea. Lazy Duck started this thread, so I assumed he might be in charge, but I don't know if he wants that or not. 2. Is one of us going to run a 'core' NWA promotion, one that will be considered more national or even worldwide, and which circuit would 'own' or maintain the primary NWA titles - akin to Jim Crockett's NWA World Championship Wrestling? Or will each of us truly have just a regional territory, with the travelling NWA titles being owned by the entire network? 3. There's been lots of discussion about which NWA titles to use. Are we saying, though, that those titles are the ones that can be defended throughout the NWA, against contenders from any of the territories? If so, I agree with Magister 369, only a few titles should actually travel around, and I like the list he came up with. I don't think the U.S. title should be one of the floating/travelling ones though. It's fine to have that belt, but it should belong to just one of the territories. What is good about Magister 369's list is that each title represents some type of division or class: Heavyweight singles; tag team; and jr. heavyweight. The U.S. title was never really for any different type of division, it was just different in prestige (secondary singles title to the World title). 4. I think we need to determine whether we are setting this in a general era (such as 70s + 80s; or just 80s; or something else). Or whether we want to pick a particular year or date and start at that point. 4b. Will any wrestlers outside of our chosen time frame (either older or newer wrestlers) be strictly off limits? Will later real-life wrestlers somehow come into play as rookies? 5. Will wrestlers compete exclusively in each territory? In real life, a number of wrestlers worked for two or more territories at the same time; or like Bruiser Brody did matches here and there without staying in one place too long. But if we allow too much sharing of talent, it might get chaotic and unrealistic. If we do allow sharing, there should be some limitations. 6. I think at some point we would need to draft wrestlers - or even draft territories, with some wrestlers automatically included in those territories. There are too many good wrestlers who moved around a lot and cannot be associated with one single territory, so I don't think it'd be fair for someone to stake a claim to a territory (without a territory draft) and then to have exclusive rights to all the guys that worked there. 7. Will our rosters have a limited size? In real life, I believe many territories (if not all) always operated with a set roster size; if one wrestler left, they would get someone else to replace him. I think it would be good for us to decide on some number (30? 40?) which would be our max number of wrestlers per territory. 8. I assume we each will run our territory on our own TNM, correct? Will we be using standard circuit mode, where you have to hire wrestlers and they can turn you down or give notice, or 'email' mode? If standard circuit mode, do we just use the honor system to report who works for the circuit, who leaves, who re-signs and who doesn't, etc.? 8b. Also, if we hire wrestlers to limited contract terms, will there be rules or guidelines on how many cards? Most territories only had a few franchise guys that stayed there for real long periods of time; there was lots of rotation. So with no hiring guidelines, hiring all my wrestlers to 52-card contracts would be kind of unrealistic, especially if I had them all exclusively. 9. Are the WWF and AWA completely left out here? I assume so based on comments so far. Would we want to make those as regional territories, though (as both evolved from regional NWA territories before they broke off from the NWA and went independent in the 1960s)? For instance, WWF as a New England/New York territory, and AWA as a Minnesota/midwest territory? 9b. Also, I don't know much about Missouri as an NWA territory, but the Missouri Championship seemed like a prestigious regional title during the early and mid-1980s, for some reason (I've never understood why). 9c. Another major territory not mentioned so far (that I saw) is Memphis, which Wrestling-Titles.com says was part of the NWA until 1986. Could also do the Puerto Rico-based WWC; or Polynesian Pacific. 9d. Southeastern Championship Wrestling, that Magister 369 mentioned, is that the same as Southeast Continental Wrestling (out of Alabama, I believe)? All I have so far,
Magister369	Posted on 09/12/06 at 00:07:00 I think a draft is a great idea, maybe one francise wrestler per territory or a main face and a main heel per territory what do you think?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/12/06 at 00:36:18 I guess I'll Take Hansen as my Heel and im drawing a blank for my Face Probaly Dory Funk
Magister369	Posted on 09/12/06 at 00:48:47 1. Is one of us going to be the commissioner on this project, to keep things in order and make final decisions when we don't come to a true consensus? I think it might be a good idea. Lazy Duck started this thread, so I assumed he might be in charge, but I don't know if he wants that or not. I think since Lazy duck started the whole idea he should be the commish, he can make the final decision incase of a member deadlock. 2. Is one of us going to run a 'core' NWA promotion, one that will be considered more national or even worldwide, and which circuit would 'own' or maintain the primary NWA titles - akin to Jim Crockett's NWA World Championship Wrestling? Or will each of us truly have just a regional territory, with the travelling NWA titles being owned by the entire network? I think to get the true feel of the territory system, each promotion should be on a regional level with no promotion over the other, on a national level. 4. I think we need to determine whether we are setting this in a general era (such as 70s + 80s; or just 80s; or something else). Or whether we want to pick a particular year or date and start at that point. I think at least 78 0r 79 would be a good start. the territories wre going strong at this time, what do you guys think? 4b. Will any wrestlers outside of our chosen time frame (either older or newer wrestlers) be strictly off limits? Will later real-life wrestlers somehow come into play as rookies? Rookies are a great idea, to use a up and coming future star is cool, On the other hand i would not really want to see a SC steve Austin or a Rock working in the territories, not realistic i think. 5. Will wrestlers compete exclusively in each territory? In real life, a number of wrestlers worked for two or more territories at the same time; or like Bruiser Brody did matches here and there without staying in one place too long. But if we allow too much sharing of talent, it might get chaotic and unrealistic. If we do allow sharing, there should be some limitations. To keep things from getting crazy i think as long as the owner of the wrestler lones him out for a certain amount of cards to another owner its cool. but you have to keep a strict control over that, also one wrestler per card or event is cool, i cant see having for example Bruiser Brody working both WCCW and MACW on the same dates, too much confusion. 6. I think at some point we would need to draft wrestlers - or even draft territories, with some wrestlers automatically included in those territories. There are too many good wrestlers who moved around a lot and cannot be associated with one single territory, so I don't think it'd be fair for someone to stake a claim to a territory (without a territory draft) and then to have exclusive rights to all the guys that worked there. sounds good, how should we go about drafting? everyone ask for the territory they want, then have the commisioner make the final decision? or by committee? what ever is good for you guys is good for me. 7. Will our rosters have a limited size? In real life, I believe many territories (if not all) always operated with a set roster size; if one wrestler left, they would get someone else to replace him. I think it would be good for us to decide on some number (30? 40?) which would be our max number of wrestlers per territory. A limited size is a good idea, we should keep it as balanced as possible, 30 is a good start, i think we have enough wrestlers to go around, with plenty of free agents to fill out our rosters after we draft who we want. 8. I assume we each will run our territory on our own TNM, correct? Will we be using standard circuit mode, where you have to hire wrestlers and they can turn you down or give notice, or 'email' mode? If standard circuit mode, do we just use the honor system to report who works for the circuit, who leaves, who re-signs and who doesn't, etc.? The honor system sounds good, if there are any disputes the commisioners decision should be final. 8b. Also, if we hire wrestlers to limited contract terms, will there be rules or guidelines on how many cards? Most territories only had a few franchise guys that stayed there for real long periods of time; there was lots of rotation. So with no hiring guidelines, hiring all my wrestlers to 52-card contracts would be kind of unrealistic, especially if I had them all exclusively. How about this: Francise wrestlers are hired for a year and mid-cards for 6 months, and lower card/openers for 3 months or some system like that, what do you think? 9. Are the WWF and AWA completely left out here? I assume so based on comments so far. Would we want to make those as regional territories, though (as both evolved from regional NWA territories before they broke off from the NWA and went independent in the 1960s)? For instance, WWF as a New England/New York territory, and AWA as a Minnesota/midwest territory? If we do use the WWF/AWA i would think they would be used after all the real NWA territories are assigned first of course if someone wants them right off the bat then ok, but the WWF and AWA titles should be regional not world status. 9b. Also, I don't know much about Missouri as an NWA territory, but the Missouri Championship seemed like a prestigious regional title during the early and mid-1980s, for some reason (I've never understood why). The missouri title was associated with the Central states territory ,and Sam Muchnick promotion in St. Louis, so because Muchnick was a big influential promoter the Missouri title was concidered the stepping stone to the NWA World Title. 9c. Another major territory not mentioned so far (that I saw) is Memphis, which Wrestling-Titles.com says was part of the NWA until 1986. Could also do the Puerto Rico-based WWC; or Polynesian Pacific. I always though Memphis was more associated with the AWA than the NWA. but if someone wants to use it then lets add it. 9d. Southeastern Championship Wrestling, that Magister 369 mentioned, is that the same as Southeast Continental Wrestling (out of Alabama, I believe)? Yes it is, owned by the Fuller brothers BTW i dont mean to be the take charge guy but this is the first time someone has brought up a old school NWA based TMN group promotion, since i am a huge fan of the era i want to see this get off the ground and work. I will now sit down and shut the hell up LOL!!!!
The Phantom	Posted on 09/12/06 at 08:12:24 I like the draft idea but I also like the idea of having one heel and one face to start out with. Maybe the draft can be the first two picks have to be 1 heel and 1 face and then you can choose who you like after that. I wasn't really aware of the NWA when I was growing up so I won't stake my claim to a territory but I will research it when we decide who gets what. I think there should be only 3 floating titles. Can anyone explain to me how they were floating without being in one region? Did they stay in a region for a certain amount of time or was if it someone in that region won them they stay there until someone from another region wins them? I get the idea but don't understand how it worked. I would probably only have 2 cards a week with one being a house show and the other the tv show. Each owner should do it the way they like though so people don't get burned out. Do we have PPV type cards with all territories particapting? How would we do that? I'm not a fan of the hiring mode. I say once we have our draft or whatever, we just import who we will use and import others as needed. Then we can loan our people or exchange them if the two sides agree. If we had our own forum on here, then maybe a sticky thread for this topic would be best to keep track of things. The 2 owners pm each other first and then post it in the thread once it is agreed upon. I'm just throwing out ideas here. Can we get a forum here or a webpage somewhere? If we do the webpage thing then I could host it unless someone has a better place. This should be cool once we agree to the rules.
Magister369	Posted on 09/12/06 at 13:36:16 I think there should be only 3 floating titles. Can anyone explain to me how they were floating without being in one region? Did they stay in a region for a certain amount of time or was if it someone in that region won them they stay there until someone from another region wins them? I get the idea but don't understand how it worked. there would be a schedule set up by the NWA board of directors=promoters, who would set up a list of wrestlers that the world champion would defend his title against. the champ would stay in the territory for a week or so at a time and defend the belt , then move on to the next territory, also if the promoter would have a big spectacular PPV type show, it would be headlined by the world champion. If the champion lost his title, the new champion would take over the defence schedual, sometimes a rematch was signed right away sometimes not. I would probably only have 2 cards a week with one being a house show and the other the tv show. Each owner should do it the way they like though so people don't get burned out. Do we have PPV type cards with all territories particapting? How would we do that? We could take turns running PPV style cards, they didnt have alot of those in the old school days. promotiuons ran big spectacular cards maybe twice a year, around holidays. every two or three months we could run a big card with guest workers from other promotions, with the world titles defended at them.
TheWave	Posted on 09/12/06 at 23:52:13 On 09/12/06 at 13:36:16, Magister369 wrote:I would probably only have 2 cards a week with one being a house show and the other the tv show. Each owner should do it the way they like though so people don't get burned out. Do we have PPV type cards with all territories particapting? How would we do that? We could take turns running PPV style cards, they didnt have alot of those in the old school days. promotiuons ran big spectacular cards maybe twice a year, around holidays. every two or three months we could run a big card with guest workers from other promotions, with the world titles defended at them. It would be cool to do the Crockett Cup Tag Team Tournament (could call it something else), with teams from all the different territories.
Magister369	Posted on 09/13/06 at 00:23:23 Things to do to get started: 1. Nominate a commishoner 2. draft territorys 3. draft wrestlers 4. appoint the first world title holders. Is this good for everyone? BTW does anyone else want a copy of my edits? let me know and i will e-mail them to you.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/13/06 at 01:23:56 Magister369, go ahead and send me the edits. vphank at yahoo dot com 1. I nominate lazy_duck unless he doesn't want it. Then I would nominate Magister.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/13/06 at 02:11:21 Cant wait to start a few things 1. do you have those edits in an export file? 2. Mid south is mine, irght? 3. How do you go about running a wrestler draft any how.
Rick Garrard	Posted on 09/13/06 at 02:15:23 3. How do you go about running a wrestler draft any how. Please don't run a draft like our longtime, close, personal friends, JimiC and Jerito.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/13/06 at 05:00:54 HEy guys great ideas being floted around and I would be honored to be commish if noone has a issue with it. I was going over the NWA ruleset just to see who it would work for us and I have some ideas so if you would indulge me for a sec I would list them and get some feed back on it. TITLES The only World titles recognized as such will be those sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance. Those titles at present include the World heavyweight, World Light-heavyweight (235 pounds and under), World Tag Team and World Television titles. Any contender as judged by the NWA can win these titles and defend them over the world. 3 titles NWA World Heaveyweight NWA World Junior Heaveyweight NWA World Tag Team A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation. I think this is good. Once we crown our first champions then we can set a schedule for them. Speaking of...I was thinking maybe hold a tourney after the 1st month to seat champions, maybe top 5 from each fed sent challenge for the titles? our will we just pick someone and declair them champ? All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. I like this let the champ win on it's own no booking, all world title matches 60 minutes. I read in some other rules they even banned Managers but i think thats a call will have to make. If any wrestler defeats an NWA main or secondary champion, that wrestler must then continue the former champion's schedule of title defenses, including those out of his region and rematches with the former champion. Already discussed If an NWA titlist wrestles in any member promotion, then a play-by-play of the match must be submitted to the NWA president for inspection, regardless of a title change or not. Match conduct may be used to set up pay-per-view or television matches. I like this rule as well WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. I like the 52 card sign for "franchise" people and maybe 36 upercards 24 for mid and 12 for openers. It will take some work to keep track of contracts but I think this will open up talent maybe going to other permotions and such.. this will probably need more discussion. OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. 25 to 30 should be enough to get storylines going and + with NWA members comming through tere should be more then enough to get by. Upon determining a roster of competitors, each member organization must submit that roster to the NWA president so it is known by the main office who is wrestling where. Official free agents will be announced to all member organizations. NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. I like this also. I believe is someone no show durring a title defence, the top 2 ranked in that territory would battle for the belt and resume the schedule. I may be wrong so if so please correct me on that. PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. If a promoter wants a wrestler to be scouted at the home territory, then he must request a match on NWA TV. In most cases, the promoter will be given up to three NWA wrestlers from the home promotion for their competitor to face, and the member promotion must then decide who to send their man into a match with. Member promotions may hold their own PPV cards, but must be held in their own territories and cannot conflict with the date of any NWA PPV. For the card to be sanctioned by the NWA, the entire card, upon completion, must be submitted to the NWA. After the card, any title changes must be sent to the NWA president so that complete title histories may be kept by the NWA. It will always be assumed with few exceptions that all member TV and/or PPV events are operating under the sanctioning of the NWA and its front office. Ok Each promotion can run what they want I believe as long as it does not interfear in the NWA major cars ie PPV or TV shows. That mean someone will probably have to run "THE NWA" along with their promotion and get with the other promoters a schedule the weekley TV shows if they belive their guys are ready for national attention. This could help push local storylines set up PPV angles and help move the World titles and such. Just an idea. WRESTLING SCHEDULES To keep a bearing on where and when all member's wrestling cards will be held, each member must submit a list of scheduled cards for any month prior to the first of that month. Please include date and place of the card, as well as any special cards or PPV events to be held during that month. The NWA president will review each schedule and make sure no cards conflict in date and/or location. If any card is essential to a promotion's storyline or advancement of a member of its current roster, then the card can be rescheduled for another date that isn't in conflict with another promoter, on a date close enough to allow whatever plans the promoter has to be fulfilled. This may be to much but to have a floating champion we need to make sure the champion isn't scheduled to be at 2 places at once so if there is a way to know who will be where it would clar up any scheduling conflicts. WRESTLER RATINGS AND RANKINGS The NWA will create a ratings list every four weeks, outlining champions and challengers to titles. These lists will include any wrestler ranked in the NWA main area, plus contenders from any member organization. For wrestlers in member organizations to be included in the regular NWA rankings list, each member must provide a list of their top ten wrestlers (including their champions in the number one spot) to the NWA President as close to the ratings period as possible. Titlists can be included in the ratings lists, as well as any contender underneath them, depending on their win-loss records, and match hot streaks. On the main NWA page we can keep track of whos ranked where and who is in line for what belts in all the different permotions. WEB SITES Any NWA promoter may open an official web site outlining their federations with news and other information. Along with their sites, they must include the official NWA seal, recognizing the promotion as an official NWA member promotion. The seal can be either logo at the top of this page. The seal must link to the main NWA site. Content of any web site is at the discretion of the promotions. A wb page isn't mandetory but it would make it all look cool :) E-MAIL The NWA President will create an official email address for both NWA personnel and members, as well as fans, to address issues within the NWA and make comments. This email address will be forwarded to each member so all promotions will have access to it. The NWA front office will monitor this address and any question or correspondence regarding a member promotion will be forwarded to that promotion. I can set up a quicky email address no problem and who ever hosts the official NWA site can post the address there. Again just some ideas I had going but the ruleset. I think what we need to get to make it look like things are moving foward is to first agree on the titles and move down the list so lets agree on the titles. NWA World Heavyweight NWA World Junior Heavyweight NWA World Tag Team (Maybe NWA World Television )
HallNash	Posted on 09/13/06 at 05:45:04 This is gonna be great.... I cant wait to start.....btw I would love those edits too.... HallNash@aol.com
Magister369	Posted on 09/13/06 at 07:30:24 i agree 3 traveling titles: NWA World Heavyweight NWA World Junior Heavyweight NWA World Tag Team
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/13/06 at 08:20:08 I will obstain unless there is a tie so sofar there is 1 for 0 against
meetzorak	Posted on 09/13/06 at 16:45:28 I enjoyed the 4 title set-up that just personal opinion everything else looks dandy.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/13/06 at 17:24:04 We will talk about each item in your list right lazy? I agree on the 3 titles.
TheWave	Posted on 09/13/06 at 22:03:05 I vote for those same 3 titles too (World Heavyweight, Tag Team, Jr. or Light Heavyweight). It's good to not have too many, especially since, back in the day, only the World title really toured throughout the territories. The NWA also used to have a rule that if the World Champion went 30 days without defending the title, he would be stripped. Not sure if this applied to all the belts, or just the World title. And if you really want to go old school, we could make all World title defenses best-of-3-falls.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/14/06 at 02:29:00 So far I have 3 for: World Heavyweight World Junior Heavyweight World Tag Team and 1 for: World Heavyweight World Juniorweight World Tag Team World TV Yes Phantom If we go down the list 1-1 we should have everything set and reasy to go. Get any details squared away and issues resolved.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/14/06 at 06:01:59 If it makes things go faster 3 titles are fine.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/14/06 at 06:16:32 4 votes are in out of 6 Belts voted on World Heavyweight World Junior Heavyweight World Tag Team Next: A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation How will we determin the 1st world champions? Appointment? Tournement?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/14/06 at 06:34:34 I think we should have a 4 dance between Flair, Dory Funk, Harley Race, and Dusty Rhodes. Those four would all make fine champs for the era they should deff be considered at least. Also we should have a tourney for the other 2 belts. Suggestions for Jr Heavy Tourney. Steamboat, Jay Youngblood, Great Kabuki, Terry Taylor, Rick Martel, Tito Santana, and Tom Prichard Suggestions for Tag Tourney. Road Warroirs, Freebirds, Midnight Express, Fantastics, Rock n Roll Express ETC ETC
Magister369	Posted on 09/14/06 at 13:38:38 I vote for a appointment of champions but if we go for the tournament way, at least make it a one night tournament with the top eight most eligable wrestlers or tag teams. you dont want to drag this process out.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/14/06 at 16:06:53 On 09/14/06 at 13:38:38, Magister369 wrote:I vote for a appointment of champions but if we go for the tournament way, at least make it a one night tournament with the top eight most eligable wrestlers or tag teams. you dont want to drag this process out. once again i agree with the majority.
TheWave	Posted on 09/14/06 at 17:43:16 Just would like to clarify: Are we going to have a separate, 'main'/'home' NWA promotion, which is nationwide, a la Jim Crockett's World Championship Wrestling? If so, is it going to be run with its own cards, angles, non-touring titles, feuds, etc.? Or are we all strictly running regional territories, with the touring champions being the only 'national' NWA wrestlers? The NWA ruleset seems to anticipate the former, a home promotion. If we do that, will one of us run that instead of a regional territory? And would wrestlers on that main NWA roster receive more World title shots and preference over the regional wrestlers? My personal preference is to have no separate, nationwide, home promotion; and just do regional territories. If we need to set up a TNM circuit for the sole purpose of defending the touring titles, that's different though. Sorry if I'm speaking out of turn, but what we're doing about this would affect my opinion of how to determine the first champions.
Magister369	Posted on 09/14/06 at 17:51:27 IMO a strictly regionals only fed is better than trying a large scale promotion, JCP/NWA didnt come out until the late 80's thats when JCP bought out most of the regionals, and the WWF expanded to nationwide status anytime before say 1987-88 it was regional territory system
Magister369	Posted on 09/14/06 at 21:37:23 i have a suggestion so we can get started faster, Lazy Duck please post up all the stuff we need to vote on and we can do it in one post, get it out of the way. then we can assign territories, then draft wrestlers, I would really like to get started on this soon. also if there are any changes needed to the edits i sent out please let me know, so we can all do them, also if anyone else needs edits let me know.
TheWave	Posted on 09/14/06 at 23:15:12 Yeah, please send me the edits too: the1stwave@yahoo.com Thanks!
The Phantom	Posted on 09/15/06 at 00:00:53 I say a tournament with the top 8 or if you want it quicker, then a mini battle royal for each belt.
megatron_85	Posted on 09/15/06 at 02:30:28 what happened to stampede wrestling? i thought it was part of NWA before WWF buys it
The Phantom	Posted on 09/15/06 at 03:02:47 On 09/15/06 at 02:30:28, megatron_85 wrote:what happened to sampede wrestling? i thought it was part of NWA before WWF buys it Look here, http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/promotions/stampede.html
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/16/06 at 04:29:41 On 09/14/06 at 21:37:23, Magister369 wrote:i have a suggestion so we can get started faster, Lazy Duck please post up all the stuff we need to vote on and we can do it in one post, get it out of the way. then we can assign territories, then draft wrestlers, I would really like to get started on this soon. also if there are any changes needed to the edits i sent out please let me know, so we can all do them, also if anyone else needs edits let me know. TITLES The only World titles recognized as such will be those sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance. Those titles at present include the World heavyweight, World Light-heavyweight (235 pounds and under), World Tag Team and World Television titles. Any contender as judged by the NWA can win these titles and defend them over the world. 3 titles NWA World Heaveyweight NWA World Junior Heaveyweight NWA World Tag Team Voted on 4-0 A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation. Apointed - 1 Tourney - 1 Undecided - 1 All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. Agreed Disagree WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. Contracts No Contracts If Contracts how long? OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. Size of roster 20 25 30 40 NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Agree Disagree PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. This goes to the question asked about a NWA promotion + regionals or all regionals, If no NWA promotion then I guess we can throw out this rule If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. Same as above Draft If a draft do each region get an automatic franchise perosn? If no draft Would each region just get the wrestlers that historicly worked that region?
Magister369	Posted on 09/16/06 at 07:20:15 TITLES The only World titles recognized as such will be those sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance. Those titles at present include the World heavyweight, World Light-heavyweight (235 pounds and under), World Tag Team and World Television titles. Any contender as judged by the NWA can win these titles and defend them over the world. 3 titles NWA World Heaveyweight NWA World Junior Heaveyweight NWA World Tag Team Voted on 4-0 A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation. Apointed - 1 Tourney - 1 Undecided - 1 All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. Agreed WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. No Contracts my point of view: i have thought about it and except for the francise babyface and francise heel per territory all other wrestlers should be no contracts, i figure we can keep a list of wresters/rosters per territory and even if we use 30-40 per roster we still have plenty of wrestlers left over as free agents. alot of wrestlers were in multiple feds simultaniously, so why complicate the issue. we could have contracts but then we all know how tempermental TNM can be, all i need to have happen is one of my workers quit or give notice in the middle of a angle i am running. i trhink as long as we can agree to not use each others wrestlers unless the territory owner agrees to the loan or trade, it should be all good. OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. Size of roster 30 NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Agree PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. This goes to the question asked about a NWA promotion + regionals or all regionals, If no NWA promotion then I guess we can throw out this rule I vote for a strictly territory system, no use making a national promotion as well as regionals, it takes the fun out of having traveling champions in the first place If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. I agree Same as above Draft If a draft do each region get an automatic franchise perosn? yes: you need to base your promotion on at least one top wrestler wether it be heel or babyface, we have enough top stars to go around both face and heel If no draft the same Would each region just get the wrestlers that historicly worked that region? No I dont think it matters which francise worker is assigned to which territory, i could put Mr. wrestling II into any promotion and make him my francise worker, you can build a promotion out of any top star, it dosnt make a difference IMO
meetzorak	Posted on 09/16/06 at 08:40:32 I agree with the guy above me.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/16/06 at 22:18:16 All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. Agreed WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. I say no contracts for the wrestlers we first get. The wrestlers left over are free agents and they should be on contracts. We can pick up their contract to use them in our fed but if someone wants to sign that person to their fed permanently, then it takes a vote by us if they should be allowed to sign there or not. Contract length for the free agents should be 10 to 15 cards. OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. 30 NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Agree PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. Only regional feds. But I do think there should be a joint PPV that moves between the feds as in no promotion gets a PPV 2 times in a row. If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. Agree. Draft If a draft do each region get an automatic franchise perosn? If no draft Would each region just get the wrestlers that historicly worked that region? I say do a draft and each gets an automatic franchise person.
TNM7	Posted on 09/17/06 at 03:49:26 I just found this thread... But I am interested in joining this NWA as well. Sam
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/17/06 at 10:58:03 Here's a list of territories, based on the color coded map that was used on the McMahon DVD: IWA - Eastern Canada - Johnny Rougeau Maple Leaf Wrestling - Toronto, Ontario, Canada - Frank Tunney NWF - Upstate New York - Pedro Martinez World Wide Wrestling Federation - New York, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Maine, Rhode Island - Vince McMahon Sr. Mid-Atlantic - West Virginia, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina - Jim Crockett Georgia - Jim Barnett Big Time Wrestling - Michigan, Northern Ohio - Ed Farhat Continental - Alabama, Eastern Tennessee, Eastern Kentucky - Ron Fuller ICW - Central Kentucky - Angelo Poffo Memphis - Central Tennessee - Jerry Jarrett Mid-America - Western Kentucky, Western Tennessee - Nick Gulas St. Louis - Southeastern Missouri - Sam Muchnick Mid-South - Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi - Bill Watts Central States - Kansas, Western Missouri, Iowa - Bob Geigel Amarillo - Dory Funk Sr. World Class - Northern Texas - Fritz Von Erich AWA - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Northern Illinois, Nebraska, Colorado, Southern Nevada Stampede - Central Canada - Stu Hart Pacific Northwest - Washington, Oregon - Don Owen San Francisco - Northern California - Roy Shire Hollywood Wrestling - Southern California - Lebells All-Star Wrestling - Western Canada - Al Tomko Florida - Eddie Graham I think that's it.
Magister369	Posted on 09/17/06 at 19:18:13 ok good, now that we have all that out of the way, how does everyone want to assign territorys? Lazy Duck any ideas?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/17/06 at 20:41:20 On 09/17/06 at 19:18:13, Magister369 wrote:ok good, now that we have all that out of the way, how does everyone want to assign territorys? Lazy Duck any ideas? I think there should be some sort of senority clause here and since i called mid-south or the carolinas and those pages back i should get one of them but... as a group i think we all should be able to do this in a civil matter so im happy with any thing i get.
Magister369	Posted on 09/18/06 at 13:56:03 Ok i want to stake a claim to Championship Wrestling from Florida-CWF
TheWave	Posted on 09/18/06 at 21:38:44 Before I cast my votes on some of the other decisions, wanted to throw out a question and a couple ideas about wrestler selection/drafting: Question: We talked earlier about agreeing on a set group of wrestlers to use. Have we decided that the extensive list posted by Magister is that list? Or are other wrestlers going to be considered? If that is the list, can we post any requested additions to the list, and have them added, unless there are any objections by the group to particular wrestler requests? Ideas: 1. In a wrestler draft, require each territory to first draft 3 (or 4) wrestlers (singles, tag, or both) that actually worked for that regional territory in real life. After that, you can draft anyone you want from our wrestler list and time era. (Could say require 1 or 2 instead of 3 or 4, I just like 3 or 4 because you can get at least 1 tag team plus at least 1 singles wrestler if you choose.) Or: 2. Ditch the draft idea altogether, and instead select our wrestlers auction-style: We each get some fixed number of fictional dollars, and bid on the wrestlers we want most. Wouldn't work to do this publically on these forums, though, since someone could easily outbid another who already posted their bids. Instead, we could privately send lists of wrestlers we want to the Commish, with a max dollar bid next to each name, and Commish could sort it out to see who gets what wrestlers according to high bids. Again, not trying to speak too far ahead, but if we liked any of these ideas, would be good to work it out. Thanks!
TheWave	Posted on 09/18/06 at 22:42:41 On 09/16/06 at 04:29:41, lazy_duck wrote:A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation. Apointed - 1 Tourney - 1 Undecided - 1 I vote to appoint our first champs. Though I vote against even having a 'main' NWA promotion, and instead vote to do only regional territories If we run unbooked title matches, though, how will that work? Couldn't each promoter just spike up their wrestler's stats to 100 to get him to win? I'm not too concerned about this, just curious. All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. AGREE (though we voted not to have an NWA TV title, so I guess that part is moot) WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. Okay, I need help with this rule: It says 'If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster.' What do they mean by one wrestler appearing on the same roster - same roster as what?!? Does that mean that if more than 1 territory picks the same wrestler, that wrestler is an official free agent? I vote that each territory should have exclusive rights to wrestlers drafted, at least to start out with, and at least to the top 50-80% of wrestlers drafted. It would be good to have multi-territory touring wrestlers (more realistic and interesting), but only to an extent; the bulk of each territory's roster should be exclusive to that territory. I can see the rationale to not have contracts, but if not, how do we determine if/when wrestlers leave a territory? If I run Mid-Atlantic and the Florida territory gets Dusty Rhodes, and never wants to give him up, does that mean I can never bring Big Dust into Mid-Atlantic as my franchise guy? So even if we don't go with standard contracts as set up in TNM, we should still have limits on how long a territory gets to keep wrestlers. OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. Size of roster 30 works for me; don't think it should be lower. NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Agree PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. This goes to the question asked about a NWA promotion + regionals or all regionals, If no NWA promotion then I guess we can throw out this rule Again, I vote for no national/'main'/'home' NWA promotion. Each promotion should be a regional territory. However, we can still do PPVs. I suggest each territory runs whatever non-PPV supercards they want to run. The only actual PPV supercards should be NWA-wide, and we could do up to 4 or so per year. Each could feature title defenses of all 3 NWA major titles, plus inter-promotional matches and/or regional title defenses and/or matches of the best feuds in different territories. I think one of the PPVs should be a Crockett Cup-style tag team tournament featuring teams across the NWA. Could have other similar events, like an NWA-wide Royal Rumble or singles tournament. If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. Same as above Agree. Draft If a draft do each region get an automatic franchise perosn? If no draft Would each region just get the wrestlers that historicly worked that region? I vote for a draft or auction to select wrestlers (see my previous post for other ideas). I also vote that we can nominate old-school-era wrestlers to add to Magister's extensive (and much-appreciated) list. If no discussion or objections from the other promoters, nominated wrestlers are added (as long as someone has exports of them). I vote NO to any automatically-included wrestlers for selected territories. One reason I say this is because it should make it easier for us to split up territories among us. If certain wrestlers are automatically included with a particular territory, then I think we would have to first draft territories. But if we run wrestler selection (draft/auction) completely separate, territory selection isn't quite as important and we can get it done pretty quickly. Another reason is that a lot of big names from those days worked a lot for multiple territories, and it's not so easy to solely identify them with 1 territory. Sure, Lawler = Memphis and Von Erichs = Dallas, but Dusty Rhodes, Roddy Piper, and Rick Rude, for instance, were all featured wrestlers for several territories. Regarding that, I vote that we each post 3 territories, in order of preference. If you're the only one who has 1st preference on a particular territory, you get it. If not, first one who posts that territory as his/her top preference gets it. It would be good, though, if anyone who loses out on their top preference somehow gets priority over others to get their 2nd pref. Would suck if a bunch of us get our 1st prefs and a couple get stuck with their 3rd prefs. I suppose we could try it out, maybe it will work out fine; I haven't yet seen much conflicting interests among those of us who mentioned territories we want. Also, are we only using the territories recently listed? Or can someone make up a territory that wasn't real? I vote NO, should only use the listed ones. I also vote that someone can pick WWF, AWA, or NWA (Crockett) if they want, but each would still just be a regional territory (New York/New England, or Minnesota and beyond, or Mid-Atlantic).
Magister369	Posted on 09/19/06 at 04:34:40 Wave has a great idea about drafting territories, if we pick 3 then we are all bound to get atleast one of our preferences' so i will start it off: pick # 1: CWF of course Pick # 2: Southwest championship wrestling: owned by joe blanchard, father of tully blanchard Pick # 3: Central States
meetzorak	Posted on 09/19/06 at 19:17:01 1.Mid-South 2. WCCW (granted i get all the Von Erics ;) ) 3. Georgia Championship Wrestling
TheWave	Posted on 09/19/06 at 19:34:52 1. World Class / Dallas 2. Minnesota/AWA turf 3. Mid-Atlantic
meetzorak	Posted on 09/19/06 at 21:22:58 also i got my edits working.
Magister369	Posted on 09/19/06 at 21:47:05 Great , as i have said before, if you see anything that needs to be tweeked or added let me know so we can all make the changes.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/20/06 at 00:18:51 My 3: 1. ICW 2. SOUTH EASTERN CHAMPIONSHIP WRESTLING/Continental Championship Wrestling 3. CWA/Memphis
peteg9699	Posted on 09/20/06 at 02:23:24 Hey guys, long time TNM user who just came back when Oliver sent an email about upgrading. I know I am late in getting involved but I would love to be involved in a project like this. Please let me know if it would be possible to come aboard. I dont mind what territory I get but would love to be aboard. Thanks all and its great to be back!!
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/20/06 at 04:30:56 Ok looks like we have added 2 new members that brings up to 9 i believe. I don't think anyone ever answered the questions listed above. AWA WWWF Mid South If we run unbooked title matches, though, how will that work? Couldn't each promoter just spike up their wrestler's stats to 100 to get him to win? I'm not too concerned about this, just curious. I would asume it would have to be on the honor system unless you want like to have some else run the match that does not have any intrest in it? Also the vote for 1st champions looks like 2 for appoint and 3 for tourney
peteg9699	Posted on 09/20/06 at 04:33:06 Lazy, am I 1 of the two new members? If so..... My three territory choices would be 1. Florida 2. New York 3. Mid-South
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/20/06 at 04:41:49 On 09/20/06 at 04:33:06, peteg9699 wrote:Lazy, am I 1 of the two new members? If so..... My three territory choices would be 1. Florida 2. New York 3. Mid-South correct and I believe the other is TNM?
peteg9699	Posted on 09/20/06 at 04:56:44 Very cool, I will send in my opinions tomorrow for votes.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/20/06 at 09:34:35 On 09/20/06 at 04:30:56, lazy_duck wrote:Ok looks like we have added 2 new members that brings up to 9 i believe. I don't think anyone ever answered the questions listed above. AWA WWWF Mid South If we run unbooked title matches, though, how will that work? Couldn't each promoter just spike up their wrestler's stats to 100 to get him to win? I'm not too concerned about this, just curious. I would asume it would have to be on the honor system unless you want like to have some else run the match that does not have any intrest in it? Also the vote for 1st champions looks like 2 for appoint and 3 for tourney I think we could get along with an honor system
peteg9699	Posted on 09/20/06 at 17:00:58 TITLES The only World titles recognized as such will be those sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance. Those titles at present include the World heavyweight, World Light-heavyweight (235 pounds and under), World Tag Team and World Television titles. Any contender as judged by the NWA can win these titles and defend them over the world. 3 titles NWA World Heaveyweight NWA World Junior Heaveyweight NWA World Tag Team Voted on 4-0 I would vote for adding the World TV Title A schedule will be determined by the NWA as to where any of its champions will go to defend their titles. Though the NWA will run much like a member promotion, the NWA champions will not be staked to the NWA to defend titles. They will travel amongst the member promotions, as well as defend their titles within the confines of the main federation. Apointed - 1 Tourney - 1 Undecided - 1 Tourney of 8 top contenders as voted on by members All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. Agreed WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. Contracts No Contracts If Contracts how long? Monthly contracts? The contract system in TNM is freaky.... OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. Size of roster 30 NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Agree PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. This goes to the question asked about a NWA promotion + regionals or all regionals, If no NWA promotion then I guess we can throw out this rule If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. Same as above I vote for no NWA main promotion Draft If a draft do each region get an automatic franchise perosn? If no draft Would each region just get the wrestlers that historicly worked that region? I vote for a draft where each region gets a franchise face and heel. The first two rounds would be their franchise picks and these wrestlers are exclusive to the region. I also like the idea of a Crockett Cup tag tourney, loved the two or three they had back in the day. Even bring in foreign teams to participate.
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/20/06 at 17:10:21 What year is going to be the start date for this?
Magister369	Posted on 09/20/06 at 21:15:07 i had suggested, no earlier than 1975- but no later than 1980, i would say these were the golden years for old school wrestling
meetzorak	Posted on 09/20/06 at 21:45:16 I think 73 would i good start year.
TheWave	Posted on 09/20/06 at 23:00:54 How flexible will we be with the time frame? In other words, if we start in 1975, does that mean we can only use wrestlers who were active as of that year? Or can we still use wrestlers from the general era, even if they didn't debut until after that year? I would vote for the latter: any wrestlers from the general era. Wrestlers who actually debuted after our start year could be 'new generation' talent and rookies (but would still have to be from the master list we are agreeing on). Other votes? If we're voting for years, or general eras, since I wasn't following wrestling in the 1970s, I would vote for the 70s-80s generally; or just the 80s; or 1983 if we want a specific year. Speaking of the master wrestler list, guys I would request adding include Dingo/Ultimate Warrior, Steve Simpson, and "Mr. Electricity" Steve Regal (who is not the same guy who worked as Lord Steven/William Regal, but rather an American wrestler who teamed up with Jimmy Garvin to win the AWA World Tag Team title in the mid-80s). I have an export for Simpson, which I pulled off a TNM Internet site (can't vouch for its accuracy). Don't know if there are any Steve Regal exports out there, he's pretty obscure. It's otherwise a very complete list though. Thanks! Jonathan
Magister369	Posted on 09/20/06 at 23:27:35 IMO general era old school wrestlers should do.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/21/06 at 01:32:40 Because Gino Hernendez died in 76 and i was hoping on using him.
Magister369	Posted on 09/21/06 at 02:05:53 Actually Gino Hernandez died in 1986, so u are free to use him, as is buzz sawyer or any other old school era wrester who died before their time.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/21/06 at 09:58:48 There goes my memorial show idea... meh, i'll just kill off someone that doens't matter.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/21/06 at 10:02:08 No one be supriased if Skip Youngs personal demons catch up to him. ;)
Magister369	Posted on 09/21/06 at 13:13:14 Skip Young AKA Sweet Brown Suger???? LOL!!!!!
meetzorak	Posted on 09/21/06 at 22:35:01 On 09/21/06 at 13:13:14, Magister369 wrote:Skip Young AKA Sweet Brown Suger???? LOL!!!!! damn skippy.
peteg9699	Posted on 09/22/06 at 14:47:27 Hey guys, where are we in the planning stages here?
Magister369	Posted on 09/22/06 at 15:47:35 I think we are waiting for the final say by Lazy-Duck on the territory picks, he is the NWA commish. I dont know if he has been to the boards lately. I too want to get started on this.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/22/06 at 15:48:45 I believe were waiting on some votes on apointing first champions or having a tourney? ALso I believe were choosing territories. We also need to cement how we are going to draft wrestlers
peteg9699	Posted on 09/22/06 at 16:01:52 Lazy, can you put together a list of who has voted and what needs to be voted on? This will confirm who is on board with the idea.
TheWave	Posted on 09/22/06 at 19:36:04 Going through all the posts, here is a summary of promoters and chosen territories as of now - please correct me or clarify if I'm wrong on anything. Listing promoters in no particular order, just using the numbers to note how many of us there are: 1. Lazy Duck: AWA territories 2. The Wave: World Class/Dallas 3. Meet Zorak: Mid-South 4. Magister: Florida 5. The Phantom: ICW 6. Pete G: New York/Northeast (WWF territories) That is based on those who sent in their 3 choices. Only 2 of the above had conflicting 1st-choice territories: Magister and Pete G both had Florida as their top preference. I listed it for Magister (and listed New York for Pete as his 2nd choice) since Magister posted his first. Others who expressed interest in being in this NWA but haven't posted territories: 7. Hall Nash 8. Huge Rock Star 9. TNM7 Hall Nash did mention the Northeast area before, but we hadn't established whether we were even choosing territories yet; that's why I listed that next to Pete G instead. Not trying to run the show or anything, just wanted to summarize where we are with territories. Lazy Duck, anyone else, please post corrections or objections, or other ideas of how to do this. Hall Nash, Huge Rock Star, and TNM7: Please let us know what territories you would like if you are still in on this. I don't know that all the above territories are officially 'taken' - we never said this was a territory draft - if you want one of the above, let us know maybe something can still be worked out. As far as I'm concerned, it's better for 2 promoters to get their 2nd choice territories than it is for 1 to get 1st choice and 1 to be stuck with their 3rd choice. Lazy Duck's the commish, though, so I'll stop here.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/22/06 at 19:56:57 What I have so far: TITLES The only World titles recognized as such will be those sanctioned by the National Wrestling Alliance. Those titles at present include the World heavyweight, World Light-heavyweight (235 pounds and under), World Tag Team and World Television titles. Any contender as judged by the NWA can win these titles and defend them over the world. 3 titles NWA World Heaveyweight NWA World Junior Heaveyweight NWA World Tag Team Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - agree meetzorak - agree Phantom - agree TheWave - agree HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - against TNM7 - 1st Champions Appointed or Tourney Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - Tourney meetzorak - Tourney Phantom - Tourney TheWave - appoint HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - Tourney TNM7 - All NWA titles will be defended in matches with 60 minute time limits, unless the matches have no time limits, are time-specified before the event in which a champion must wrestle, or if match stipulations simply do away with the time limit altogether. Even the Television title, which used to be defended in 10-and-15 minute timed matches, must now be subject to a 60 minute time limit. This decision makes all matches fair for contenders who would formerly be close to capturing a title, only to have a match ended due to the short time limit. Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - Agree meetzorak - Agree Phantom - Agree TheWave - Agree HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - Agree TNM7 - WRESTLERS AND CONTRACTS Wrestlers may be contracted to any member organization, but only limited by this rule: If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster. It will not matter if that wrestler appears on two cards on the exact same night. It will simply be assumed that the wrestler worked both cards at different times. The wrestler may also be ranked in each area and could also win titles accordingly. As a rule, any performer contracted are considered wrestlers employed by the NWA, and can be signed to a member organization exclusively if not appearing in other promotions. Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - No meetzorak - No Phantom - No TheWave - HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - No? TNM7 - OFFICIAL ROSTERS Size of roster, to have an effective group for storylines, can be no less than 25 names, and no more than 50 wrestlers. Groups within these boundaries should be large enough to set up storylines, and have undercard and preliminary rosters. Remember, too, that some of these men will be appearing on main NWA cards on occasion, and NWA main players can also appear in their area every now and then. Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - 30 meetzorak - 30 Phantom - 30 TheWave - 30 HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - 30 TNM7 - NO SHOWS There will be many opportunities in which a wrestler may no-show a scheduled event. Each member promotion may handle no-shows with their wrestlers in his/her own way. The NWA will not penalize a wrestler for no-shows with the following exception: If an NWA-sanctioned World or secondary champion no-shows a title defense, that wrestler will be stripped of his title, and according to the area in which the champion was to defend their belt, the top two contenders in that area, including any regional champion, will have a match to fill the vacant NWA title. No NWA primary or secondary champion will no-show an event to keep his belt. Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - Agree meetzorak - Agree Phantom - Agree TheWave - Agree HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - Agree TNM7 - PAY-PER-VIEWS AND TV SHOWS The NWA will schedule its own television and pay-per-view cards, and will bring wrestlers from member organizations in to perform on a "world stage." Promotions do NOT have to send any wrestler to any NWA event, or choose to send another wrestler in the previous wrestler's place. All NWA titles, unless injuries disallow it, will be defended at each PPV. This gives member wrestlers the opportunity to win any NWA title while representing their promotion. If a wrestler from a member organization is to appear at an NWA PPV, he may be asked to appear on NWA TV to set up the PPV appearance, whether he wrestles or not. Since there will be no "National" Promotion each territory will be responsible fortheir own PPV a "NWA PPV" will be scheduled maybe one every 2 months Lazy_Duck - Abstain unless Tie Magister369 - Agree meetzorak - Agree Phantom - Agree TheWave - Agree HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - Agree TNM7 - If a promoter believes one of their competitors are ready to appear on an NWA PPV, then a challenge must be made to a wrestler in either the NWA home promotion or in another member promotion. A match will not be booked for an NWA television or PPV production unless the challenge is accepted. If the challenge is for an NWA sanctioned title, the challenge is automatically accepted. If the challenge is for a title in another promotion, the member promotion must agree to the match, then contact the NWA president with the match and any stipulations that may come with it. Again simce there will be no National promotion, sharing of talent will be at the discression of the owners as long as it does not conflict with a NWA title match Territories Lazy_Duck - AWA Magister369 - CWF meetzorak - Mid South Phantom - ICW TheWave - World Class HallNash - HugeRockStar760 - peteg9699 - WWWF TNM7 - If Im Missing anything let me know, Also we need to figure out how the draft will work, finalize the wrestling pool and get this puppy started.
peteg9699	Posted on 09/22/06 at 20:30:29 Thanks Lazy and Wave. If someone else really wants the Northeast, I dont have a problem giving it up. Mid-Atlantic would be my next choice. Not sure what you mean that I voted against the titles, I just voted for the World TV Title. If thats not there, I wont lose sleep....lol. I did vote against contracts. We should allow trades across promotions. Since there is no national promotion, no need for "franchise" wrestlers as promoters will only let wrestlers go to another territory if they want to. Draft should be a serpentine draft (1-7 in round 1, 7-1 in round 2, etc). I think Magistars exports will be fine to draft from.
TheWave	Posted on 09/22/06 at 21:24:47 I didn't vote on the cards/no cards issue because I still don't understand this language in the NWA rule: "If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster." What does that mean - one wrestler appearing on the same roster - same as what? Wording there is awkward because it says 'one wrestler' singular and 'same roster' singular. Also, if we don't have a limited number of contracts per wrestler, what's to keep a promoter from holding onto all his wrestlers forever? Thanks! Jonathan
HugeRockStar760	Posted on 09/22/06 at 21:26:34 I'm somewhat interested in this but I really have no knowledge of wrestling before the 80s. My preference would be for booking Mid-Atlantic since that was the area I am from originally.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/22/06 at 22:09:48 On 09/22/06 at 21:24:47, TheWave wrote:I didn't vote on the cards/no cards issue because I still don't understand this language in the NWA rule: "If one wrestler appears on the same roster, that wrestler will be considered an "official" free agent, and may wrestle in any member organization and cannot be tied down to one roster." What does that mean - one wrestler appearing on the same roster - same as what? Wording there is awkward because it says 'one wrestler' singular and 'same roster' singular. Also, if we don't have a limited number of contracts per wrestler, what's to keep a promoter from holding onto all his wrestlers forever? Thanks! Jonathan I think it means multiple rosters and multiple shows good question on contracts, it would make things interesting if at some point top talent may wind up in another area...ideas?
Magister369	Posted on 09/22/06 at 22:20:15 once again if anyone wants my edits let me know, also once again if they need tweeking or anything like that let me know so we can all make changes.
Magister369	Posted on 09/22/06 at 22:52:51 BTW, can we get a forum going in the circuits area that we can post our cards under exclusively, how would we go about doing this?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/23/06 at 01:16:06 On 09/22/06 at 22:52:51, Magister369 wrote:BTW, can we get a forum going in the circuits area that we can post our cards under exclusively, how would we go about doing this? Im sure the mods will hook us up.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/23/06 at 02:42:48 I'm ready for this to happen. I think top stars should be able to be traded like any other wrestler so long as both sides agree. I've requested in the TNM Circuit section a forum for us so we'll see how that goes. I'm all for the draft order being 1-7, or what ever the current size may be and then reversed. 30 rounds of course. I don't know what the order will be but maybe we can do it in posts where the top person says their first pick and the second person and so on. Maybe as we post we put our pasts picks in there so everyone is able to see who they drafted. It would be nice to have a seperate topic just for this purpose. How do we handle the people left over?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/23/06 at 03:10:40 Free agents should come and go as needed.
Magister369	Posted on 09/23/06 at 07:51:45 i agree, free agents should be used as needed to fill out a card, but with 30 wrestlers per territory it shouldnt be too hard to put cards together.
TheWave	Posted on 09/24/06 at 04:23:56 On 09/22/06 at 22:09:48, lazy_duck wrote:good question on contracts, it would make things interesting if at some point top talent may wind up in another area...ideas? How about this: Every 3 months, each territory must release at least 3 wrestlers. Can release more if they want, and they can release them whenever they want during those 3 months (such as 1 per month, or all 3 at the end of the 3 months, etc.). Or we could use a different number instead of 3. Jonathan
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/24/06 at 04:43:49 On 09/24/06 at 04:23:56, TheWave wrote: How about this: Every 3 months, each territory must release at least 3 wrestlers. Can release more if they want, and they can release them whenever they want during those 3 months (such as 1 per month, or all 3 at the end of the 3 months, etc.). Or we could use a different number instead of 3. Jonathan That could work
TheWave	Posted on 09/24/06 at 05:09:56 Here are a few ideas for the draft for your consideration. We could use any 1 or more of these if they sound good: 1. Each promoter's first 3 drafted wrestlers must be ones who actually worked for their territory at some point in their career, whether face or heel, singles or tag team, franchise or otherwise. After those 3, you can draft anyone you want from the master list of wrestlers. 2. During any round (except the very last round), any promoter may opt to draft a tag team together instead of an individual wrestler, as long as: (a) the 2 wrestlers were a real-life legitimate tag team (including any former tag champs or contenders); and (b) the promoter must skip a pick the next round. So if I drafted a single wrestler in round 1, then a tag team in round 2, I don't draft again until round 4. You couldn't draft someone like Hogan & Savage this way, since they really only teamed up for an angle and weren't part of the WWF tag team division; but you could draft Sting & Luger this way since they held a tag team title. And if you wanted to form a brand new tag team, must draft the 2 wrestlers separately. You can only draft a single wrestler for the last round (or skip that round if you drafted a tag team the round before) since picking a tag team in the last round would give you 1 more wrestler than others. 3. We only pick 20 wrestlers per territory in the draft. Those 20 are exclusive to your territory and can only work for another territory if you agree to it. After the draft, you fill out the rest of your roster with up to 10 more undrafted wrestlers from the master list - and any of those wrestlers can work for any promoter/territory who wants them. That way, we each get plenty of talent who work for us and help us build the identity of our roster, while still allowing for non-exclusive, multi-territorial wrestlers, which is more true to life. 4. After the wrestler draft is over, we hold a manager/valet draft, using the reverse draft order used for the wrestler draft. 5. For the wrestler draft order, we use the reverse of the order with which we chose territories. Or, if not, just use a random order. Again, this is just brainstorming on my part. We can use all of those, any 1 or more of them, or none. As far as logistics of the draft, I assume we'll just have to post picks in one of these forums. Should we have a time limit to try to keep it moving - maybe something like 6 hours per pick? And if you get skipped, you can still come back later and pick a wrestler not yet drafted, you just might not get the guy you wanted and could have had if you picked on time. Thanks for reading, let us know what you think, Jonathan
Magister369	Posted on 09/24/06 at 05:27:27 How about this: Every 3 months, each territory must release at least 3 wrestlers. Can release more if they want, and they can release them whenever they want during those 3 months (such as 1 per month, or all 3 at the end of the 3 months, etc.). Or we could use a different number instead of 3. Jonathan thats a great idea, if we rotate wrestlers , and pick up new ones it keeps everything fresh.
Magister369	Posted on 09/24/06 at 06:06:54 1. Each promoter's first 3 drafted wrestlers must be ones who actually worked for their territory at some point in their career, whether face or heel, singles or tag team, franchise or otherwise. After those 3, you can draft anyone you want from the master list of wrestlers. Good idea, i had forgotten tag teams, that should get everyone off to a good start. 2. During any round (except the very last round), any promoter may opt to draft a tag team together instead of an individual wrestler, as long as: (a) the 2 wrestlers were a real-life legitimate tag team (including any former tag champs or contenders); and (b) the promoter must skip a pick the next round. So if I drafted a single wrestler in round 1, then a tag team in round 2, I don't draft again until round 4. You couldn't draft someone like Hogan & Savage this way, since they really only teamed up for an angle and weren't part of the WWF tag team division; but you could draft Sting & Luger this way since they held a tag team title. And if you wanted to form a brand new tag team, must draft the 2 wrestlers separately. You can only draft a single wrestler for the last round (or skip that round if you drafted a tag team the round before) since picking a tag team in the last round would give you 1 more wrestler than others. 3. We only pick 20 wrestlers per territory in the draft. Those 20 are exclusive to your territory and can only work for another territory if you agree to it. After the draft, you fill out the rest of your roster with up to 10 more undrafted wrestlers from the master list - and any of those wrestlers can work for any promoter/territory who wants them. That way, we each get plenty of talent who work for us and help us build the identity of our roster, while still allowing for non-exclusive, multi-territorial wrestlers, which is more true to life. 4. After the wrestler draft is over, we hold a manager/valet draft, using the reverse draft order used for the wrestler draft. 5. For the wrestler draft order, we use the reverse of the order with which we chose territories. Or, if not, just use a random order. Again, this is just brainstorming on my part. We can use all of those, any 1 or more of them, or none. As far as logistics of the draft, I assume we'll just have to post picks in one of these forums. Should we have a time limit to try to keep it moving - maybe something like 6 hours per pick? And if you get skipped, you can still come back later and pick a wrestler not yet drafted, you just might not get the guy you wanted and could have had if you picked on time. Putting a time limit on picks is a great idea, although i am not sure what length it should be. how many of us have access to the computer during the day at work or school.? the time limit should be long enough to be fair, but short enough that the process dosnt drag on.
meetzorak	Posted on 09/24/06 at 07:51:26 On 09/24/06 at 05:09:56, TheWave wrote:Here are a few ideas for the draft for your consideration. We could use any 1 or more of these if they sound good: 1. Each promoter's first 3 drafted wrestlers must be ones who actually worked for their territory at some point in their career, whether face or heel, singles or tag team, franchise or otherwise. After those 3, you can draft anyone you want from the master list of wrestlers. 2. During any round (except the very last round), any promoter may opt to draft a tag team together instead of an individual wrestler, as long as: (a) the 2 wrestlers were a real-life legitimate tag team (including any former tag champs or contenders); and (b) the promoter must skip a pick the next round. So if I drafted a single wrestler in round 1, then a tag team in round 2, I don't draft again until round 4. You couldn't draft someone like Hogan & Savage this way, since they really only teamed up for an angle and weren't part of the WWF tag team division; but you could draft Sting & Luger this way since they held a tag team title. And if you wanted to form a brand new tag team, must draft the 2 wrestlers separately. You can only draft a single wrestler for the last round (or skip that round if you drafted a tag team the round before) since picking a tag team in the last round would give you 1 more wrestler than others. 3. We only pick 20 wrestlers per territory in the draft. Those 20 are exclusive to your territory and can only work for another territory if you agree to it. After the draft, you fill out the rest of your roster with up to 10 more undrafted wrestlers from the master list - and any of those wrestlers can work for any promoter/territory who wants them. That way, we each get plenty of talent who work for us and help us build the identity of our roster, while still allowing for non-exclusive, multi-territorial wrestlers, which is more true to life. 4. After the wrestler draft is over, we hold a manager/valet draft, using the reverse draft order used for the wrestler draft. 5. For the wrestler draft order, we use the reverse of the order with which we chose territories. Or, if not, just use a random order. Again, this is just brainstorming on my part. We can use all of those, any 1 or more of them, or none. As far as logistics of the draft, I assume we'll just have to post picks in one of these forums. Should we have a time limit to try to keep it moving - maybe something like 6 hours per pick? And if you get skipped, you can still come back later and pick a wrestler not yet drafted, you just might not get the guy you wanted and could have had if you picked on time. Thanks for reading, let us know what you think, Jonathan I agree with all rules except number 1. IM TOTALLY AGAINST RULE 1!
peteg9699	Posted on 09/24/06 at 14:29:50 Same here, agree with all but #1
peteg9699	Posted on 09/25/06 at 17:15:02 LazyDuck, seems like alot of us are itching to get going on this, there is another thread started where the itchiness is showing :) http://www.tnm7.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=2;action=display;num=1159138675 Any update?
Magister369	Posted on 09/25/06 at 18:38:24 Speaking of slow if we all have 30 men and each person has 6 hrs to make thier pick were looking at 42 hrs a round for 30 rounds is around 2 months to pick 30 men. If that is what you want to do fine by me but I'm sure we would lose some folks alomg the way. There has got to be a better/faster way to draft wrestlers. how about everyone choose their first 10 picks, and if there are no conflicts move on to the next 10, any conflicts between promoters can be worked out with the final say by LazyDuck the Commish. Of course there are going to be overlapping picks, my suggestion would be before any promoter starts making plans on who they will make angles around they get all of the roster first. We never hammered out the contract system is at all if were going to use them. I still vote no on contracts, it makes a already complicated issue even more complicated, everyone will know everyone elses roster. the honor system should do fine We decided to have a tourney for the 1st champs. who will be in it, will it be the firts thing we do or will it be at the NWA PPV? i say a one night tournament to decide the first champions, i also say do the tournaments before we start that way the promoter will not lose a wrestler from his roster because he is the world champ, or tag team for the world tag team titles, or jr title as well. these are my nominations for the variouse titles: World Heavyweight: Ric Flair Dusty Rhodes Terry Funk Jack Brisco Harley Race Kerry von Erich wild card: Barry Windham- won later version of NWA title Ted Dibiase-never won NWA title World Tag team champions: Russians-Ivan koloff/Nikita Koloff Rock and Roll Express Midnight Express-Bobby Eaton/Stan Lane Minnisota Wrecking Crew-Ole/Gene Anderson Road Warriors Dory/Terry Funk Jack/Jerry Brisco Ricky Steamboat/Jay Youngblood Alternates: Ole/Arn Anderson-Four horsemen version Arn/Tull blanchard-Four horsemen version Original Midnight Express:Randy Rose/ The Freebirds-M Hays/Jimmy Garvin version As for the World Jr. title I will have to do some research on it. These are my suggestions for the title contenders.
TheWave	Posted on 09/25/06 at 21:08:31 On 09/25/06 at 17:19:30, lazy_duck wrote:The reason it is slow is because I want this to work, I've seen to many feds go down because things were noy ironed out before it got started. I want to make sure things are in order before we start so all we have to do is run our promotions and have fun and leave the BS alone. Again sorry if tings seem to be moving slow.. I'm behind you 100% on that, Lazy Duck. I'm anxious to get going too, but it's better to start it off right. Speaking of slow if we all have 30 men and each person has 6 hrs to make thier pick were looking at 42 hrs a round for 30 rounds is around 2 months to pick 30 men. If that is what you want to do fine by me but I'm sure we would lose some folks alomg the way. I agree. My earlier suggestion to only draft to 20 and sign the rest as free agents (#3 from my post of Sep 24th, 2006, 5:09am) helps a little, but not much. I like Magister's idea too, to get it going a little faster, or anything else that Lazy Duck comes up with to get through this faster. We never hammered out the contract system is at all if were going to use them. I'm fine with not using the TNM standard contract system, but would still like to have some rule in place that prevents any one promoter/territory from hoarding a bunch of wrestlers and never letting any of them go. One of my other suggestions from before seemed well-received - to require every territory to release a certain number of wrestlers per certain amount of time - I mentioned releasing at least 3 per 3-month period. We could do 1 release per month, but I figured 3 releases over 3 months gives each promoter more flexibility when they release them. We decided to have a tourney for the 1st champs. who will be in it, will it be the firts thing we do or will it be at the NWA PPV? No strong preference. I'll go with what everyone else wants to do. Draft order is no big to me If we want to go by who's idea then again Rockstar should go first. If we go by who signed up then we can do that. I don't care where in the draft I am. I feel the same way. However, I would rather base it on the reverse of the order we used to choose territories - that way, a promoter who didn't get first choice of their territories has a better chance of getting their top wrestler. Or just do purely random order. I'm not so crazy about basing it on order or frequency of posting, or who posted first, etc.
TheWave	Posted on 09/25/06 at 22:55:18 On 09/25/06 at 18:38:24, Magister369 wrote:these are my nominations for the variouse titles: World Heavyweight: Ric Flair Dusty Rhodes Terry Funk Jack Brisco Harley Race Kerry von Erich wild card: Barry Windham- won later version of NWA title Ted Dibiase-never won NWA title World Tag team champions: Russians-Ivan koloff/Nikita Koloff Rock and Roll Express Midnight Express-Bobby Eaton/Stan Lane Minnisota Wrecking Crew-Ole/Gene Anderson Road Warriors Dory/Terry Funk Jack/Jerry Brisco Ricky Steamboat/Jay Youngblood Alternates: Ole/Arn Anderson-Four horsemen version Arn/Tull blanchard-Four horsemen version Original Midnight Express:Randy Rose/ The Freebirds-M Hays/Jimmy Garvin version As for the World Jr. title I will have to do some research on it. These are my suggestions for the title contenders. I recommend at least including Steamboat and Kevin Von Erich for the Jr. Heavyweight title. Also, even though we're deciding "NWA" champions, we could try to include more WWF and AWA guys on the World title and Tag Team title contender lists, since we're still using the territorial equivalents of WWF and AWA. However, no big deal to me.
Carlzilla	Posted on 09/25/06 at 23:25:58 I'm not involved in this NWA Superfed, but I've been in my fair share of superfeds, and my suggestion to you guys is to figure out a time when you are all available and set up a chatroom on AIM or Yahoo! or one of those Instant Messaging services and do the draft on that. It's going to be very hard picking 30 guys on a message board unless you are all on at the same time anyway.
Magister369	Posted on 09/25/06 at 23:39:28 good idea, I have both yahoo messenger as well as aim, and paltalk(big Opie and Anthony fan)
The Phantom	Posted on 09/26/06 at 06:47:53 I have yahoo and aim as well but I work a weird schedule so the best times for me on on Sunday and Monday.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/27/06 at 04:09:31 I think this is a good idea, The only free time I woill have availible for an online chat session would be anytime after 10 pm Wed -fri and anyttime Saturday or Sunday. maybe post times when everyone is availible we can get this hammered away and get to the fun
Perverted_Icon	Posted on 09/27/06 at 12:42:26 On 09/25/06 at 23:39:28, Magister369 wrote:(big Opie and Anthony fan) Are ya????? ;D
peteg9699	Posted on 09/27/06 at 13:26:01 On 09/25/06 at 23:39:28, Magister369 wrote: and paltalk(big Opie and Anthony fan) Do ya? ;)
TheWave	Posted on 09/27/06 at 19:48:59 On 09/27/06 at 04:09:31, lazy_duck wrote:I think this is a good idea, The only free time I woill have availible for an online chat session would be anytime after 10 pm Wed -fri and anyttime Saturday or Sunday. maybe post times when everyone is availible we can get this hammered away and get to the fun What time zone? (I'm in the Eastern U.S. zone.) Lazy Duck, for anyone who cannot make the live draft, can they send you a ranked list of wrestlers beforehand for you to select on their behalf? I doubt we can find a time when all of us are available. Jonathan
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/27/06 at 22:11:45 Sorry should have posted that, I'm est That would prob be best if they can't attend. If not me someone else they trust
Magister369	Posted on 09/27/06 at 23:33:51 I am on EST as well.
The Phantom	Posted on 09/28/06 at 02:30:58 EST as well and a Sunday would be best for me.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/28/06 at 04:33:19 So are we looking at a pm time east on Sunday
Magister369	Posted on 09/28/06 at 13:53:45 PM on sunday EST sounds good,which format are we using yahoo, aim ?
meetzorak	Posted on 09/28/06 at 14:04:12 sunday is cool. Can we please use aim?
TheWave	Posted on 09/28/06 at 21:29:15 On 09/20/06 at 23:00:54, TheWave wrote:Speaking of the master wrestler list, guys I would request adding include Dingo/Ultimate Warrior, Steve Simpson, and "Mr. Electricity" Steve Regal (who is not the same guy who worked as Lord Steven/William Regal, but rather an American wrestler who teamed up with Jimmy Garvin to win the AWA World Tag Team title in the mid-80s). I have an export for Simpson, which I pulled off a TNM Internet site (can't vouch for its accuracy). Don't know if there are any Steve Regal exports out there, he's pretty obscure. It's otherwise a very complete list though. Also, Magister, I just realized you don't have Hulk Hogan in your list! Is that because he is the epitomy of sports entertainment and symbolizes the death of old school wrestling?? Jonathan
triad4evr	Posted on 09/29/06 at 01:13:51 A suggestion if you have multiple messenger programs going on- get Trillian- it's a chat program that can interface with all the major chat programs out there, so you can chat with your Yahoo, AIM, MSN, and IRQ friends all at once. It's pretty handy. Just do a google for "Trillian Chat Program". It's free.
Magister369	Posted on 09/29/06 at 04:19:19 I was never a fan of hogan, but i never used him because he mostly was in AWA/Memphis and of course WWF so i never used him in my NWA circuits. If you guys want him then by all means make him then distribute to everyone.
lazy_duck	Posted on 09/29/06 at 05:09:10 So far I see Sunday pm on Aim What time is good for everyone? If your unable to attend please dend me or someone who is attending your Draft list. Things that will be finalized this Sunday: Draft Order Draft picks NWA World title tourney entrents Anything else we need to talk about?
peteg9699	Posted on 09/29/06 at 13:20:37 I think we just need to discuss releasing a couple of wrestlers monthly or whatever to let guys move around.
TheWave	Posted on 09/29/06 at 16:08:06 I agree, what are we doing for wrestlers releases? (My suggestion was require at least 3 wrestlers released per 3 months per territory.) This maybe could be finalized after the draft though. What, if any, of my below ideas are we incorporating into the wrestler draft?: On 09/24/06 at 05:09:56, TheWave wrote:Here are a few ideas for the draft for your consideration. We could use any 1 or more of these if they sound good: 1. Each promoter's first 3 drafted wrestlers must be ones who actually worked for their territory at some point in their career, whether face or heel, singles or tag team, franchise or otherwise. After those 3, you can draft anyone you want from the master list of wrestlers. 2. During any round (except the very last round), any promoter may opt to draft a tag team together instead of an individual wrestler, as long as: (a) the 2 wrestlers were a real-life legitimate tag team (including any former tag champs or contenders); and (b) the promoter must skip a pick the next round. So if I drafted a single wrestler in round 1, then a tag team in round 2, I don't draft again until round 4. You couldn't draft someone like Hogan & Savage this way, since they really only teamed up for an angle and weren't part of the WWF tag team division; but you could draft Sting & Luger this way since they held a tag team title. And if you wanted to form a brand new tag team, must draft the 2 wrestlers separately. You can only draft a single wrestler for the last round (or skip that round if you drafted a tag team the round before) since picking a tag team in the last round would give you 1 more wrestler than others. 3. We only pick 20 wrestlers per territory in the draft. Those 20 are exclusive to your territory and can only work for another territory if you agree to it. After the draft, you fill out the rest of your roster with up to 10 more undrafted wrestlers from the master list - and any of those wrestlers can work for any promoter/territory who wants them. That way, we each get plenty of talent who work for us and help us build the identity of our roster, while still allowing for non-exclusive, multi-territorial wrestlers, which is more true to life. There was strong objection to #1, but I don't recall any objections to the other 2. Are we drafting 20 wrestlers each per above #3, or going the full 30 in the draft? Also, what wrestlers can we draft? Magister's list, right? Can we at least agree to add Hulk Hogan and Dingo/Ultimate Warrior/Blade Runner Rock to the list? I am not too concerned with the specifics on their exports, as long as they're basically the same as their 1980s personas (no Hollywood Hogan, in other words). Are there any other big-name guys or tag teams from the 70s and 80s that are missing from the list? Also, do we need to figure out exactly who is still in on this idea before the draft? I think we added up 9 total who expressed interest at one time or another, but we haven't heard from a few of them in a while whether they're still in (HallNash, TNM7, HugeRockStar). Or do we just go with whoever shows up for the draft plus anyone who can't make it but sends a pre-ranked list ahead of time? Lastly, we don't have a final list of territories assigned to whom. Do we want to finalize that before the draft, or is everyone comfortable with what territory you and others have? Thanks! Jonathan
The Phantom	Posted on 09/29/06 at 17:19:35 I should be available any time after 4pm EST time on Sunday.
TheWave	Posted on 10/01/06 at 02:10:43 On 09/29/06 at 16:08:06, TheWave wrote:Also, what wrestlers can we draft? Magister's list, right? Can we at least agree to add Hulk Hogan and Dingo/Ultimate Warrior/Blade Runner Rock to the list? I am not too concerned with the specifics on their exports, as long as they're basically the same as their 1980s personas (no Hollywood Hogan, in other words). Are there any other big-name guys or tag teams from the 70s and 80s that are missing from the list? Came up with a few more: Neither Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Scott Hall, nor Leon White is on the master list. So can we add them, as well as Hogan and Hellwig? Would also like to be able to draft or sign Brian Pillman, Steve Simpson, Tom Zenk, Wayne Bloom, and/or Barry Darsow/Krusher Khrushchev, who aren't on the list. Maybe Ron & Don Harris too, though I don't recall when they started wrestling or got big in Pacific Northwest. There are also a number of duplicates on the list (Muta, DeBeers, Kirchner, Leo Burke, Gary Hart, Mike Sharpe, maybe a few others). That shouldn't matter much, though. Jonathan
Magister369	Posted on 10/01/06 at 06:15:29 if you need info on the wrestlers: http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com/ is a perfect site to make exports from. also http://www.infinitecore.com/superstar/index.php is the home to the Kayfabe message board, everything you ever wanted to know about oldschool wrestling is on there. So my suggestion is instead of one person making exports you make your own then send to the rest of the group to add to the list. Have we come up with a official time to get together for the draft, anytime sunday is good for me.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/01/06 at 11:28:37 don't know about official time but maybe around 8 pm est
meetzorak	Posted on 10/01/06 at 12:01:52 On 10/01/06 at 11:28:37, lazy_duck wrote:don't know about official time but maybe around 8 pm est Sounds peachy my Screen name is meetzorak.
TheWave	Posted on 10/01/06 at 22:50:44 Just downloading AIM now. My screen name is the1stwave; email is the1stwave@yahoo.com. Not real familiar with AIM. What do I need to do at 8:00? Jonathan
The Phantom	Posted on 10/01/06 at 23:03:14 I'm the ThePhantom86 on AIM, add me as a buddy. I'm on right now.
Magister369	Posted on 10/02/06 at 00:12:56 my name is Magister3 on AIM
meetzorak	Posted on 10/02/06 at 00:57:52 On 10/01/06 at 22:50:44, TheWave wrote:Just downloading AIM now. My screen name is the1stwave; email is the1stwave@yahoo.com. Not real familiar with AIM. What do I need to do at 8:00? Jonathan Just sign on and im gonna invite you to a chat room.
Magister369	Posted on 10/02/06 at 01:49:30 Lazy Duck if you are reading this, sign into AIM and join us, what is your Screen name?
TheWave	Posted on 10/02/06 at 05:25:31 Sorry I was unavailable; I had to step away without warning because my baby was crying. I read what you guys decided (since I wasn't actually signed off, just not at my PC) and it sounds good. Thanks!
Magister369	Posted on 10/02/06 at 05:37:56 I am posting the preliminary draft picks we made when we met in the chat room, Lazy-duck and Pete we picked for you the first 15 rounds, we will all meet again and finish up the picks. if there are any changes or picks you want to trade or change let us know, remember these are only preliminary picks and by no means final. the list is as follows: Magister369: BJ mulligan Ron bass Mike graham Steve keirn Spoiler# 1 Spoilers 2 Jack Brisco Mr. Wrestling II Earnie Ladd Bob Armstrong Assassin # 1 Angelo mosca Jerry brisco Bugsy mcgraw Ox Baker The Phantom Haley Race Midnight express:Eaton/lane Randy savage King kong bundy Dusty rhodes Baron von wreascke JYD Pat tanaka Paul diamond Ole Anderson Arn Anderson Ron garvin Tully blanchard Lanny poffo The Wave:-u get one more pick for the 15th round Kerry von erich Kevin von erich David von erich bruiser brody stan Hansen terry gordy nikita koloff m.hayes jake roberts ivan koloff dr. death steve williams eddie gilbert curt henning bret hart Meetorak: Terry taylor Ted Dibiase fantastics: Tommy Rodgers/Bobby Fulton great muta sheik rick steamboat Terry funk Dory funk Jr. Magnum TA Chris Adams Gino Hernendez Abdullah the butcher Carlos colon Butch Reed Lazy duck: Ric flair Nick Bockwinkle Adrian Adonis Jessie Ventura Verne Gagne Hulk Hogan Animal Hawk Jerry Blackwell Jerry Lawler Sgt. Slaughter Larry Zybizco Greg Gagne Jim Brunzell Wahoo McDaniel Pete: Bruno Sammartino Andre the giant Bob Backlund Samoans: Afa/Sika-heel Jimmy Snuka Roddy Piper Iron sheik Pedro Morales BobOrton jr. Strongbows: Jay/Jules Pat Patterson Greg Valentine Honky Tonk Man AKA:Wayne Ferris and let me repeat, these are preliminary picks, up to the 15th round, we still have to pick 15 more for total of 30. It was also agreed that we would book world title matchs but then at the big PPV style cards the world title matchs would go unbooked if agreed upon by all the promoters this way we would not have a constant turn over of champions but could still set up unbooked title matchs with worthy opponents. Hopfully we can all meet again and finish the draft picks also this will allow others to join the fed.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/02/06 at 13:42:13 Thanks for picking for me guys. Not too happy that I did not know about the draft and that a decision seemed to have been made very quickly. Let me know when the rest of the draft will happen. I would like to change some of my picks I want to drop Andre, Bruno, Snuka, Iron Shiek, Pat Patterson, HTM and Pedro Morales. I would like to pickup Barry Windham, Butch Reed, Dan Krofatt, Doug Furnas, Jimmy Garvin, Johnny Ace and Masked Superstar
meetzorak	Posted on 10/02/06 at 15:08:05 Well im very willing to trade Butch Reed for Andre.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/02/06 at 15:11:19 LOL, I stink. Meet, if you want to make that deal, I am game.
TheWave	Posted on 10/02/06 at 16:38:33 Yeah, there was never official word from the Commish other than implying we would draft last night around 8. If we need to, we can completely wipe this out and start over, to make it fair. I won't be able to do another one live, but can send Lazy Duck or someone else a wish list of wrestlers. I'm actually willing to drop some of my guys. I realized I was a little too ambitious and actually think my roster is TOO good - kind of like having too many all-stars and not enough role players. Don't think it seems very old school. It'll be tough booking all these guys. I'm keeping the 3 Von Erichs I have for sure, everyone else is negotiable. Pete, or Lazy Duck, anyone from my roster you really want?
The Phantom	Posted on 10/02/06 at 17:04:14 Sorry to peteg and lazy but this show kinda needs to get on the road. And this draft is pending approval from lazy so we can start again if needed but we need to get a set time in place. I suggest that the offical time for the next meeting be Sun. Oct 8, 2006 at 8pm. We can finish the draft or start a new and tie up any lose ends.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/02/06 at 17:18:40 Wave, I would love to get Doc and Gordy and the Koloffs. Lazy_Duck if you want any of the guys I mentioned, let me know
Magister369	Posted on 10/02/06 at 18:08:43 As i said guys this was a preliminary draft, am willing to trade but i like my picks and want to keep them, i say sunday at 8 pm is good, if everyon e can attend it would be great, otherwise submit your list to LD and we can get this started.
TheWave	Posted on 10/02/06 at 18:19:36 You can also contact me via the private/direct IM in these Forums, or by email at the1stwave@yahoo.com.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/02/06 at 20:35:37 Hey guys first off let me apologise for rnot naking it last nigh. I was moving and the damn comcast folks rescheduled my install saying they overbooked. I am availible tonight if you want to continue the draft from where you guys left off. I'll be on AIm around 7:30 pm est my screen name is the lazy duk
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/02/06 at 20:43:49 On 10/02/06 at 17:04:14, The Phantom wrote:Sorry to peteg and lazy but this show kinda needs to get on the road. And this draft is pending approval from lazy so we can start again if needed but we need to get a set time in place. I suggest that the offical time for the next meeting be Sun. Oct 8, 2006 at 8pm. We can finish the draft or start a new and tie up any lose ends. I'm ok with my picks and if need will work with what I was givin and hope to make it with my 5 last picks. For those who don't like the picks if you see someone you want you can see if the othe owners are willing to trade. If we are all in ageement the october 8th at 8pm will be to finish up the draft clear up loose ends and get things started.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/02/06 at 21:23:25 My AOL IM is peteg9699
meetzorak	Posted on 10/03/06 at 09:34:19 On 10/02/06 at 15:08:05, meetzorak wrote:Well im very willing to trade Butch Reed for Andre. Edit: Reed for Snuka. not that it matters either way.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/03/06 at 16:54:19 On 10/03/06 at 09:34:19, meetzorak wrote: Edit: Reed for Snuka. not that it matters either way. Whichever one you want you got meetzorak. Let me know
meetzorak	Posted on 10/03/06 at 17:25:22 Snuka
peteg9699	Posted on 10/03/06 at 22:09:33 you got it
TheWave	Posted on 10/03/06 at 22:19:08 Lazy Duck, I sent you a private/direct TNM7 Forums message. Please check it when you get a chance, thanks!
peteg9699	Posted on 10/05/06 at 15:42:24 Any update here guys? I see Lazy Duck posting in other forums.....
moneyp	Posted on 10/05/06 at 17:04:00 I might be interested in this thing, if you guys have room for one more. Has Georgia been accounted for? I'm willing to field an expansion roster.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/05/06 at 17:21:25 On 10/05/06 at 15:42:24, peteg9699 wrote:Any update here guys? I see Lazy Duck posting in other forums..... We will finish the draft this Sunday, Oct 8, at 8pm on AIM. And also talk about the tournament for the main titles and anything else anyone has I guess. moneyp, I think Georgia is open but it's up to Lazy if you get in.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/05/06 at 20:46:13 Can I assume I am able to pickup and drop the wrestlers requested? On 10/02/06 at 13:42:13, peteg9699 wrote:Thanks for picking for me guys. Not too happy that I did not know about the draft and that a decision seemed to have been made very quickly. Let me know when the rest of the draft will happen. I would like to change some of my picks I want to drop Andre, Bruno, Snuka, Iron Shiek, Pat Patterson, HTM and Pedro Morales. I would like to pickup Barry Windham, Butch Reed, Dan Krofatt, Doug Furnas, Jimmy Garvin, Johnny Ace and Masked Superstar
TheWave	Posted on 10/05/06 at 22:07:54 Personally, I don't see why not, as we picked a bunch of wrestlers for you that you didn't want, while we all drafted wrestlers for ourselves that we wanted. So I think it's only fair. Of your list of pick-ups, I think Butch Reed was the only one who technically was unavailable as MeetZorak drafted him, but I think you already worked that out by him taking Snuka and you getting Reed. But I'm not the Commish. On a related note, I'm sending Steve Williams and Ivan & Nikita Koloff to Peteg9699, not getting anyone from his current roster in return. Is it okay for me to go ahead and pick up 4 available guys now to add to my roster (3 to make up for Williams and the Koloffs, plus the 1 I never drafted yet in the 15th spot)?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/06/06 at 01:34:57 I dont see why not, moneyp if you can join us Sunday at 8 I can see who is all with us and see if there is any room
peteg9699	Posted on 10/06/06 at 13:07:40 Great, thanks Lazy. We are getting together 8pm Sunday? So just to confirm, here is what my roster should look like now. Barry Windham Butch Reed Dan Krofatt Doug Furnas Jimmy Garvin Johnny Ace Masked Superstar Steve Williams Ivan Koloff Nikita Koloff Afa Sika Bob Backlund Roddy Piper Bob Orton Jr Jay Strongbow Jules Strongbow Greg Valentine
moneyp	Posted on 10/06/06 at 16:18:16 On 10/06/06 at 01:34:57, lazy_duck wrote:I dont see why not, moneyp if you can join us Sunday at 8 I can see who is all with us and see if there is any room Cool. Join you guys here? Or via instant message?
TheWave	Posted on 10/06/06 at 19:58:10 AOL Instant Messaging. Some of us posted our AIM names, I think back on the 10th or 11th pages of this forum. On second thought, I don't think I'll add 4 more guys to my roster just yet, will wait for draft part 2, since I'd like to give MoneyP a better shot to try to catch up with wrestlers he wants. Also, anyone have any problems with me releasing Bret Hart back into the waters? I don't really have a place for him on my roster right now. Or should I stick with him and release him after all the drafting? I will add just 1 more right now, just to complete a set of Freebirds: Buddy "Jack" Roberts. So that should put me to 13 or 14 wrestlers, I think. In fact, why don't we have MoneyP go ahead and select 15 wrestlers right away, from available undrafted wrestlers, and then he can draft his remaining 15 along with the rest of us on AIM Sunday? Might go quicker that way. What do you all think? Also, during the draft, can we please not pick for anyone who isn't there, unless they sent a wishlist ahead of time to someone? That could really slow us down, debating who to draft for someone else. If you can't show up for the draft, and you can't send a list ahead of time to someone who will be there, then you just have to wait until afterwards. Do you all agree? Here's an alphabetical list of wrestlers already taken: Abdullah the butcher Adrian Adonis Afa Angelo mosca Animal Arn Anderson Assassin # 1 Baron von raschke Barry Windham Blackjack Mulligan Bob Armstrong Bob Backlund Bob Orton Jr. Bobby Eaton Bobby Fulton bruiser brody Buddy Roberts * Bugsy mcgraw Butch Reed Carlos colon Chris Adams curt hennig Dan Kroffat David von erich Dory funk Jr. Doug Furnas Dusty rhodes eddie gilbert Ernie Ladd Gino Hernendez great muta Greg Gagne Greg Valentine Harley Race Hawk Hulk Hogan ivan koloff Jack Brisco jake roberts Jay Strongbow Jerry Blackwell Jerry brisco Jerry Lawler Jesse Ventura Jim Brunzell Jimmy Garvin Jimmy Snuka Johnny Ace Jules Strongbow Junkyard Dog Kerry von erich Kevin von erich King kong bundy Lanny poffo Larry Zbyszko Magnum TA Masked Superstar Michael Hayes Mike graham Mr. Wrestling II Nick Bockwinkle nikita koloff Ole Anderson Ox Baker Pat tanaka Paul diamond Randy savage Ric flair rick steamboat Roddy Piper Ron bass Ron garvin Sgt. Slaughter sheik (original) Sika Spoiler 1 Spoiler 2 stan Hansen Stan Lane Steve keirn Steve Williams Ted Dibiase Terry funk terry gordy Terry taylor Tommy Rogers Tully blanchard Verne Gagne Wahoo McDaniel (* - I included Buddy Roberts and omitted Bret Hart per above, unless that isn't approved.) Why am I posting this list? Because another thing that could really slow us down during the draft is people trying to pick guys already taken or continuing to ask "Is wrestler x available?" I've been in drafts like that and it sucks. So please be ready to draft by knowing what wrestlers you can pick from and what ones are unavailable. I suppose a list of guys still available would be more helpful, but that would have been a lot more work. I just realized that PeteG currently has more wrestlers than the rest of us, since I gave him 3 and he didn't give any to me. I have no problem with that, since he was already at a disadvantage by not being able to draft last Sunday, but maybe he should skip the first 3 rounds this Sunday? Finally, what draft order will we use? I recommend this order: 1. MoneyP (again, to give him a better chance at catching up with the rest of us) 2. PeteG (since he wasn't at the 1st draft and got stuck with a bunch of wrestlers he didn't want) 3. LazyDuck (since he also wasn't at the 1st draft) 4. MeetZorak 5. The Wave 6. Phantom 7. Magister That's essentially the reverse of the order we started with anyway, which makes double sense because round 16 would be snaking back from last to first again, so we would have basically done that order for round 16 had we continued last Sunday. Again, though, I think MoneyP should go ahead and select 15 now (or even 16 if he picks first in the 16th round), or at least before the draft. Then I can select another 3-4 to get to 15 myself and make up for dropping Williams and the Koloffs, and maybe Bret Hart. Then we can get everyone else started, minus PeteG who will skip 3 rounds. LazyDuck, and everyone else, what do you think? Thanks! Jonathan
peteg9699	Posted on 10/06/06 at 20:27:55 I have no problem skipping the first 3 rounds to let everyone else catch up. Also dont have a problem with anything else TheWave mentioned, all sounds good to me. Let moneyP pick 15 guys now also should be ok.
moneyp	Posted on 10/06/06 at 23:01:11 Thanks for letting me join in, guys. What's the restrictions in regards to time frame/region for potential selections? Let me know and I'll have the sixteen by tomorrow morning. P.S.: Darn, Crusher Blackwell has already been taken. The Georgia Wrestling Federation just isn't the same without "The Moutain From Stone Mountain." MoneyP
TheWave	Posted on 10/06/06 at 23:12:31 Time frame is 70s & 80s. We're working off a master list of exports, posted by Magister - see the 2nd page of this forum. Everyone there is available, minus those I posted just a bit ago. There are some era wrestlers not included on that list, which (as I understand it, anyhow), you are fine to use and draft as long as you submit an appropriate export of that wrestler to everyone (don't have to do so before the draft though). For instance, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Scott Hall = not on the master list, but should all be fine to draft (though Hogan is already taken). Just don't draft wrestlers from the 90s and beyond who weren't really around earlier. We haven't had any disputes yet about wrestlers, though almost everyone we've selected so far is on Magister's list. You can draft any era wrestlers regardless of region or territory - don't have to get just real life Georgia wrestlers.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/06/06 at 23:20:25 I don't have a problem with moneyp selecting his 15 right now. I'll even offer Dusty Rhodes to him if he wants. As for the time frame, I think it's late 70's/early 80's but lazy can confirm. I'm going to try to make the draft but if I can't, then I will send some picks to all that way someone is sure to be at the draft and know what I want. Watch your messages on this board. It's going to be a weird day on Sunday so just in case.
moneyp	Posted on 10/07/06 at 06:50:26 On 10/06/06 at 23:20:25, The Phantom wrote:I don't have a problem with moneyp selecting his 15 right now. I'll even offer Dusty Rhodes to him if he wants. As for the time frame, I think it's late 70's/early 80's but lazy can confirm. Well shoot, I can't turn down the American Dream. Thanks much, Phantom! Alright, my Sweet (initial) Sixteen: Dusty Rhodes (thanks again, Phantom) Andre the Giant (maybe not entirely appropriate for a Georgia wrestling circuit, but if he's available, I can't pass him up. I love Andre.) "Superstar" Billy Graham (one of my absolute favorites) "Dirty" Dutch Mantel "Playboy" Buddy Rose Big John Studd Tommy Rich Ray Stevens Johnny Valentine Paul Jones Dennis Condrey Randy Rose "Mad Dog" Buzz Sawyer Rocky Johnson Rufus R. Jones Jimmy Valiant Let me know if all of these guys are acceptable. I'll set up an AIM account early tomorrow and let you all know what it is.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/07/06 at 07:26:27 I always liked Big John Studd...those picks look fine to me. Should be some good battles with the Giant and Studd
Magister369	Posted on 10/07/06 at 08:00:02 Welcome moneyP glad to have you with us, you have some really good picks, that should really get the georgia area going. if their are any exports that you think we should have that are not on the list please make them and distribute to the rest of the promoters. welcome aboard.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/08/06 at 00:29:09 Does anyone know of any old school refs?
moneyp	Posted on 10/08/06 at 03:52:03 My brand new AIM handle is moneypTNM I'll log in around 7:30 EST tomorrow night. Whom should I look for?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/08/06 at 04:27:50 I should be on around that time..Mu AIM is the lazy duk
The Phantom	Posted on 10/08/06 at 04:35:19 Heres the cast: meetzorak the1stwave ThePhantom86 Magister3 lazy duk peteg9699
Magister369	Posted on 10/08/06 at 05:53:25 Hi fellow promoters, I may not be able to make the rest of the draft, I have no problem if you pick the rest for me, my only requirement would be no old WWF guys, I want to stick to old school southern wrestlers, Meet if you can return the favor of picking for me I would appriciate it. I will post tomorrow, to confirm if I will be able to attend
moneyp	Posted on 10/08/06 at 05:56:05 Grazi for the ID list. Magister, I'd appreciate the exports when you get an opportunity. Looks like a lot of good stuff in there. snapwilson at gmail.com Reading back through the thread again, I guess it was decided to do this with no contracts, but releasing three wrestlers every three months or so? Do I have that right? Really looking forward to this. Looks like it will be a blast. thanks, MoneyP
meetzorak	Posted on 10/08/06 at 17:18:45 Id be honored to pick for you Mag.
Perverted_Icon	Posted on 10/08/06 at 17:22:42 Whenever someone in old school wrestling said it was an "honor" to do something for another wrestler, he usually cracked said wrestler shortly afterward with a chair. I'd watch out if I were you.
moneyp	Posted on 10/08/06 at 23:14:19 A thought regarding the NWA belt holders. While they're off touring and defending their belts, do the circuits they belong to just treat them as if they're gone? What about any belts they hold in their current circuits? Are those gone as well or are they vacated or what? Or is it the sort of thing where they work their own circuit regularly and then mount a title defense at another circuit once a month? I have no problem with the above, but here's an idea I had: We could hold four quarterly cross-promotional events (very WWF, I know) where wrestlers from all the promotions convene and hold a card. Three of the matches would be title defenses (the challengers could be worked out with pre-card tournaments), and the other matches could be whatever circuit owners want to schedule. It would be a way of keeping the "universe" more shared, while spacing the events out enough so that they're still seen as something special. I'm just throwing it out there, but what do you guys think?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/08/06 at 23:56:14 I believe any World title holder can hold as many belts as he can win. For World titles a schedule will be generated where he will defend the belts. How they defend sny local promotion belt is up to the owner as lomg as it does not interfear with his touring schedule. I think evrey 1 or 2 months there will be a NWA PPV where all the world titles will be on the line. Any local belts put up at that time will be up to the promoter. We can talk about that tonight as well
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 01:02:36 Hi guys looks like I am stuck for the evening, Meet if you would pick my last 15 I will be good., MoneyP my take on the three main titles should be if the person who wins the title is in your territory you should give him up and pick another to replace him, until such a time is they lose the title, then the promoter has the choice of returning the original wrestler back to his teritory or putting him back into the talent pool. This is why I wanted to appoint champs or run tournys before We start running cards, so we could make the nessasary changes to our rosters.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 01:04:38 If its not a problem, I would like to throw back the Strongbows. I will mention it during tonights draft also
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 01:48:35 On 10/09/06 at 01:02:36, Magister369 wrote:Hi guys looks like I am stuck for the evening, Meet if you would pick my last 15 I will be good., MoneyP my take on the three main titles should be if the person who wins the title is in your territory you should give him up and pick another to replace him, until such a time is they lose the title, then the promoter has the choice of returning the original wrestler back to his teritory or putting him back into the talent pool. This is why I wanted to appoint champs or run tournys before We start running cards, so we could make the nessasary changes to our rosters. It seems like it could get difficult to plan a storyline if your guy could be out of your circuit at a moment's notice. How far apart will the title defenses be scheduled? Once a month? Longer? Shorter? This is why I would suggest allowing the NWA title holder participate in his own circuit with a brief absence for those dates that he has to go off to defend his title according to whatever schedule gets devised. No interruption of local circuits (and it would allow for the circuits to address the wrestler as "NWA Heavyweight Champion," etc. on their own cards.) Also, how is it decided who in what circuit gets to fight for the title? Just circuit owner's choice?
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 01:57:27 Tonight's picks: Lazy Duk Jumbo Tsuruta Bobby Duncum Jr. Skandor Akbar Dan Spivey Iron Sheik Boris Zhukov Brad Armstrong Ivan Putski Tony Atlas Johnny Rich Meetzorak Mike Rotundo Cactus Jack Matt Borne Tom Prichard The Barbarian The Warlord Jeff Gaylord Mr. Fuji Atsushi Onita The1stWave "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan (Hoooooo!) Davey Boy Smith Dynamite Kid Scott Hog Wild Bill Irwin One Man Gang Rick Rude Don Muraco Kabuki Al Perez Wendell Cooley Nikolai Volkoff PeteG9699 Ricky Morton Robert Gibson Luke Williams Butch Miller J.J. Dillon Rick Martel Shane Douglas Big Bubba Rogers ThePhantom86 Iceman King Parsons Paul Orndorff Rip Rogers Pez Whatley Scott Steiner Rick Steiner Dick Slater Gene Anderson Kevin Sullivan Rod Price Magister369 Manny Fernandez Jay Youngblood Mark Youngblood Hector Guerrero Tracey Smothers Steve Armstrong Robert Fuller Chavo Guerrero Hiro Matsuda MoneyP Buddy Landell Bill Dundee Johnny Valiant The Moondogs (all of them!) Norvell Austin Billy Jack Haynes Sam Houston Cowboy Bill Watts Pork Chop Cash
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 05:36:34 Magister369: BJ mulligan Ron bass Mike graham Steve keirn Spoiler# 1 Spoilers 2 Jack Brisco Mr. Wrestling II Earnie Ladd Bob Armstrong Assassin # 1 Angelo mosca Jerry brisco Bugsy mcgraw Ox Baker Manny Fernandez Jay Youngblood Mark Youngblood Rick Fuller Dick Murdoch The Grappler Robert Fuller Hiro Matsuda Kim Duk The Phantom Haley Race Midnight express:Eaton/lane Randy savage King kong bundy Dusty rhodes Baron von wreascke JYD Pat tanaka Paul diamond Ole Anderson Arn Anderson Ron garvin Tully blanchard Lanny poffo Iceman King Parsons Paul Orndorff Rip Rogers Pez Whatley Scott Steiner Rick Steiner Dick Slater Gene Anderson Kevin Sullivan Rod Price Black Bart Conquistadors 1,2 Mad Dog Vachon The Cuban Assassin El Santo The Wave: Kerry von erich Kevin von erich David von erich bruiser brody stan Hansen terry gordy m.hayes jake roberts ivan koloff eddie gilbert curt henning bret hart "Hacksaw" Jim Duggan (Hoooooo!) Davey Boy Smith Dynamite Kid Scott Hog Wild Bill Irwin One Man Gang Rick Rude Don Muraco Kabuki Al Perez Wendell Cooley Nikolai Volkoff Meetorak: Terry taylor Ted Dibiase fantastics: Tommy Rodgers/Bobby Fulton great muta sheik rick steamboat Terry funk Dory funk Jr. Magnum TA Chris Adams Gino Hernendez Abdullah the butcher Carlos colon Butch Reed Mike Rotundo Cactus Jack Matt Borne Tom Prichard The Barbarian The Warlord Jeff Gaylord Mr. Fuji Atsushi Onita The Strongbows John Nord Killer Kahn Tom Brandi Riki Choshu Lazy duck: Ric flair Nick Bockwinkle Adrian Adonis Jessie Ventura Verne Gagne Hulk Hogan Animal Hawk Jerry Blackwell Jerry Lawler Sgt. Slaughter Larry Zybizco Greg Gagne Jim Brunzell Wahoo McDaniel Jumbo Tsuruta Bobby Duncum Jr. Skandor Akbar Dan Spivey Iron Sheik Boris Zhukov Brad Armstrong Ivan Putski Tony Atlas Johnny Rich Mike Enos Tiger Mask II Barry Horowitz Billy White Wolf Tony Anthony Pete: Barry Windham Butch Reed Jimmy Garvin Masked Superstar Steve Williams Bob Backlund Roddy Piper Bob Orton Jr Greg Valentine JJ Dillon Rick Martel Big Bubba Rogers Brian Blair Brad Rheingans Jim Cornette Stan Stasiak Marty Jannetty Tim Horner Dan Krofatt Doug Furnas Ivan Koloff Nikita Koloff Afa Sika Ricky Morton Robert Gibson Luke Williams Butch Miller Johnny Ace Shane Douglas MoneyP Dusty Rhodes (thanks again, Phantom) Andre the Giant (maybe not entirely appropriate for a Georgia wrestling circuit, but if he's available, I can't pass him up. I love Andre.) "Superstar" Billy Graham (one of my absolute favorites) "Dirty" Dutch Mantel "Playboy" Buddy Rose Big John Studd Tommy Rich Ray Stevens Johnny Valentine Paul Jones Dennis Condrey Randy Rose "Mad Dog" Buzz Sawyer Rocky Johnson Rufus R. Jones Jimmy Valiant Buddy Landell Bill Dundee Johnny Valiant Rex Moondog King Moondog Spot Moondog Spike Moondog Cujo Moondog Norvell Austin Billy Jack Haynes Sam Houston Cowboy Bill Watts Pork Chop Cash The Mongolian Stomper I know this may not be complete so let me know what is missing and I'll update the list We also decided that World title holders can still partake in their home Promotion as long as they are not scheduled to wrestle the same day they are scheduled to defend their title. Speaking of titles, we also decided that I will run the first rounds of the World Heavy, Junior and Tag Team tourney and post the results on the "NWA PPV" it will be stated that the preliminary matches took place earlier in the week at house shows. If there are any matches you want on the NWA Card please email me who will be wrestling and any outcome you wish to have. All World title matches will be 60 minutes long with DQ turned off and Unbooked. Any other matches on the card can be booked or unbooked. Again Individual Promotions can decide their champions by any means they feel like. So far I have entered in the NWA World Heavyweight tourney Dory Funk Rick Flair Harly Race Bob Bucklund Dust Rhodes Jack Brisco Bruno Sammartino* David Von Erich For the NWA World Junior weight Tourney Ricky Steamboat Brad Armstrong Randy Savage Tim Horner Johnny Valentine Kevin Von Erich Mike Graham For the NWA World Tag Team Tourney The Fantastics The Road Warriors The Original Midnight Express (Dennis Condrey/Randy Rose) The Rock and Roll Express The Midnight Express Freebirds Michael Hayes & Terry Gordy The spoilers # 1 & 2 I'm missing 1 HW entry and 2 Junior and 2 Tag Team entries. Since you need 8 for a tourney I will pick non drafted talent to fill the spots. My AIM is The Lazy Duk and my email is a_shaw7@hotmail.com
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 07:40:10 Just to officialize my roster, I'll claim five Moondogs (Rex, King, Spot, Spike and Cujo), drop the remaining one and add The Mongolian Stomper, if he's not already taken.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 11:15:25 done, to answer your question about who will face who for a world title, There will be a ranking system 1 threw 10 those ranked in the top 10 will get title shots.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 13:23:13 This is my offical roster after trades and drops during the draft Barry Windham Butch Reed Jimmy Garvin Masked Superstar Steve Williams Bob Backlund Roddy Piper Bob Orton Jr Greg Valentine JJ Dillon Rick Martel Big Bubba Rogers Brian Blair Brad Rheingans Jim Cornette Stan Stasiak Marty Jannetty Tim Horner Dan Krofatt Doug Furnas Ivan Koloff Nikita Koloff Afa Sika Ricky Morton Robert Gibson Luke Williams Butch Miller Johnny Ace Shane Douglas TheWave roster is incorrect as I have Williams and the Koloffs
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 13:24:49 Also, since we have 7 promotions each promotion should send 1 representitive from their region for each tourney and then Lazy only needs to pick 1 non signed wrestler. When can we start up our promotions?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 14:22:44 You can start anytime you want, I will run the tournys once I have all the players For Continuity in our NWA universe I guess we can start at Calender day and Month 1/1 78?
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 14:32:36 Hi fellow promoters, first thank you Meet For helping with the picks, I would like to make a small change with my roster, I have too many face's so I want to drop Hector Guerrero Tracy Smothers Steve Armstrong Chavo Guerrrero And replace them with Black Bart Rick Fuller Dick Murdoch The Grappler I would also like to nominate Jack Brisco for the World Title tourny.
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 14:42:43 Quick correction, I picked Black Bart and Phantom already has him, so instead I will pick Kim Duk, also I have a question are we Posting our cards on the circuit forum or do we have our own?
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 14:57:52 My noms for the tournaments: Heavyweight: Dusty Rhodes Jr. Heavyweight: Johnny Valentine Tag Team: The Original Midnight Express (Dennis Condrey/Randy Rose) I don't think Bruno Sammartino was picked by anyone! We can add him as an "eighth" for the heavyweight tournament.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:03:15 On 10/09/06 at 14:42:43, Magister369 wrote:Quick correction, I picked Black Bart and Phantom already has him, so instead I will pick Kim Duk, also I have a question are we Posting our cards on the circuit forum or do we have our own? Havent heard from Oliver yet so I guess untill them we can post in the circuit board
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:10:04 On 10/09/06 at 14:32:36, Magister369 wrote:Hi fellow promoters, first thank you Meet For helping with the picks, I would like to make a small change with my roster, I have too many face's so I want to drop Hector Guerrero Tracy Smothers Steve Armstrong Chavo Guerrrero And replace them with Black Bart Rick Fuller Dick Murdoch The Grappler I would also like to nominate Jack Brisco for the World Title tourny. What about Junior and Tag Team?
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:13:26 I guess until we're given our own board, we can just preface the threads with "NWA:" and then the name of the circuit. For instance, mine would be: NWA: Georgia Championship Wrestling And if/when we do get our own board we can just copy and paste the posts there.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:23:29 Good idea. Mine would be NWA: Northeast Championship Wrestling
meetzorak	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:50:15 FYI I droped Jues Strongbow and picked up Chris Youngblood.
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 15:51:52 So can Mags (or anyone else) provide me with the exports we're using? snapwilson at gmail.com MoneyP
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 17:20:02 For Tag i would nominate The spoilers # 1 & 2 for Jr. I would nominate Mike Graham also quick question how many wrestlers are we starting with 25 or 30? because i only have 24, which is fine for me, i can fill in as needed so no problem, also quetion about free agents, can i use free agents as filler workers on my house shows as needed?
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 17:24:03 I believe the rest of us have 30, so add six more if you desire. I can't imagine that there's a minimum requirement. Actually, I figured 30 was a bit too much for me storyline-wise at the moment, which is why I went with the passal of Moondogs. :)
TheWave	Posted on 10/09/06 at 17:41:18 From World Class, please include David Von Erich for the Heavyweight tournament; Kevin Von Erich for the Jr. Heavyweight tournament; and Freebirds Michael Hayes & Terry Gordy in the tag team tournament. (Late in the chat, I did mention Kerry Von Erich and the British Bulldogs for the heavyweight and tag tournies, but after more thought I'd rather the above instead, if it's not too late.) Sounds like we are free to drop and add whoever we want now, based on everyone else doing so? First come, first served, I guess? Will there be some kind of waiver wire, or when a territory releases a wrestler, is that also first come first served (to decide who else can then sign him)? Also, Magister, we finished up the draft last night by adding 6 wrestlers at a time to each territory; I think MeetZorak picked 6 guys for you, they just haven't been posted yet. Of course, you can choose whoever you want among those available.
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 17:52:24 On 10/09/06 at 17:41:18, TheWave wrote:Will there be some kind of waiver wire, or when a territory releases a wrestler, is that also first come first served (to decide who else can then sign him)? I don't know that there's any way to do it other than first-come first-served, unless we develop "standings" for our circuits. :) Maybe we can limit the wrestler pickups to one per week (real time) so that if you picked a guy up already, somebody else will have a crack?
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 17:54:59 ok would you belive i added Hector and chavo back to my roster. Hector Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jerry Stubbs Ken Mantell Thunderbolt Patterson this makes a total of 30 for my roster
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 18:16:44 My total roster for CWF: Magister369: Heel: Ron bass Spoiler# 1 Spoilers 2 Earnie Ladd Assassin # 1 Angelo mosca Ox Baker Robert Fuller Hiro Matsuda Kim Duk Ron Fuller Dick Murdoch The Grappler Jimmy golden FACE: BJ mulligan Bob Armstrong Jack Brisco Mr. Wrestling II Bugsy mcgraw Mike graham Steve keirn Jerry brisco Manny Fernandez Jay Youngblood Mark Youngblood Hector Guerrero Chavo Guerrero Jerry Stubbs Ken Mantell Thunderbolt Patterson
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 18:47:27 Dropping "Cowboy" Bill Watts and adding Dick the Bruiser, unless he's already taken. My roster, alphabetically: Andre the Giant Big John Studd Bill Dundee Billy Graham Billy Jack Haynes Buddy Landell Buzz Sawyer Dennis Condrey Dick the Bruiser Dusty Rhodes Dutch Mantel Jimmy Valiant Johnny Valentine Johnny Valiant Mongolian Stomper Moondog Cujo Moondog King Moondog Rex Moondog Spike Moondog Spot Norvell Austin Paul Jones Playboy Buddy Rose Porkchop Cash Randy Rose Ray Stevens Rocky Johnson Rufus R. Jones Sam Houston Tommy Rich
TheWave	Posted on 10/09/06 at 19:07:46 My final 6 weren't posted above either, I believe they were: Bad News Allen (Brown) Austin Idol Lord Humongous Hercules Hernandez Sting Tito Santana However, I had wanted to drop Bret Hart, so I'll do that now and pick up Jim Hellwig/Dingo Warrior. Thanks! Jonathan
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 19:15:09 For the Tag Team Tourny I have 2 Midnight Express one with Randy Rose and Dennis Condrey who was the 2nd one Stan Lane and Bobby Eaton? and for the Freebirds Michael Hays/Terry Gordy or Hays/Garvin
Magister369	Posted on 10/09/06 at 19:26:44 Usage of Managers: are we exlusivly using managers for our territories? except for maybe JJ dillon or Cornette, whom we know were exclusive to the Horsemen and the Midnights managers for the most part were used in all the territories i just dont want to step on any toes. I want to use Gary Hart and sir Oliver Humperdink
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 19:38:54 If nobody else wants him, Captain Lou would be fun as the Moondogs handler. That obviously wasn't his claim to fame, though, so if somebody else has a better use...
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 19:53:47 I drafted Cornette and Dillon as they had exports. I plan on using them as managers and would assume they are exclusive to my region unless I release them. On 10/09/06 at 19:26:44, Magister369 wrote:Usage of Managers: are we exlusivly using managers for our territories? except for maybe JJ dillon or Cornette, whom we know were exclusive to the Horsemen and the Midnights managers for the most part were used in all the territories i just dont want to step on any toes. I want to use Gary Hart and sir Oliver Humperdink
moneyp	Posted on 10/09/06 at 21:52:28 So how soon can we get this party started? What else do we need for the NWA Tournament?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/09/06 at 22:07:27 Im running the first rounds now and should have something posted tonight 2 Midnight Express one with Randy Rose and Dennis Condrey who was the 2nd one Stan Lane and Bobby Eaton? and for the Freebirds Michael Hays/Terry Gordy or Hays/Garvin
peteg9699	Posted on 10/09/06 at 22:43:17 Should be Hayes and Gordy as I have Garvin and not the other two
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/10/06 at 01:25:22 The champions are set and were up and running congrats to those who got titles. The ranking so far goes like this NWA World Heavyweight: Dory Funk Jr. 1. Dusty Rhodes 2. David Von Erich 3. Bob Backlund 4. Ric Flair 5. Jack Brisco NWA World Junior Weight: Kevin Von Erich 1.Tim Horner 2. Brad Armstrong 3. Randy Savage 4. Rick Steamboat 5. Johnny Valentine NWA World Tag Team: The Road Warriors 1. Viet Cong Express 2. Rock n' Roll Express 3. The Fantastics 4. The Original Midnight Express 5. The Spoilers Titles must be defended once per month. Schedule will be up in a few
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/10/06 at 02:10:18 I have to many heals would like to reyurn Anthony for Sammartino
TheWave	Posted on 10/10/06 at 03:23:48 On 10/09/06 at 19:53:47, peteg9699 wrote:I drafted Cornette and Dillon as they had exports. I plan on using them as managers and would assume they are exclusive to my region unless I release them. Selection of managers is something we never finalized. I assumed the only ones we actually drafted would be wrestlers, not managers (in other words, those you draft must be used as wrestlers). Otherwise, I would have taken the opportunity to draft a couple managers for myself. I figured we were going to have a 2nd draft for managers. So are we just posting what managers we want and try to work it out? If so, I'd like to use 2 male and 2 female managers: I prefer Missy Hyatt and Sunshine as the women. Ackbar was drafted, right? What about Sheik Adnan? Magister, I too have some interest in both Gary Hart and Humperdink, but I don't need both. Between the two, I'm more interested in Hart. If not Hart, Bobby Heenan would be next on my list. Let me know if we're doing this some other way, and let me know if someone I mentioned is someone you want. Thanks! Jonathan
TheWave	Posted on 10/10/06 at 03:44:37 By the way, how would you finish this sentence?: I'm most surprised that no one drafted... I have a particular wrestler in mind that I'm surprised no one took - a well-known, well-traveled monster heel.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/10/06 at 03:47:32 We should have talked about managers cause I would like to use freddie Blassie and heenen maybe 1 more maybe another draft? not sure
Magister369	Posted on 10/10/06 at 04:04:02 I really dont see a need for a draft, managers were used in all territories, example: Skandoe Akbar has stables in both WCCW and Mid-South at the same time, i dont see a problem if two promoters use the same manager.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/10/06 at 06:34:55 Dang, I'm gone for a day and all this happens. I'll have to catch up later and should have my first card by the weekend if not sooner.
TheWave	Posted on 10/10/06 at 15:25:29 I would prefer managers not be common to different territories; when I watched wrestling, that was pretty rare. Plus I think it helps your territory to have more of an identity if you can have unique, exclusive managers. But I do agree with Magister that we might not need a draft. So far, there hasn't been too much conflicting interests in managers. And we might be able to just work out those conflicts amongst ourselves. For instance, Magister, did you want both Humperdink and Hart? Or were you thinking of just using 1 or the other? If Magister gets Humperdink, I get Hart, and Lazy Duck gets Heenan, then we all get managers we want - though, granted, not necessarily all the managers we want. Or we could work it out differently.
TheWave	Posted on 10/10/06 at 15:28:50 And Lazy Duck, if you would rather have Volkoff over Zukhov, we can swap Russians, not a problem with me.
peteg9699	Posted on 10/10/06 at 15:42:16 I did draft Cornette and Dillon specifically to be managers. If I cannot use them as such could I pick up two more wrestlers? On 10/10/06 at 15:25:29, TheWave wrote:I would prefer managers not be common to different territories; when I watched wrestling, that was pretty rare. Plus I think it helps your territory to have more of an identity if you can have unique, exclusive managers. But I do agree with Magister that we might not need a draft. So far, there hasn't been too much conflicting interests in managers. And we might be able to just work out those conflicts amongst ourselves. For instance, Magister, did you want both Humperdink and Hart? Or were you thinking of just using 1 or the other? If Magister gets Humperdink, I get Hart, and Lazy Duck gets Heenan, then we all get managers we want - though, granted, not necessarily all the managers we want. Or we could work it out differently.
Magister369	Posted on 10/10/06 at 16:05:23 I can give you Hart, i will write him out of my territory on next weeks show.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/10/06 at 21:47:31 One last change to roster, returning Johnny Rich for Scott Puski thanks
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/11/06 at 00:32:29 The champions are set and were up and running congrats to those who got titles. The ranking so far goes like this NWA World Heavyweight: Dory Funk Jr. 1. Dusty Rhodes 2. David Von Erich 3. Bob Backlund 4. Ric Flair 5. Jack Brisco NWA World Junior Weight: Kevin Von Erich 1.Tim Horner 2. Brad Armstrong 3. Randy Savage 4. Rick Steamboat 5. Johnny Valentine NWA World Tag Team: The Road Warriors 1. Viet Cong Express 2. Rock n' Roll Express 3. The Fantastics 4. The Original Midnight Express 5. The Spoilers NWA World Title Schedule Ric Flair Dusty Rhodes Bob Backlund David Von Erich Jack Brisco NWA World Junior Weight Schedule Rick Steamboat Randy Savage Tim Horner Brad Armstrong Johnny Armstrong NWA World Tag Team Schedule The Fantastics The Spoilers Rock n Roll Express The Original Midnight Express Schedule will be updated after each defence.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/11/06 at 02:21:20 I know your probably tired of me but one more thing, the NWA PPV - does anyone have any problem with it being on TNM Calender 1/28/73? Location Madison Square Garden Name ? Discuss
megatron_85	Posted on 10/11/06 at 02:35:39 I'm very tired of you that's why i'm starting my own NWA with 1979 as the start date
Magister369	Posted on 10/11/06 at 02:55:44 Lazy dont worry about the starting date, as long as we put together a good card, so MSG is a good place for the first supercard.
Magister369	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:02:35 Any idea when we are going to get our own board? its going to be a little hard keeping track of all of our circuits in the general circuits forum.
megatron_85	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:04:05 lazy_duck i'm starting my own NWA (unless you bring back the AWA name & 1979 starting date)
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:08:46 Megatron, I'm sorry you feel that way but you were not at any of our drafts, nor did you vote on anything so I'm not sure why your so upset with me. Those of us who were at the meetings and disscussed what is going on have no issue witht he day/year change. I've emailed Oliver again about te board space, Hope to hear back from him soon
megatron_85	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:24:20 i also e-mailed oliver about my problem with YOUR NWA what do you think about that?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:39:16 Megatron, This thread is being used to conduct NWA business if you feel that you have something to contribute then we all would welcome the feedback, If not please don't post here. Anyway We need to have weekly or by weekly meetings to takle any issues and schedule upcomming events. What times are good for everyone Sundays?
Magister369	Posted on 10/11/06 at 03:51:47 Sundays are good for me
The Phantom	Posted on 10/11/06 at 05:04:11 Sundays or Mondays
Crpls	Posted on 10/11/06 at 06:16:01 On 10/11/06 at 03:24:20, megatron_85 wrote:i also e-mailed oliver about my problem with YOUR NWA what do you think about that? I think you waste precious oxygen.
Snabbit888	Posted on 10/11/06 at 08:20:19 On 10/11/06 at 03:24:20, megatron_85 wrote:i also e-mailed oliver about my problem with YOUR NWA what do you think about that? And what exactly do you expect Oliver to do? You're wasting your time. He's busy enough. Don't flood hs mailbox with inane nonsense.
moneyp	Posted on 10/11/06 at 17:53:11 I'm dropping Moondog Cujo and picking up the recently discarded Dirty White Boy, Tony Anthony. Now go read my thread. :)
The Phantom	Posted on 10/12/06 at 02:14:15 Some changes you guys need to make to your exports. Change The Genuis to Lanny Poffo, make his nick Leaping and his short name to L. Poffo. Change Rick Steiner's short name to R. Steiner.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/12/06 at 04:16:24 Do we have an official weight for the Junior title? I want to setup the Weight Class Wizard correctly.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/12/06 at 05:35:40 I believe it's 230lbs max?
moneyp	Posted on 10/12/06 at 15:46:26 Just a note. We're off to a cabin for the weekend. No internet, so I won't be online. I might be back by Sunday night in time for the PPV chat, but if not, I'd like for my wrestlers to participate in three matches on the card against wrestlers from other circuits. Leave me some opponents and I'll fill out the details on my end either Sunday night or Monday. Grazi!
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/12/06 at 16:54:39 dropping jerry blackwell and the general for vietcong express 1 and 2. will change Schedule thanks
moneyp	Posted on 10/12/06 at 19:40:50 Whoah Nelly, I need to pick up Crusher Blackwell. I'll drop Moondog King for him.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/12/06 at 20:31:40 On 10/12/06 at 19:40:50, moneyp wrote:Whoah Nelly, I need to pick up Crusher Blackwell. I'll drop Moondog King for him. liked himn but cpu;g,y find a place yet
TheWave	Posted on 10/13/06 at 03:49:30 On 10/12/06 at 04:16:24, The Phantom wrote:Do we have an official weight for the Junior title? I want to setup the Weight Class Wizard correctly. I thought back in the day it was around 240 and under? I likely can't be very active in ongoing chatroom discussions. I'll try to contribute as I can on the forums, and trust you all to make good decisions. Jonathan
TheWave	Posted on 10/13/06 at 03:52:57 On 10/11/06 at 02:21:20, lazy_duck wrote:I know your probably tired of me but one more thing, the NWA PPV - does anyone have any problem with it being on TNM Calender 1/28/73? Location Madison Square Garden Name ? Discuss How often will we be having PPVs by the way? Also, I saw the schedule, but when does Kevin Von Erich need to defend the Jr. Heavyweight title? Only once per month? At least once per month? Also, can he defend it within his own (my) territory, or do we stick with the official NWA rankings only? Or can he defend it as long as matches are booked for him to retain? Just trying to figure out if I can book angles within the territory around that title, or whether I should steer clear. Thanks! Jonathan
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 04:22:22 I think there will probably no more then 4 a year no including the ones each promotion puts on. For the World Titles, I believe it has to befended at least once a month You can have angles with it but since it is a world title it has to be defended against the Next scheduled wrestler. If you work an angle within your promotion and the person looses the belt he will have to resume the schedule Am I missiong anyhing guys if so please correct me
The Phantom	Posted on 10/13/06 at 04:51:08 Aren't we suppose to agree on who the next title holder will be? Or are we doing unbooked World title matches? And it should be defended once a month but only the next official person in line for a title defense counts. If Kevin defened the Junior title in his territory against an unranked opponent within a month but failed to defend against the ranked person, then he would be stripped of his title. I'm pretty sure this is how it worked. Where do the ranked matches take place, on the opponents home turf? I assume that people will go on and off the rankings for the titles but how do we decide that?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 05:00:25 We are doing unbooked World title matches and the title match can take place at either a NWA PPV or at any other event that you and the title holder agrees on. All World title matches are to be un booked No DQ 60 minute time limit. Were using the honor system on match running. Title holders most defend the title against the next scheduled wrestler. but if you use the World title in any angle in your promotion outside of the next scheduled wrestler and he is booked to lose the belt, it would probably be best to shoot all of us a message to make sure that would be cool. If accepted that wrestler would have to resume the schedule For example: If Kevin defened the Junior title in his territory against an unranked opponent within a month and lost the Wrestler that won would have to fight the next scheduled wrestler before the end of the calander month or he will lose the title. If Kevin defended the title against someone who is not ranked and wins he still has to wrestle the next scheduled wrestler before month end.
The Phantom	Posted on 10/13/06 at 05:03:01 Got it, thanks.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 05:06:45 On 10/12/06 at 05:35:40, lazy_duck wrote:I believe it's 230lbs max? Corrected 240lbs
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 08:07:01 Hey Everyone, Just wanted to let you know Oliver has set us up with a forum in the Circuit ares called NWA Feel free to post all your NWA cirucits there
The Phantom	Posted on 10/13/06 at 08:41:00 Sweet, can you make a sticky topic for all the rules?
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 08:49:29 Yea should be no problem
Magister369	Posted on 10/13/06 at 13:45:25 Quick question, i thought all World title matchs were going to be booked unless we all agreed that the title change could take place with a unbooked match at a big supershow, otherwise we are going to have alot of champions, and we need a stable champion
TheWave	Posted on 10/13/06 at 17:47:33 On 10/13/06 at 13:45:25, Magister369 wrote:Quick question, i thought all World title matchs were going to be booked unless we all agreed that the title change could take place with a unbooked match at a big supershow, otherwise we are going to have alot of champions, and we need a stable champion Yeah, if all NWA title matches are unbooked, the belts will change hands pretty frequently and there will be upsets.
lazy_duck	Posted on 10/13/06 at 17:51:30 I thought we agreed on non booked Title matches. If not then we wouldnt have added the stipulation that all matches be 60 minutes no DQ. if matches were booked then it wouldn't have mattered what the time limit was or if DQ were on or not. I've run unbooked title matched in my own fed and after 50 cards the title only changed twice so it's possibel to have stable champs unbooked. But if you want to go booked we can bring it up at the chat sunday
Mr._Mangual	Posted on 10/15/06 at 13:11:55 I want to run Canada like the old Stampede days. They were part of the NWA til 1981.
Dominus	Posted on 10/16/06 at 10:02:33 Wow! 19 pages! I am really interested in this, have you guys started it already? I'll have to go thru & see if I can find out any more info. How many people have signed up?
meetzorak	Posted on 10/16/06 at 16:29:17 On 10/16/06 at 10:02:33, Dominus wrote:Wow! 19 pages! I am really interested in this, have you guys started it already? I'll have to go thru & see if I can find out any more info. How many people have signed up? Yeah, we started. If you're interested in being in the NWA you would have to ask Lazy.
cards2006	Posted on 10/27/06 at 14:31:20 Can I get a copy of the edits you all are using for the fed? I would love to have these wrestlers! :) My e-mail is in my profile. Thanks!

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