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Pat Robinson is mind blowingly stupid:

"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."

On 01/24/06 at 20:06:07, 91 wrote:Yes, because the Christians are going through a far worse experience than concentration camps and mass genocide. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

On 01/24/06 at 20:37:01, Captain Tagon wrote:

Kind of like they did in the first and second centuries?

On 01/24/06 at 21:01:11, Snabbit888 wrote:

Perhaps, but they're certainly not suffering now.  Not to any sort of dramatic extent anyway.

On 01/24/06 at 21:01:11, Snabbit888 wrote:

Perhaps, but they're certainly not suffering now. Not to any sort of dramatic extent anyway.

Unless Bush's troops are secretly crucifying Christians in their hidden death camps.

On 01/24/06 at 20:37:01, Captain Tagon wrote:on Today at 2:06pm, 91 wrote:
Yes, because the Christians are going through a far worse experience than concentration camps and mass genocide. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

Kind of like they did in the first and second centuries?

On 01/24/06 at 23:34:30, Psymin1 wrote:


I dunno, I wouldn't put ANYTHING past him, anymore.


~Branden

Yes, because Bush is pure evil.  *yawn*

On 01/25/06 at 02:53:04, Unright wrote:

Uh.. No. Even in the first and second centuries Christians did not suffer near what Jews suffered at the hands of the Nazis.

And Pat Robertson is the biggest hypocritical piece of shit on the planet today. I easily hate Robertson more than Bush. And I hate Bush.

On 01/25/06 at 06:04:56, Snabbit888 wrote:I think the point being missed here is that Robertson is saying Christians are suffering NOW, and um... what?  If there's any religious group that doesn't suffer in the US, it's Christians.  Christians get just about anything they want, no matter how misguided it is.  Gays can't get married and evolution isn't taught in all schools.  Yeah, Christians are suffering these days.

On 01/25/06 at 06:07:59, Captain Tagon wrote:

Except evolution is taught in schools.

On 01/25/06 at 06:02:28, Captain Tagon wrote:

Because being fed to lions is awesome and fun.

On 01/25/06 at 06:02:28, Captain Tagon wrote:Because being fed to lions is awesome and fun.

And don't event alk about what the Nazis did to the Jews without bringing up what the Russians did to their own people multiple times over.

On 01/24/06 at 05:34:05, Psymin1 wrote:This relates because It was a link on Americamamushi's LJ.  

On 01/25/06 at 12:32:43, Unright wrote:

Yes, I'm aware of what happened to Christians during the 1st  century AD. And no, it doesn't compare to concentration camps.  Nobody is saying that Christians have had a painless 2000+ years during the course of their existence, but I am saying that they've never come even remote close to the mass persecution that the Jewish people endured during and before WWII.

And what the hell does Russia have to do with anything? Are you just trying to downplay the Holocaust for some odd reason?

On 01/25/06 at 06:02:28, Captain Tagon wrote:

Because being fed to lions is awesome and fun.

Just for the record, it had to have been a link in someone on my friends list's journal. I don't do politic stuff in my journal. Last thing I want is my name dragged through a political discussion/argument.

And he shouldn't have won the first time? Over half of those who voted disagree.

You make it sound like he's so evil that he's like, "How can I murder tons of troops and get away with it? I KNOW! A war!"

It isn't an odd reason. It's a plea for historical accuracy and honesty. Hitler killed millions of Jews in concentration camps. The Russians killed multiple times that many of their own people in concentration camps, AT THE SAME TIME. And no one talks about it, because the Russians were on our side in WWII.

On 01/25/06 at 19:19:20, Captain Tagon wrote:It isn't an odd reason. It's a plea for historical accuracy and honesty. Hitler killed millions of Jews in concentration camps. The Russians killed multiple times that many of their own people in concentration camps, AT THE SAME TIME. And no one talks about it, because the Russians were on our side in WWII.

On 01/26/06 at 00:43:50, Snabbit888 wrote:
1) If so many of our generation wanted Bush to not be elected, they should have went out and voted.  If you don't go out and vote and an "evil man" wins, you have no one to blame but yourself.  You'd be surprised how many people I have to slap who are like, "Bush is evil!"  Did you vote for Kerry?  "Well, no.  I didn't vote."  Shut your fucking mouth. :)

On 01/26/06 at 00:43:50, Snabbit888 wrote:2) What makes American lives more important that the lives of the Iraqis who were suffering/being murdered under Saddam's regime?

On 01/26/06 at 00:43:50, Snabbit888 wrote:3) I am of the belief that as the most powerful nation in the world, it is our responsibility to police the world.  Sure, I'm not a big fan of this Iraq War either and don't think we've went about it the way we should, but (and note I can't name any specific examples right now) I'm sure there are many potential conflicts that have never taken place because of the US being "bullies."  Like if it wasn't for us, I can't possibility imagine Israel not being completely destroyed by now.  It's our responsibility to be the police officers, because what you're suggesting sounds like "Every country for himself!" and if we do that, it's my opinion that the amount of innocent lives being lost would increase exponentially.

on Today at 6:43pm, Snabbit888 wrote:
1) If so many of our generation wanted Bush to not be elected, they should have went out and voted.  If you don't go out and vote and an "evil man" wins, you have no one to blame but yourself.  You'd be surprised how many people I have to slap who are like, "Bush is evil!"  Did you vote for Kerry?  "Well, no.  I didn't vote."  Shut your fucking mouth.  



What about non-Americans and convicting felons saying "Bush is evil"?  

on Today at 6:43pm, Snabbit888 wrote:2) What makes American lives more important that the lives of the Iraqis who were suffering/being murdered under Saddam's regime?  



Are you suggesting that no Iraqis have suffered/been murdered since the US invaded? Or that no Iraqis will suffer/be murdered under a representative form of goverment?

on Today at 6:43pm, Snabbit888 wrote:3) I am of the belief that as the most powerful nation in the world, it is our responsibility to police the world.  Sure, I'm not a big fan of this Iraq War either and don't think we've went about it the way we should, but (and note I can't name any specific examples right now) I'm sure there are many potential conflicts that have never taken place because of the US being "bullies."  Like if it wasn't for us, I can't possibility imagine Israel not being completely destroyed by now.  It's our responsibility to be the police officers, because what you're suggesting sounds like "Every country for himself!" and if we do that, it's my opinion that the amount of innocent lives being lost would increase exponentially.  



Y'know.. China is looking to become a massive powerhouse in about a decade or two. Will it then also be China's duty to become the world's police officer?

Are you really saying that might makes right?

And to an extent I am, yes.  I'm not saying we have the right to go invade any country we want because of them not following our policies to a tee (and before anyone says that we already do, pull back the hyperbole a bit), but if us having big bad weapons keeps North Korea from attacking whomever it wants, what's wrong with that?

On 01/26/06 at 00:43:50, Snabbit888 wrote:Psymin - I have a couple rebuttal points.

1) If so many of our generation wanted Bush to not be elected, they should have went out and voted.  If you don't go out and vote and an "evil man" wins, you have no one to blame but yourself.  You'd be surprised how many people I have to slap who are like, "Bush is evil!"  Did you vote for Kerry?  "Well, no.  I didn't vote."  Shut your fucking mouth. :)

2) What makes American lives more important that the lives of the Iraqis who were suffering/being murdered under Saddam's regime?

3) I am of the belief that as the most powerful nation in the world, it is our responsibility to police the world.  Sure, I'm not a big fan of this Iraq War either and don't think we've went about it the way we should, but (and note I can't name any specific examples right now) I'm sure there are many potential conflicts that have never taken place because of the US being "bullies."  Like if it wasn't for us, I can't possibility imagine Israel not being completely destroyed by now.  It's our responsibility to be the police officers, because what you're suggesting sounds like "Every country for himself!" and if we do that, it's my opinion that the amount of innocent lives being lost would increase exponentially.