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UnrightPosted on 04/19/05 at 03:15:49

What moves are standard for every wrestler in TNM?  By that I mean, even though you may not put moves like punch & kick, the wrestlers still execute those moves. Does someone have an idea of which moves are automatic for everyone?
americamamushiPosted on 04/19/05 at 05:24:26

irish whip
phudjiePosted on 04/19/05 at 11:42:55

.....I can't speak for everybody here - but when I make an export -(I make all my own - I don't import anymore)-
they all pretty much start the same way. Everybody geta a clothesline - some punches and kicks - depending on style - a bodyslam - a backdrop suplex - a hiptoss - a back elbow - and a roll-up and an elbowdrop - that's usually enough for the bare minimum of 10 moves required to make an export and then I build on that whenever/however I can.....
John ProulxPosted on 04/20/05 at 01:40:12

I know everyone can do a shoulderblock. Other than kick, punch, and "hit" (and, yeah, technically, the Irish whip), that's the only one I know.
Some GuyPosted on 04/20/05 at 14:14:18

the backdrop
John ProulxPosted on 04/20/05 at 22:47:28

Is that true? Even if you don't add "backdrop" to a guy's moveset, he'll do it? I mean, other than as a counter to other moves, of course.

I'm thinking there might be some confusion over what was asked.
phudjiePosted on 04/21/05 at 02:09:10

.....yeah - I think I missunderstood - but yeah - it was very late when I read it - or very early - depending on your point of view, as for the original question - I'm not 100% - I think it's just a couple of simple strikes - but I haven't really taken note of this so yeah - sorry I missunderstood and tried to help - I'll try not to let it happen again.....
UnrightPosted on 04/21/05 at 03:00:21

No, these are great answers. In paticular the shoulderblock was one I always wondered if I needed to add it to a moveset or not.
Some GuyPosted on 04/21/05 at 04:15:37

On 04/20/05 at 22:47:28, John Proulx wrote:Is that true? Even if you don't add "backdrop" to a guy's moveset, he'll do it?
Correct.
John ProulxPosted on 04/22/05 at 21:11:29

On 04/21/05 at 04:15:37, Some Guy wrote:

Correct.
I'd like a confirmation on this from Oliver, because if this is true, then there's no need to include backdrop in anyone's moveset (but would still need to be in the move listing because it's a default counter for a LOT of moves) , and I will adjust my custom wrestlers accordingly.
rey619Posted on 04/22/05 at 21:38:49

I think the manual specifically specifies that you shouldn't include backdrop and other defensive moves such as backslide.
americamamushiPosted on 04/22/05 at 21:50:35

I think alot of people have trouble accessing the manual.  I know I for one can't get to it anymore (not that I personally need to see it) and I remember others saying they had the same problem with trying to open it.
VertigoPosted on 04/22/05 at 22:54:12

At any decent wrestling training facility, the very first things wrestlers are taught are basic chain including arm wringers, hammerlocks, side headlocks, top wristlocks... and basic moves like shoulderblock, hiptoss, armdrag, bodyslam, drop toe-hold, headlock takeover, japanese arm drag, backdrop...

However, even though most known wrestlers are probably capable of doing this stuff, some don't... like New Jack won't be doing many armdrags...

So I don't know if there are standard moves to assign wrestlers... even some wrestling don't throw punches, instead they use forearms.
John ProulxPosted on 04/23/05 at 02:38:47

On 04/22/05 at 21:38:49, rey619 wrote:I think the manual specifically specifies that you shouldn't include backdrop and other defensive moves such as backslide.
This *sort of* makes sense, except that I've seen both of these moves used as an offensive maneuver. The backdrop (or, as you were more likely to hear at the time "back body drop") was especially popular as an offensive move in the '80s WWF. I've seen the backslide used most often in situations where a babyface is taking a beating, and is trying to get a cheap win (and get the crowd thinking that their hero has a chance). So, yeah, you might want to avoid them as a general rule, but there are cases where you'll want them in there as offensive moves.
Some GuyPosted on 04/29/05 at 20:55:34

If you add the backdrop to you moveset, make it the first move, that way it always is done from the ropes. Can also use it as a cross corner move, ie flair getting backrop after he gets thrown into the turnbuckle.
americamamushiPosted on 04/29/05 at 21:35:05

The 'first move' rule was done away with for SE.