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mikeyPosted on 07/15/03 at 16:25:46

Just  thought I'd start this so we can keep it all in one place. Place any thoughts/solutions/comments relating to the easter eggs here.  Obvious if you don't want any spoilers, don't read the thread ;)
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/15/03 at 17:26:38

Just want to say that the version with the Easter Egg code enabled will go to the beta testers today and to all registered users of TNM 7 SE tomorrow...

The hunt is ON :)
Snabbit888Posted on 07/15/03 at 22:55:22

Question Oliver, when you find an Easter Egg, will TNM prompt you by letting you know you have?

-Nubbs
LillaThrillaPosted on 07/16/03 at 00:39:21

Oliver sayz yes, it will tell you when its unlocked and tell you how to use it.
LillaThrillaPosted on 07/16/03 at 00:53:38

My thoughts...

#1 unlocks booking interference in an battle royal. how? something relating to a PPV match in 1993...

#2 probably either a 6-Pack Match, Elimination Chamber, or 6-man Hell in a Cell. how? predator = Hunter Hearst Helmsley or Steve Austin, cook = Rock or Booker T or someone from the WWF cookbook. My off the wall suggestion was something involving John Tetna, who was a cook (Snakeburgers!) and a predator (as The Shark in WCW).

#3 dont really know my WWF history well enough here. suggestions involve interference, DiBiase, Andre, and Hogan.

#4 Hogan vs The Rock, relating to their match at Wrestlemania.

#5 Scott Hall is involved definitely. Someone suggested Larry Zybysko...

#6 "red-handed" seems to be a major clue but has stumped everyone so far. Only 3 wrestlers have ever been in one in 16 years. Undertaker is definitely one of them. Someone suggested Kane and HHH as well and it unlocks an Inferno Match...

#7 Fantastics vs Midnight Express, possibly in a cage match with no cage escapes. Either unlocks the Skywalkers match or more likely having pinfalls-only cage matches go outside the cage.

#8 Big Egg. Captains = Mike Rotundo and Lou Albano. More likely though, it involves Hogan (w/ Elizabeth?) or Ultimate Warrior vs Randy Savage w/ Sherri. What it unlocks...managers turning on the wrestler they manage maybe?
kvaderPosted on 07/16/03 at 00:56:00

Damn you Oliver!  >:(  You horrible riddle maker!

Should be fun trying to get them right, though.
kvaderPosted on 07/16/03 at 01:01:21

Maybe instead of Zybysko, it's Sting?  Dropping like flies...dropping from the ceiling....Scorpion Death Drop.
JQuackPosted on 07/16/03 at 01:11:21

As far as the Hall vs Zbysko is: I know that everytime Nash and Hall were around, Nash was bombing referee's like crazy. However, I haven't been able to find the right match yet.

#3: Refers to Wrestlemania 4: Savage vs Dibiase in the final round of the tournament for the World title. Hogan and Andre the Giant were involved on interference...but I haven't gotten  the match right yet.

Maybe the matches have to have a certain finish to unlock the Egg?
Tom_ImpPosted on 07/16/03 at 03:08:52

On 07/16/03 at 01:11:21, JQuack wrote: Maybe the matches have to have a certain finish to unlock the Egg?
Oh man, I sure hope not. Otherwise that will be almost impossible to reproduce.  
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/16/03 at 05:10:54

#7 Fantastics vs Midnight Express, possibly in a cage match with no cage escapes.  Either unlocks the Skywalkers match or more likely having pinfalls-only cage matches go outside the cage.
In the hint for Easter Egg #7 Oliver specifically notes it involves a cage with none of the competitors in it.

In the Great American Bash 1988, The Midnight Express beat the Fantastics to win the Tag Titles. It was a regular tag match but with one very big stipulation. ME manager Jim Cornette was locked inside a cage suspended above the ring.

The match has the cage but the wrestlers aren't in it.

I'm almost certain that is what the clue refers to.

#4 is definitely Rock-Hogan

#5 has me stumped. True Sting did drop from the ceiling but he didn't death drop the refs. It also says "wrestler constanly lost due to the others interference." The key word does seem to be "Razor", which does suggest Hall. Could Oliver be throwing out a false clue here to lead us off course? Does Razor-Sharp thinking refer to someone else? Maybe "The Genius" Lanny Poffo had a big fued in WCW that I missed  :)

My intial thought on the Big Egg #8 with Oliver mentioning Kings and Queens has me thinking "Macho King" Randy Savage w/Queen Sherri vs Ultimate Warrior from WM VII in the retirement match.

This is going to be fun figuring it all out!
Critic_of_the_DawnPosted on 07/16/03 at 05:48:57

Here's a thought.  Since #8 is the Master Easter Egg, could it possibly involve the Gobbeldy Gooker (king of the bad gimmicks, exploded forth from a big egg) vs. "Mean" Gene Okerlund (King of the interviewers)?

Gooker was actually Hector Guerrero, if I recall correctly.  So there's your wrestler.  And Gene Okerlund was definately not a wrestler.

;D ;D ;D ;D

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/16/03 at 08:19:04

Easter Egg #1 is something that has been missing from some of the matches but been available for all others. Ten years ago, there was a giant pay-per-view where a wrestler debuted and completely destroyed the opponent he'd be hooked up with in the months to come.
In the 1993 Royal Rumble Harvey Whippleman debuted Giant Gonzales. Gonzales, (remember that hideous muscle suit he wore?) was not a participant in the Royal Rumble but he attacked, squashed and eliminated the Undertaker. UT and GG worked a program until the blow off at SummerSlam 1993.

This must be the "...giant PPV..." Oliver is hinting at.  
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/16/03 at 11:28:11

On 07/16/03 at 01:11:21, JQuack wrote:Maybe the matches have to have a certain finish to unlock the Egg?
Yes, in some instances they have to have certain finishes... and they always have something to do with the Easter Egg you're unlocking or the real match that triggers it.
kvaderPosted on 07/16/03 at 16:23:52

#4 is The Rock defeating Hollywood Hogan with the Rock Bottom.  It's probably the easiest of the bunch, IMO
91Posted on 07/17/03 at 00:23:35

#2 is the sort of one I should be able to get, but it absolutely has me stumped. Jesse Ventura was in predator but I can't think of any one time gimmick matches he was in.

As for #8, ultimate challenge might refer to the Warrior. Kings and queens might suggest chess but more likely involves royalty (Savage, Lawler, Race, uhhh... Duggan). Then again, maybe it's something to do with Vince McMahon.

And #5 and #6 are apparently loosely connected. Red-handed might be Kane. As noted, an inferno match might be the answer as it fits the description, but how is that the natural reaction to #5 (which is clearly a WCW angle)?
91Posted on 07/17/03 at 00:29:54

Oh yeah, #6 aint possibly a buried alive match maybe?

**edit** Complete tangent here. #5 - razor-sharp, razors are used to blade, something to do with blading, which leads to #6 being a first blood match, the KOTR 98 one involved Kane and Taker, red handed might mean bleeding a lot.... my god, what a load of toss. Ignore everything I just wrote.
AllPowerfulGARTHPosted on 07/17/03 at 14:51:38

Thoughts on #2...

If it IS a six-pack match, predator could also refer to Davey Boy Smith, a.k.a. the British Bulldog.

And as long as we're talking about dogs...only one time in wrestling history, not alone in the ring, one a predator and one a cook...I might just be insane but is anyone else thinking Al Snow, Big Boss Man, Kennel From Hell?  No?  Well then I'll keep thinking...
mowieradPosted on 07/17/03 at 18:52:12

Uh just out of curiousity, what year did "The Giant" debut?  there was a big thing about him being the return of Andre and he terrorized Hogan horribly...not that every wrestler with a name hasn't.  It seems to me this was before 93, but I could be wrong since wrestling nostalgia isn't the hobby it used to be for me.
EDS_TeiohPosted on 07/17/03 at 19:10:31

I had #2 figured as the abysmal Chamber of Horrors Match from Halloween Havoc '91. Abby the butcher is the cook, and the predator.....eh....well Cactus Jack maybe?


ED'S Teioh
91Posted on 07/17/03 at 19:57:12

On 07/17/03 at 18:52:12, mowierad wrote:Uh just out of curiousity, what year did "The Giant" debut? there was a big thing about him being the return of Andre and he terrorized Hogan horribly...not that every wrestler with a name hasn't. It seems to me this was before 93, but I could be wrong since wrestling nostalgia isn't the hobby it used to be for me.
The Giant, as in Paul Wight? That was 1995.
91Posted on 07/17/03 at 20:05:48

On 07/17/03 at 19:10:31, EDS_Teioh wrote:and the predator.....eh....well Cactus Jack maybe?
If Oliver intended to be VERY long winded and cryptic, that would work. Arnold Schwarzenegger starred in The Predator and also starred in The Villain, which also starred Kirk Douglas playing Cactus Jack Slade. Or am I WAYYYYYYY off?
mowieradPosted on 07/17/03 at 20:29:35

hehehe, well we're all going to go insane this way.  If I haven't already got there.  I'm gonna start with #1 and work on it (if someone has it all figured out you could save me a lot of work here :P

Here's what happened in 93 that I think could be relevant

Undertaker defeated Giant Gonzalez (El Gigante)
Lex Lugar made his wwf debut and although a heel at first battled Yokozuna and ended with bodyslamming him on a aircraft carrier (not a destroyer which would have made it so easy)

Owen hart debut (was blue blazer previously) and battled with Bret Hart (who was also battling Jerry Lawler)

and last but not least 1-2-3 kid got his big break when beating Ted Dibiase.

If this helps anyone please let me know.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/17/03 at 20:51:33

Guys, you're thinking in a far too complicated and contrived way... I'm a devout follower of the K.I.S.S. principle :)
mowieradPosted on 07/17/03 at 21:19:27

Rock and roll all night and party everyday  ???

I have to think complicated, I have a high IQ that only exists to think outlandish...
rptDX316Posted on 07/17/03 at 22:04:26

On 07/17/03 at 20:51:33, Oliver Copp wrote:Guys, you're thinking in a far too complicated and contrived way... I'm a devout follower of the K.I.S.S. principle :)
If you drop our character after one match, we'll sue you?
91Posted on 07/17/03 at 22:11:32

He means 'Keep it Simple, Stupid"...... HEY! Did he just call me stupid? Anyway, considering the clues are so un-simple in the first place....  >:(

Does 'cook' refer to the time the Hart Foundation made German sausages on SNME?
ImpactXtremePosted on 07/17/03 at 22:23:40

What if #8 is The Harts vs The King and his knights?
rptDX316Posted on 07/17/03 at 22:28:31

For Number 2, I'm beginning to wonder if the "perfect team" bit is a clue.  Could Curt Hennig be involved somewhere?  
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/17/03 at 22:48:08

On 07/17/03 at 22:11:32, 91 wrote:He means 'Keep it Simple, Stupid"...... HEY! Did he just call me stupid? Anyway, considering the clues are so un-simple in the first place.... >:(

Does 'cook' refer to the time the Hart Foundation made German sausages on SNME?
No, it's far more recent than that particularly embarrassing episode of SNME.

Also, nobody was being called stupid :rolleyes:
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/18/03 at 00:48:30

Don't let all the wild guesses get to you Oliver.

After all, by this time everyone has figured out that "one a predator, one a cook" refers to Mini Venum vs Mini Calo and it unlocks the long anticipated Monster Truck Sumo match from Halloween Havoc 1995.  ;)

On a serious note I'm beginning to doubt I've installed everything right, even though I followed your instructions. Is there a way you can give us a description of what happens when you find an egg?

LillaThrilla said you confirmed that there would be a message. Is this immediately after the match or when the card is completed?

Thanks. In the meantime I will keep hunting.
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 01:09:24

Two questions, not that they will help much, but it's been bothering me all day.

1. Do the wrestlers involved have to be known as the wrestlers from the match (ex: Will Hollywood Hogan or Hulk Hogan work?)

2.  Is there a way to bring up the list of wrestlers to add, or if you don't have the wrestlers needed in your list are you forced to go looking for import files?
JQuackPosted on 07/18/03 at 02:08:55

Since we're pretty much convinced that one of the easter egg's unlocks the Six Pack Challenge (well, at least at this point: I am) I decided to post this little bit of info for you.

Triple H beat The Rock, Mankind, Kane, The Big Show & The British Bulldog in a "Six Pack Challenge Match" (20:28) with Steve Austin as the special referee to win the vacant WWF World Title when The Rock was pinned.


Now, I also found this match on a website as well, since it's pretty much the same thing (a six way match), it might come in handy as well.

WWF World Champion Kurt Angle beat Steve Austin, The Rock, Triple H, The Undertaker & Rikishi Phatu (32:14) in a "Six Way Hell In A Cell Match" when The Rock was pinned.

JQuackPosted on 07/18/03 at 03:53:23

Ok, I just began to feel like a goof.

I checked the downloads, and Beta 15 (not 14) has the eggs in it. Which explains why I couldn't unlock any. If you got Beta 14, go d/l the new one (otherwise, I'm just a big moron)

I did unlock Egg #4 (check below for spoiler of how to and what you get) and I can tell you that right after the match ends, before the result is shown is when you get the message.













Here comes the spoiler if you didn't already know:


Rock vs Hogan: Rock wins with Rock Bottom. The egg has to deal with the fact that even though Hogan was technically "the heel" the crowd cheered him. Tnm7 SE now has a Wrestler Specific Crowd reaction option. Pretty Cool.
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:00:51

Well, you have made me feel like a goof JQuack.

I've run that match several times and the crowd cheered Hogan. I never noticed it as anything unusal though. I just went over my head that fans were cheering the heel.

I was looking for a handshake. :-

Thanks for pointing out what happens!
JQuackPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:06:34

No trouble. That was the easy one though, the rest are toughies.

Another thing to think about for #2 for the rest of us: Predator is also another word for "Hunter"........

mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:11:22

Okay, and if that doesn't work to open the egg?  What could possibly have been done wrong?
JQuackPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:19:42

On 07/18/03 at 05:11:22, mowierad wrote:Okay, and if that doesn't work to open the egg? What could possibly have been done wrong?
Double Check your downloads, make sure you have Beta 15. There is also some extra file you must download into the data directory, otherwise no eggs. Otherwise, you might want to Book the match, like I did. I booked it by Pinfall/The Rock/with Finisher (I picked a random time, and it unlocked just fine)
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:21:18

Ah that might be it, I might need the extra file....now I have to figure out all the matches I tried today to open them :)  I love misery....I'll assume this file is in the download section somewhere, if I'm wrong on this please let me know.
JQuackPosted on 07/18/03 at 05:23:38

Beta Testers section. Where you get the SE stuff
PeteF3Posted on 07/18/03 at 06:19:12

I've decided to hold out until Second Edition is actually released to download anything (since my old TNM is on a wimpy dialup computer and I don't like downloading on it), so I haven't had the chance to actually verify anything.

That said...#1 is most assuredly interference in a Battle Royal.  Not sure how you'd book it--I'd assume it only requires the Undertaker to be a part of a Royal Rumble. At that point I'm guessing you'll be asked if you want interference. Type in Giant Gonzalez and you should be set.

I'm completely stumped on #2, but I really hope it isn't a Kennel From Hell Match.  I don't think Oliver would waste his time on such, either.

#3 sounds like Savage/DiBiase from WM4 when Hogan interfered.  I'm guessing it covers Dusty Finishes for certain matches that involve interference.

#4 has already been answered.

#5 is surely a match between Scott Hall and somebody else, possibly Larry Zbyszko.  It refers to Hall constantly abusing and attacking referees during matches.  Hall was actually rolled up and pinned in two matches because he kept abusing the refs.  The opponents in question were Chris Jericho and Hector Garza, so they may be possibilities.

The "natural reaction" in #6?  The "special" somebody is a special referee, who can attack the wrestlers.  Sounds like Undertaker/Kane from Judgment Day '99 to me, when guest ref Steve Austin laid out both men and counted them both down.

#7 was also pretty much confirmed.  Bobby Fulton &  Tommy Rogers vs. Eaton & Lane, for you young'uns who don't remember the Fantastics...

#8 has me completely stumped...possible participants that come to mind are the Ultimate Warrior, Jerry Lawler, Harley Race, Mike Rotunda, Lou Albano, and Dick Murdoch.
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 06:44:15

#6 has been opened. credit on how goes to the previous message, although his other ideas although possibly close didn't unlock anything.  Could just be my setting up the matches wrong, or getting the wrong results :)  

My thoughts on #1 are different then everyone else's apparant ones.  Didn't 1-2-3 Kid come into existance after beating Razor Ramon, who later hung around with him when he beat the likes of Ted DiBiase?
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/18/03 at 07:17:11

The reason many of us are convinced that #1 is a battle royal with Undertaker in it is....

In the 1993 Royal Rumble Harvey Whippleman debuted Giant Gonzales. Gonzales, was not a participant in the Royal Rumble but he attacked, squashed and eliminated the Undertaker.
UT and GG worked the program until the blow off at SummerSlam 1993.

Here is Oliver's hint

Easter Egg #1 is something that has been missing from some of the matches but been available for all others. Ten years ago, there was a giant pay-per-view where a wrestler debuted and completely destroyed the opponent he'd be hooked up with in the months to come.
Note "Ten Years ago...a giant pay-per-view"

You are right on with your 1-2-3 Kid facts except all of that occured on RAW, not a PPV.

Upon studying #8 more closely last night two things jumped out at me.
protect your kings and queens because if they lost a war


and
the ultimate Easter Egg
Who fights a war? Answer: A Warrior
The Ultimate Easter Egg: Warrior + Ultimate must mean none other than.......The Brooklyn Brawler! No wait, I mean the Ultimate Warrior!

When UW wrestled Randy Savage in WM VII, Savage was "The Macho King" his manager was "Queen Sherri"
I really think that is the match.

Sherri turned on Randy after the match and Miss Elizabeth, who just happened to not only be in the crowd but got a really good aisle seat, ran to the ring and the two were re-united and.....sniff....later that year "Married" at SummerSlam.

Trying to solve all these makes me feel like I'm Batman fighting the Riddler! :P
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/18/03 at 08:17:20

I cracked Easter Egg #7. If anybody wants the solution let me know and I will post it. Otherwise I won't spoil the fun of figuring it out.  ;)
I have 3 so far. How's everybody else doing?
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 08:31:06

We already have two posted, although if you want to e-mail and save the suspense for others I'll give you my e-mail.  And has anyone else tried to do a royal rumble and get Giant Gonzalez to interfere with The Undertaker, I've had one go on for over an hour and he won't interfere.

Oh ya, my e-mail
b.buckley8@verizon.net
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/18/03 at 09:00:47

****Spoiler Alert*****
Easter Egg #7








To get Easter Egg #7
schedule a tag team match between the Midnight Express (Stan Lane & Bobby Eaton ) against  the Fantastics ( Tommy Rogers & Bobby Fulton )
I don't know if it is needed to crack the egg but I created the Fantastics tag team as they are not in the TNM Tag Team database.

Choose the Ban Managers option. I also chose book match and had the ME win since that was the result in 88. On the final screen where we are shown "I quit match", "cage match" etc... choose cage match and select the pinfalls only option.
That should give you the ability to adjust the chances of foreign objects being passed in tweak circuit.

I admit I have forgotten exactly whether or not to ban managers. :-/  But I think I did. If not follow all of the above except allow managers.
TiLoBrownPosted on 07/18/03 at 16:20:58

#4 just happens, #7 hasn't been implemented yet.
kvaderPosted on 07/18/03 at 17:40:24

I just got #1

**Spoilers**




















I had a Royal Rumble with Yokozuna, Randy Savage, Undertaker, and Giant Gonzales.  (Not sure if you need all of them or not)  Just have Yokozuna win it, and you'll get it.
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 18:05:51

I've ran the match twice now, both times with Giant Gonzalez eliminating The Undertaker, and Yokozuna winning, haven't gotten it yet.  What options did you select on the Royal Rumble?
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 18:17:58

Ah that was it, you have to have over the top rope elimations on as well.
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 18:51:02

Hmm, I can't seem to get that one to work.  Does it have to be Gonzales eliminating Taker, and Savage/Yoko as the last two?
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:00:46

Just run a two man Royal Rumble with Gonzalez and Undertaker as the only participants. Gonzalez won in mine, which unlocked the egg.
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 19:04:30

Tried that, but still no dice.  Or egg, as the case may be.
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:12:48

I may live to regret this, but if anyone would want help with the eggs, feel free to IM me on AOL. I have all the eggs except for #2 and the Master egg, and I have a good idea of what #2 is.
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:19:40

And if we don't have AOL Instant Messenger?  Can you e-mail the info for #3 and #5  my e-mail is posted on a message earlier
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 19:21:38

It'd be easier to post them all here wouldn't it?  Save you getting constantly asked the same questions over and over again.
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:42:36

On 07/18/03 at 19:21:38, rptDX316 wrote:It'd be easier to post them all here wouldn't it? Save you getting constantly asked the same questions over and over again.
I'm in the school of thought that some people may want to figure out the eggs themselves, so I'd rather not ruin that for anyone that's trying to accomplish the feats themselves.

If you don't have AIM, you could e-mail me. I also use Yahoo! and MSN IM on occasion, but not as often as AOL.
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 19:43:42

The only other alternative would be to post them in a seperate topic, where people could look if they wanted to.
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:44:53

Also, if you're a registered SE beta tester, you can just go to the Yahoo! beta board and see all the eggs that have been solved. You should have received an e-mail about it when you registered.
JarOfMonkeysPosted on 07/18/03 at 19:59:59

I don't even have TNM (yet, it's a dream of mine to get one in the future), but this Easter Egg thing has me intrigued. So, let me offer my thoughts as well.

#1--'Giant PPV' seems to me to suggest WCW's World War III PPV. After all, it was giant (60 guys). Whether or not that was happening ten years ago is beyond me, but it's worth checking in to.

#2--You're going to have to go with something very rare. If it only happened once, chances are it may not be that hard to figure out, with a little creative thinking.

#3--Jack Tunney? Far as I know, he was president a couple of decades ago, at least. So most likely this won't be unlocked with anybody current.

#4--Hogan vs. Rock seems to fit the profile. On an off-chance that it doesn't, you could always try Piper vs. Goldust, the Hollywood Lot Brawl from WM XII. But Hogan/Rock seems to fit more.

#5--This one's beyond me, all though you could look towards someone who always kicked the crap out of referees.

#6--'Undertaking' seems to suggest the Undertaker, although in what capacity I have no clue. It's a thought though

#7--It says that if you don't find it by midnight, it may be too late. Midnight Express, perhaps? Combine that with some of their cage matches, you have the answer.

Master Egg--Well, I have no clue. Besides, you have to solve the others to get this one to work anyways, right?  :)

Hope these ideas helped
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 20:21:49

On 07/18/03 at 19:59:59, JarOfMonkeys wrote:I don't even have TNM (yet, it's a dream of mine to get one in the future), but this Easter Egg thing has me intrigued. So, let me offer my thoughts as well.

#1--'Giant PPV' seems to me to suggest WCW's World War III PPV. After all, it was giant (60 guys). Whether or not that was happening ten years ago is beyond me, but it's worth checking in to.
Not quite. You're on the right track, though maybe you should make like one of the involved wrestlers and jump feds 10 years ago.

#3--Jack Tunney? Far as I know, he was president a couple of decades ago, at least. So most likely this won't be unlocked with anybody current.
Yup. If this was before your time, do a little research on title changes in Atlantic City. Also, this was a true TNM match.

#4--Hogan vs. Rock seems to fit the profile. On an off-chance that it doesn't, you could always try Piper vs. Goldust, the Hollywood Lot Brawl from WM XII. But Hogan/Rock seems to fit more.
Well done. You're on the right track.

#5--This one's beyond me, all though you could look towards someone who always kicked the crap out of referees.
Razor. Legendary. Review WCW history, mid to late 90s.

#6--'Undertaking' seems to suggest the Undertaker, although in what capacity I have no clue. It's a thought though
You got one of three. Colors and numbers are important in the other two.

#7--It says that if you don't find it by midnight, it may be too late. Midnight Express, perhaps? Combine that with some of their cage matches, you have the answer.
You have one team right, but it's not a cage match that does it. You need to know about a big feud from that time period to get this right.

EDIT: Just tried to make a couple clues a little better.
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 20:48:26

I figured out why people are having problems with #1. It must be Giant Gonzalez as opposed to Giant Gonzales.
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 22:06:16

Oooh, I got #3. Before I post the spoiler (I want to feel special), little help with #4. For whatever reason, just booking Hulk Hogan vs Rock with Rock winning with the Rock Bottom doesn't work for me. What am I missing?



















**SPOILER**Schedule a tournament with Savage beating DiBiase in the final. I made it for a vacant title (don't know if this is important) and Savage won with the flying elbow (don't know if this is important either). And the losing semi-finalists where Hogan and Andre (same for that too).**SPOILER**
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/18/03 at 22:11:55

On 07/18/03 at 22:06:16, 91 wrote:Oooh, I got #3. Before I post the spoiler (I want to feel special), little help with #4. For whatever reason, just booking Hulk Hogan vs Rock with Rock winning with the Rock Bottom doesn't work for me. What am I missing?
It's a Hollywood match, you know.
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 22:19:43

On 07/18/03 at 22:11:55, leftsaidfred wrote:
It's a Hollywood match, you know.
Flem'n?
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:23:03

91, thanks dude, I had Gonzales instead of Gonzales.

And you know what he's saying for #4 right?  You're seeing things in too much colour, why not try looking at it in black and white?
mowieradPosted on 07/18/03 at 23:28:44

Anyone think that maybe the team was triple H and Chyna for the answer to #2?  I know it's far fetched, but I've tried any other link I can think of.
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:33:15

On 07/18/03 at 22:06:16, 91 wrote:I made it for a vacant title (don't know if this is important) and Savage won with the flying elbow (don't know if this is important either).
Just got this one done, yes it does have to be for a vacant title.  Cool little extra that it unlocks as well.
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:36:44

On 07/18/03 at 23:23:03, rptDX316 wrote:91, thanks dude, I had Gonzales instead of Gonzales.

And you know what he's saying for #4 right? You're seeing things in too much colour, why not try looking at it in black and white?
Yeah, I figured it out. I'm an idiot.  ;D
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:44:26

Here's a thought. For #6, Oliver notes 'in the 16 years he's been a fan'. BUT in that interview he did, he said he became a fan after going to the first Parade of Champions which was in 84 (19 years ago). Relevant or total toss on my account?
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:49:51

After finding out what you need to do, the numbers suddenly made sense to me.  

3 times in 16 years.  

3 in 16.  

3.16
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/18/03 at 23:50:09

On 07/18/03 at 16:20:58, TiLoBrown wrote:#4 just happens, #7 hasn't been implemented yet.
Just to expand on that: it has been implemented. The new TweakCirc beta just hasn't been released yet :)
91Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:51:29

On 07/18/03 at 23:49:51, rptDX316 wrote:After finding out what you need to do, the numbers suddenly made sense to me.

3 times in 16 years.

3 in 16.

3.16
Hmmm..... Austin, Undertaker... buried alive maybe? Or first blood?
rptDX316Posted on 07/18/03 at 23:54:58

Both those guys are involved, but there's also a third party involved.  Think of something that you might need to do following a Breakdown.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 00:02:07

On 07/18/03 at 23:54:58, rptDX316 wrote:Both those guys are involved, but there's also a third party involved. Think of something that you might need to do following a Breakdown.
Got it, though I should note you got the PPV wrong. :P ;)
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 00:03:48

The match happened at Judgment Day, which was the Pay Per View after Breakdown.  So it would be following a Breakdown  ;)
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:20:34

I'd like you to know, Oliver, that this dab-blasted Easter Egg stuff ruined my sleep. It's all I could think about last night  ;D

But, after reading through some stuff today, I have unlocked:

#1, #4, #6, and #7

Right now, I'm working on #3. I have a very good idea that #2 had something to do with Triple H (the Predator thing sticks in my head way too much) check his recent tag teams and who he was a partner with. [Didn't he tag with Austin for awhile under the name Power Trip?]


91Posted on 07/19/03 at 00:20:38

On 07/19/03 at 00:03:48, rptDX316 wrote:The match happened at Judgment Day, which was the Pay Per View after Breakdown. So it would be following a Breakdown ;)
WAYYYYYYYY too cryptic for me. 8)

While I'm here, #5. I'm sure (in theory) that it's one of two matches that happened in WCW, involving Hall against either Larry Z or Luger (with Larry as ref) but nothing is working for me. In the words of Ahmed Johnson - ARTKGNSDMVNER! But one keeps trying.
kvaderPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:25:26

Very close with #5, 91.  It's one of the matches with the other guy running in.  It has to end with a pinfall.

Now will someone figure out #2?  It's driving me mad!
mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:30:17

I'm with you kvader, #2 has been a real pain, not that I myself had much luck with any of the others, since not having wrestling available to watch is a detriment to this search.  #2 seems to be everyone's dismay.  Oliver deserves a wedgie for coming up with such a riddle.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:32:03

JQuack, I know how unlock #3. In fact it was revealed in this thread.

Kvader, if you know what #5 is, e-mail me at CrowLDR@sbcglobal.net, because I'd like to know.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 00:35:10

On 07/19/03 at 00:25:26, kvader wrote:Very close with #5, 91. It's one of the matches with the other guy running in. It has to end with a pinfall.

Now will someone figure out #2? It's driving me mad!
Got it. Cheers for that. Now, #2....  8)
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:37:46

I re-read the threads and found #3 and unlocked it. Good, cause I was about to scream. Now to work on #2


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
RGrahamPosted on 07/19/03 at 00:37:49

For #2, the only thing I can think of is Cactus Jack and Abdullah in the Chamber of Horrors match.  (It only happened once, and Abby got cooked!)  

So far I've unlocked 1, 3, 4, & 7.

The Master Egg is driving me crazy.  ???
I keep trying to thing of "Captain's":
So far:
'Captain' Mike Rotunda; 'Captain Redneck' Dick Murdoch; 'Captain' Lou Albano....  any others?
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 01:00:05

Woh, I finally got number #5, but you couldn't have made it more obscure if you tried.

I was starting to think I'd never get it, but I must have had a guardian angel on my side.  That's boss, man.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 01:03:51

On 07/19/03 at 01:00:05, rptDX316 wrote:Woh, I finally got number #5, but you couldn't have made it more obscure if you tried.

I was starting to think I'd never get it, but I must have had a guardian angel on my side. That's boss, man.
How did you get it?
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 01:09:25

Spoiler Warning ;) ;D :P


After doing a long ol' search on WCW results in 98, I found that on an episode of Thunder, Ray Traylor (aka the Big Boss Man, Guardian Angel, Big Bubba, etc) pinned Scott Hall with the Traylor Park Trash, following interference from Larry Zbyszko.

I ran this match, booking interference from Larry, and a Traylor win via finisher, and voila, egg unlocked.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 01:12:17

On 07/19/03 at 01:09:25, rptDX316 wrote:Spoiler Warning ;) ;D :P


After doing a long ol' search on WCW results in 98, I found that on an episode of Thunder, Ray Traylor (aka the Big Boss Man, Guardian Angel, Big Bubba, etc) pinned Scott Hall with the Traylor Park Trash, following interference from Larry Zbyszko.

I ran this match, booking interference from Larry, and a Traylor win via finisher, and voila, egg unlocked.
Hmmm, I used Luger instead of Traylor, seeing as Luger and Hall did a PPV match. In any case, seeing as the description afterwards made it clear that Larry was costing Hall matches, I guess Halls opponent isn't important.
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 01:14:38

I'm not sure about that though, as it didn't seem to work when I used Jericho.  Maybe there's another factor in there somewhere, such as a ref bump being needed?
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 01:20:28

I just unlocked #5 myself. I used a totally random wrestler (some Japenese dude named Wada) and let him win via pinfall with L.Z. intefereing....and voila. Egg unlocked. Now #2 is all I lack.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 01:24:58

For some reason it doesn't seem to work for me. :'(

I've tried Hall VS Luger with Zbyszko interference, Hall VS Traylor, Hall VS random wrestler, and it just doesn't seem to work for me. I even had a ref bump.

What does it unlock?
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 01:52:41

One thing worth checking for everyone having trouble with #5. Z-B-Y-S-Z-K-O. I went wrong there first time around.
mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 01:54:51

I ran the match 3 times before I got it to unlock the egg, as to why, I have no idea, but eventually it did work.
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/19/03 at 02:17:18

I'm pretty sure Hall has to lose by pinfall.
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 02:40:09

the top 3 things to see is that:

#1: Make sure it's Larry Zbyszko

#2: Make sure he interferes against Hall

#3: Make sure Hall is pinned.

Trust me, it worked with mine :)
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 02:47:08

On 07/19/03 at 02:40:09, JQuack wrote:the top 3 things to see is that:

#1: Make sure it's Larry Zbyszko

#2: Make sure he interferes against Hall

#3: Make sure Hall is pinned.

Trust me, it worked with mine :)
When you say interferes against Hall, would that mean all he'd really need to do is trip Hall at the beginning of the match and then do NOTHING for the rest? Or does his interference have to result in the pin?

I ask because I've done everything you listed about 20 times and it still won't work.

By the way, anyone got #2 and the Master Egg yet?
dmb6473Posted on 07/19/03 at 02:57:04

I can't get the Zbyszko interference to work either.

I'm also having trouble with the Savage v DiBiase title match. How are you supposed to guarantee a Savage win by pinfall (with finisher) when you can't book specific results in tournaments?
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 02:59:01

just keep hitting 'c' during that match until you get the desired result.
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 02:59:17

What Larry did in my match, I would not know. I just booked it like this.


Hall vs some dude
Outside Inteference
Larry Zbyszko
I did not specify types of inteference
He was the only one.

I didn't even book the match, I just let it run, and when it finished...if Hall won or the result wasn't a pinfall, I'd hit the C key to keep it going until my result came up.

Oh, and I'm still trying to figure out #2. I had an idea that if it is a Six Pack Challenge, try recreating the match with a Six Man Battle Royal (non Royal Rumble, pinfalls count as eliminations and over-the-top-rope turned off) I have tried a few combinations but no such luck.

JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:02:45

On 07/19/03 at 02:57:04, dmb6473 wrote:I can't get the Zbyszko interference to work either.

I'm also having trouble with the Savage v DiBiase title match. How are you supposed to guarantee a Savage win by pinfall (with finisher) when you can't book specific results in tournaments?
This was difficult for me to figure out as well. The best bet is to put Savage and Dibiase on opposite sides of your tournament listings. and you can also choose to have your brackets chosen by your ratings, which lets you choose your guys based on who is in your ratings list, I did it this way with a four-man tournament (Hogan,Savage,Michaels,Dibiase) and made sure that Randy Savage was the 1st man, and that Ted Dibiase was the last man on the list. And sure enough, they met in the finals. As for the finisher.....like guy says below you, just keep hitting the C key until you get it.
dmb6473Posted on 07/19/03 at 03:11:07

Yep, that worked. Got them both now, thanks.

A question about the referee attacking the wrestler easter egg. Is this something that happens at random during a match, or can you book it?
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:22:29

I just had a thought: When you unlock these, are they unlocked for good, or do you have to unlock them circuit by circuit? By the way, I'm up to THIRTY tries on Zbyszko, and it WON'T WORK. Errr. Oh well. Maybe if I restart the sim...

Okay, this is starting to piss me off. I just had Zbyszko hit Hall with a chair which resulted in the finishing move of Hall's opponent and the pinfall. AND I DIDN'T GET SQUAT! Maybe I already unlocked it somehow...
dmb6473Posted on 07/19/03 at 03:26:17

As for the Master Easter Egg, the part about protecting captains initially made me think about "Captains Falls" in Mexico. But that's probably too obscure.

Is it something to do with the WWF 1989. "Two great powers" indicates the "Mega Powers" (Hogan and Savage), "ready to explode" was the tagline for Wrestlemania V ("The Mega Powers Explode!"), and kings and queens could indicate what happened after WM V. This being Randy Savage winning the crown from Duggan, and Sherri becoming his queen.

So that gives 3 options: -

- Hogan/Savage vs' Twin Towers (the breakup)

- Hogan vs Savage (Wrestlemania V)

- Savage vs' Duggan (the crown match)

Also, wasn't there a match where Hogan and Elizabeth took on Savage and Sherri?
leftsaidfredPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:30:02

On 07/19/03 at 03:22:29, ManUnderMask wrote:I just had a thought: When you unlock these, are they unlocked for good, or do you have to unlock them circuit by circuit? By the way, I'm up to THIRTY tries on Zbyszko, and it WON'T WORK. Errr. Oh well. Maybe if I restart the sim...
I believe that once unlocked, all eggs stayed unlocked globally in your TNM.

Check all of your spellings, and make sure that Hall's losing by pinfall. Outside of that, I'm out of suggestions, really.
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:33:51

Anybody know anything about a Gauntlet match ever being run in the WWF or WCW? at least on a PPV, that's where these matches seem to come from
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:49:17

I need two and eight...which I think is the boat that everyone is stuck in at this point. Anyway if anyone finds them if you could send me message through this here board...or just post 'em.
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:51:56

Also, "One a predator..." I don't think I have seen it mentioned before, but Chris Benoit is known as the rabid wolverine...wolverine's are definatly predators.
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 03:56:30

Hey.....hey....


WCW: 1998 and 2000, before Benoit jumped ship. Didn't he work a program for the TV title with Booker T? A Best of Seven Series?

EDIT: Whoops, nevermind. the clues don't fit.
mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:06:02

By Joe I think I've got it, well the wrestler's anyway, as to the match I haven't been able to figure those out to save my life :P

Predator=Hunter
A Cook.....does this phrase ring a bell? lalalalal, does everybody smell what the ROCK is cookin!
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:09:48

Tried it. At least a one on one matchup. I have yet to find a One time only match involving those two. I'm beginnging to wonder if it IS the Six Pack Challenge.

I was reading past PPV's cards.

I have found A Six Pack Challenge, a Six Way Hell in the Cell, a Female Six Pack Challenge, and a Six Way Hardcore Match. I don't think the Six Pack Challenge fits the clues.

mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:14:21

Well under my theory, the question isn't whether or not those two were right, but who else was involved, say it was a 6 pack individual challenge, who were the other 4 contestants (I'll assume Mankind, Kane, The Big Show and Steve Austin?) possibly a battle royal in which Triple H defeats the Rock as the last two involved...possibility anyone?
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:21:00

I posted the original Six Pack results in a previous post:

The participants were:

Triple H
The Rock
Davey Boy Smith
The Big Show
Mankind
Kane

Austin was the special referee.

Lemme try some other things in my sim


BTW: Triple H Did pin the Rock in that match, and it was for the Vacant world title
mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:41:29

Well here's what didn't work, Triple H beating the Rock for the vacant World Title in a 6 man battle royal with mankind Kane The Big Show and Davey Boy Smith with special guest referee Steve Austin :(

I'm now officially out of ideas, anyone else have any luck?
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:45:30

I tried the same thing, don't feel bad. However...I was reading an email that was sent out a few days ago talking about the Easter Eggs. Oliver mentioned in the email that the match type that #2 unlocks is one that has "Been requested often"

Anybody who is a pro at these forums got any idea?
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 04:52:44

I've been here since the start...and I can't think of anything off the top of my head. Maybe we should all look back through the TNMSE suggestions thread and see which matches where suggested a lot.
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 05:13:54

I did. Nothing.

mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 06:07:49

Had another idea, but it fell through as well.  I was thinking at King of the Ring 2000 when Rock/Kane/The Undertaker def. Triple H/Vince McMahon/Shane McMahon.  I don't know the details on this match other than Rock pinned Vince, maybe I missed something?
JarOfMonkeysPosted on 07/19/03 at 06:58:47

On 07/19/03 at 06:07:49, mowierad wrote:Had another idea, but it fell through as well. I was thinking at King of the Ring 2000 when Rock/Kane/The Undertaker def. Triple H/Vince McMahon/Shane McMahon. I don't know the details on this match other than Rock pinned Vince, maybe I missed something?
The details were that it was a six man tag, but that if any person of HHH's team was pinned, he would lose his World Title to whoever the guy making the pin was. Rock pinned Vince, and subsequently won the belt.

Of course, I don't think you're able to set up something like this in the sim (like I said, I don't have one...yet). If so, though, it's worth a shot.

And as for the Six Pack Challenge idea, if you haven't tried, have Austin as special ref and have him interfere against the Bulldog. I believe that was who he plastered with the chair. Have HHH pin The Rock (w/ the Pedigree), and if that's the right combo, then all should be gravy.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 08:19:31

You know, the one match that they did once and never did again was also that Hardcore Time Limit Battle Royal at a Wrestlemania.

Tazz was in it, and Tazz could be considered a predator.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 09:13:36

On 07/19/03 at 00:37:49, RGraham wrote:For #2, the only thing I can think of is Cactus Jack and Abdullah in the Chamber of Horrors match. (It only happened once, and Abby got cooked!)

So far I've unlocked 1, 3, 4, & 7.

The Master Egg is driving me crazy. ???
I keep trying to thing of "Captain's":
So far:
'Captain' Mike Rotunda; 'Captain Redneck' Dick Murdoch; 'Captain' Lou Albano.... any others?
Just a reminder: you can't unlock the Master before you've freed the Slaves ;)
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 09:18:40

On 07/19/03 at 03:11:07, dmb6473 wrote:Yep, that worked. Got them both now, thanks.

A question about the referee attacking the wrestler easter egg. Is this something that happens at random during a match, or can you book it?
It's not bookable. These Easter Eggs were meant as small (or in cases of the match and the Master Egg) big surprises for those who show patience and dedication :-)

Whe the ref attacks a wrestler, it's a so-called "reactive spot" because it happens in reaction to am active spot. Reactive spots (since they require something specific happening right before them and can't happen on their own accord) can't be booked.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 09:34:42

On 07/19/03 at 03:22:29, ManUnderMask wrote:I just had a thought: When you unlock these, are they unlocked for good, or do you have to unlock them circuit by circuit? By the way, I'm up to THIRTY tries on Zbyszko, and it WON'T WORK. Errr. Oh well. Maybe if I restart the sim...

Okay, this is starting to piss me off. I just had Zbyszko hit Hall with a chair which resulted in the finishing move of Hall's opponent and the pinfall. AND I DIDN'T GET SQUAT! Maybe I already unlocked it somehow...
They are unlocked for good.

If you want to check whether or not it's already become unlocked, use the following plugin: http://www.tnm7.com/downloads/whateggs.zip.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 09:37:39

On 07/19/03 at 06:58:47, JarOfMonkeys wrote:
And as for the Six Pack Challenge idea, if you haven't tried, have Austin as special ref and have him interfere against the Bulldog. I believe that was who he plastered with the chair. Have HHH pin The Rock (w/ the Pedigree), and if that's the right combo, then all should be gravy.
I'll confirm that the Six Pack Challenge is a DEAD END...
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/19/03 at 11:24:48

Solution to Egg # 2 !!!


Book Shawn Michaels vs Triple H (rename Helmsley if you haven't already) for the vacant World Heavyweight Title.
Shawn then has to pin Triple H with the Sweet Chin Music.
Take note: the title has to be renamed World Heavyweight Title, otherwise it won't work.


It does unlock the elimination chamber match.

As for the clues, Predator= Hunter. I understand that
One a cook=Shawn Michaels. Can anyone explain that to me?

Heck, I knew the solution to the Fantastics/Midnight Express match with Jim Cornette suspended over the ring in a cage from 1988 as soon as I read it.

This one still has me baffled.

dmb6473Posted on 07/19/03 at 12:30:50

On 07/19/03 at 09:34:42, Oliver Copp wrote:

They are unlocked for good.

If you want to check whether or not it's already become unlocked, use the following plugin: http://www.tnm7.com/downloads/whateggs.zip.
I've just unlocked the Elimination Chamber match, but it only appears in the circuit where it is unlocked (not in existing or new circuits). According to the above plugin, it is unlocked, though.



Also, if you try to re-run the match in other circuits, it doesn't unlock it in them.
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 12:49:48

Elimination Chamber Match
Booker T won a 6-man Elimination Chamber Match:
        x Booker T and Y2J started out.
        x Rob Van Dam entered at 0:02:00
        x Shawn Michaels entered at 0:04:00
        x Kane entered at 0:06:00
        x Triple H entered at 0:08:00
        x RVD defeated Y2J after a flying dropkick in 0:13:34
        x Kane defeated HHH after the Choke Slam in 0:35:08
        x Kane defeated RVD after the Choke Slam in 0:41:11
        x Booker T defeated Michaels after a spinebuster slam in 0:47:50
        x Booker T defeated Kane after a missile dropkick in 0:48:11
Rating: *****
(Booker T won the World Heavyweight Title.)
Not too bad a start, if I do say so myself  ;)

However, the same thing has happened to me.  It's only available in the test circuit that I unlocked it in.
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 12:56:04

Right, #8 is neither Hulk Hogan vs Randy Savage, or Ultimate Warrior vs Randy Savage, or at least it doesn't seem to be, unless there's something else that needs to be added to them (maybe Warrior/Savage with the LLT option marked).

Rather funnily, during the course of the Warrior/Savage match I ran, Savage did hit the Flying Elbow on the Warrior 5 times.  Not in succession obviously, but hey, what do you want?  Blood?
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 13:20:36

Please wait until the new beta, available either today or tomorrow. This will have code that globalizes Easter Eggs that were found.

If you need it sooner, a patch was released on the beta tester mailing list, you can look it up in the messages online.
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/19/03 at 13:37:54

I have tried checking the loser leaves town box. No luck.

Last night while studying the final riddle the "fleet" struck me as strange. Could it be the Fleet Center? King of the Ring 2000 was held there. The main event was The Rock, Kane & Undertaker vs Triple H, Vince & Shane McMahon. The Rock pinned Vince and won the WWF title because of a stipulation that I can't remember.

What about the 2001 Survivor Series? The Alliance vs Team WWF- The Rock, Chris Jericho, Big Show, Kane, Undertaker vs Steve Austin,Kurt Angle,Shane McMahon,Booker T & RVD.

That gives us 2 kings (of the ring) Angle and Austin.
2 Leaders- The Rock - leader of the Nation of Domination at one point. Shane McMahon owner/leader of WCW.
But who are the 2 captains?
The 2 Queens - Linda & Stephanie
Two great powers - Alliance & WWF - only one would survive "If they lost a war it would be all over" Oliver says in his riddle.

War games 1998 with Ultimate Warrior is possible, but the "two" theme is missing.

My guess is it is none of these, but I thought I'd throw them out there if anybody wants to try. :P
phudjiePosted on 07/19/03 at 13:46:38

.....Wrestlemania 6 was billed "The Ultimate Challenge", I tried a Title vs. Title match between Warrior and Hogan with the Warrior winning, but that didn't work.....
.....I also tried a rematch of Wrestlemania 5 with Savage losing a the title to Hogan but that didn't work either.....
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 13:53:01

Maybe it's Rock pins Austin, after Angle's interference.

Rock and Austin were essentially the captains of each team, while Angle and Austin were former kings.

EDIT
Having tested that, it's not.
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/19/03 at 14:33:23

...the ultimate challenge. Two great powers, ready to explode...
Those are straight from Oliver's riddle. They are also the exact words used by Vince McMahon in the voiceover opening WM VI - Hogan vs Warrior.
Like phudjie though, I haven't been able to make it work.
Could there be some specific spots we are missing? This is the Ultimate Egg, I'm sure Oliver has made it really tough.
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 14:40:56

You may need specific factors for it.  Warrior winning with the splash, Earl Hebner as the referee, two titles on the line, etc.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 14:56:08

So what exactly do you have to do for #2 because it be not work for me?

By the way, Shawn Michaels being a cook - after he beat The Undertaker at the 98 Rumble, he came out the next night wearing a chefs hat and giving us different serving suggestions for how you want to cook your Undertaker. Or maybe that's too vague.
kvaderPosted on 07/19/03 at 14:56:52

Try renaming Shawn's finisher to Sweet Chin Music.  I had to do that for it to work.
phudjiePosted on 07/19/03 at 15:00:31

.....It unlocks a "new rule for ending matches", therefore, it has to have a non-conventional ending, following this train of thought, I have tried to recreate Hulk Hogan/Kevin Nash/Scott Hall vs. Lex Luger/Sting/Randy Savage where the nWo was "born".

The Starcade match between Sting & Hulk Hogan with Bret Hart as special ref.

Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant from SNME where Andre wins with a 3 count even though Hogan had a shoulder up at 2, two refs etc. (TWO)

Hulk Hogan & Randy Savage (the mega powers) vs. The Twin Towers from SNME where Hogan abandons Savage to help Elizabeth
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 15:03:22

Yes, the wording was partially taken from Vince's intro of WrestleMania VI but that is not the solution to the master egg. This time, you'll have to venture a bit away from the mainstream, away from the Hogans, Savages, Austins, Angles, Inokis, Babas, Mascaras or even Sandmans and Ravens.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 15:18:19

On 07/19/03 at 14:56:52, kvader wrote:Try renaming Shawn's finisher to Sweet Chin Music. I had to do that for it to work.
Nope, that's already done.
phudjiePosted on 07/19/03 at 15:19:16

.....check your messages.......
Hunter Hearst Helmsly HAS to be Triple H
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 15:20:13

Oh yeah, for #8, wasn't there some big fed vs fed thing in Japan not long ago? How does that count for venturing away from the mainstream?
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 15:23:24

On 07/19/03 at 15:19:16, phudjie wrote:.....check your messages.......
Hunter Hearst Helmsly HAS to be Triple H
I love you and I want your babies. 8)

Cheers.
RGrahamPosted on 07/19/03 at 15:23:35

I found the Master egg!!!! ;D

(hint: one possible answer has already been suggested in this thread...)
:P


rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 16:48:56

Hmmm...so it wasn't Tenryu vs Mutoh then...

Back to trying I guess...
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 17:26:47

I used to be up on my wrestling trivia...I am not anymore though. Anyway if anyone finds the master egg they should send me a private message through the board so I can also unlock it, since I will not get it on my own.
mowieradPosted on 07/19/03 at 17:33:38

I'm with you man, what I used to know is apparantly gone, and even when I think I know something I'm wrong.  I'd rather someone just gave me the solution then to fight all day with trying to figure out something I'm not going to, besides I have a pool tournament in 30 minutes and I'd rather my head was clear during it :P
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 17:37:34

You peeps shouldn't worry, my trivia is pretty good and I'm totally cuflummoxed on this one. Whoever provides me with the answer can have the big pile of TV guides that are stacking up in my room.
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 17:42:20

Thanks KVader.
CarlzillaPosted on 07/19/03 at 17:44:23

I just thought I would point this out. In the easter egg hunter plug in..I have unlocked #'s 1-7 and #50 so apparently we have quite a few more easter eggs to go...I am not sure if they have been included yet though.
91Posted on 07/19/03 at 17:56:55

I think it's just a case of Oliver having not implemented them yet (perhaps the first bunch were just to test the water), but lord, I hope they're not already in there or I'll never find them without clues or (more likely) mass answers, seeing as #3 was the only one I worked out for myself. :P
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 18:08:16

Don't worry... I just laid the groundwork for people who like trivia. I might end up putting out a monthly trivia contest... depends on whether or not people would like the whole Easter Egg craze to continue ;)
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/19/03 at 18:12:25

Where is the option for the Elimination Chamber?

Oh, and when I unlocked it the first time, I had to delete and restart my circuit, but when I ran the same match, I didn't unlock it again. Maybe it's still unlock in mine.
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 18:57:42

The EC match will only appear in the circuit you unlocked it in, until Beta 16 becomes available.

And there's a #50?  Holy potatoes Jim!
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 19:17:49

I know, you're a doctor, not a farmer ;)
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 19:26:20

I was actually (kinda) quoting American Pie 2, but I can see where you're coming from.

I even thought the the "two captains of another fleet" thing might have some sort of Trek relevance to it.  Unfortunately, there were no wrestlers named Kirk and Picard in my database   :(
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/19/03 at 19:28:10

On 07/19/03 at 19:26:20, rptDX316 wrote:I was actually (kinda) quoting American Pie 2, but I can see where you're coming from.

I even thought the the "two captains of another fleet" thing might have some sort of Trek relevance to it. Unfortunately, there were no wrestlers named Kirk and Picard in my database :(
And what exactly keeps you from creating them?
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 19:32:32

Hmmm...I smell a hint.  Or is that a red herring?
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 19:39:30

Mr. Copp, you are a genius  ;D

Jean-Luc Picard pinned James T. Kirk with the Women's Special Slaphead in
          0:10:15.
Rating: **** 1/4

James T. Kirk made Jean-Luc Picard submit to the TJ Left Hook(er) in 0:23:20.
Rating: **** 1/2


Card rating: **** 1/2
Actually worked after the first one, but either way I've done it.  Idiot that I am though, I didn't actually read the red box properly!
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 19:53:26

On 07/19/03 at 18:08:16, Oliver Copp wrote:Don't worry... I just laid the groundwork for people who like trivia. I might end up putting out a monthly trivia contest... depends on whether or not people would like the whole Easter Egg craze to continue ;)
All I can say is Bring It. :) Wrestling Trivia intrigues me
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 20:01:32

After getting the ME, there doesn't appear to be an extra finish type.  I assume that's coming in Beta 16, right?
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:04:41

On 07/19/03 at 19:39:30, rptDX316 wrote:Mr. Copp, you are a genius ;D


Actually worked after the first one, but either way I've done it. Idiot that I am though, I didn't actually read the red box properly!
I was acutally halfway through doing your solution when I felt like a big goof. But I did it anyway. :) I cannot BELIEVE this was a solution. Oliver....YOU ARE THE MAN! :)

BTW: I saw your finishers, those were hilarious. Here was my solution

Jean-Luc Picard pinned James T. Kirk with the Make it So Slam in 0:09:10.
Rating: *** 1/4


James T. Kirk pinned Jean-Luc Picard with the Klingon Krusher in 0:15:31.
Rating: *****


RGrahamPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:07:04

Run a Six-man tag match.  In the Match Options screen, there will be a flag for "Captain's Fall match".

The only problem I've noticed with it is that it doesn't seem to allow you to pick the team Captains...   ???

ThBeatnikPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:09:26

On 07/19/03 at 20:01:32, rptDX316 wrote:After getting the ME, there doesn't appear to be an extra finish type. I assume that's coming in Beta 16, right?
Try booking a 6-man tag team fight. You should see
the new finish type then.
The first wrestler chosen, out of the three on each side, will be the "Captain".
Now I have a reason to start researching lucha. :)
rptDX316Posted on 07/19/03 at 20:13:38

Found it, but it seems to be a tad glitchy. Check this result out.

Two-out-of-three-Falls Match With Captain's Rules:
nWo Wolfpac (Kevin Nash and Scott Hall) and Shawn Michaels beat
Bret Hart, Owen Hart and Davey Boy Smith 2 falls to 1:
x O. Hart beat Hall via the Sharpshooter in 0:09:14
x Hall beat B. Hart via the Outsider Edge in 0:28:25
Rating: ***


Card rating: ***
Just so you know, the first wrestler I picked for Team A was Michaels, and for Team B it was Bret.
ThBeatnikPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:45:53

On 07/19/03 at 20:13:38, rptDX316 wrote:Found it, but it seems to be a tad glitchy. Check this result out.


Just so you know, the first wrestler I picked for Team A was Michaels, and for Team B it was Bret.
No glitches in that result.
I'll break it down for you:
1) Owen beats Scott Hall. Hall's not the captain, so this pin counts as 1 fall.
2) Hall beats Bret. Bret IS the captain of the Hart team, and therefore worth 2 falls. The NWO wins, 2 falls to 1.

I think in lucha matches like this, pinning the other side's captain is an automatic win. Hence, Oliver's chesslike clue about protecting your kings.

Hope that helps.
TiLoBrownPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:46:59

Yep, the small glitch made Nash the captain
JQuackPosted on 07/19/03 at 20:52:55

Exactly right. on WWE Smackdown Shut Your mouth for the PS2, this match is included. A little difficult to understand at first, but when you get down to it, it's really cool.

One fall on a non-captain makes him the new Captain. If you pin him again, his team loses. If you pin the original captain, his team automatically loses.

However: I did have a weird outcome on a 10 on 10 match I tried.

                                  Easter Egg


Two-out-of-three-Falls Match With Captain's Rules:
The nWo (Kevin Nash and Scott Hall), Jean-Luc Picard, Droz, Arkane Sebastis, Steve Austin, The Rock, Shawn Michaels, Booker T and Ultimo Dragon
beat
James T. Kirk, Hulk Hogan, The Big Show, Triple H, Rob Van Dam, Kane, Kamala, Christian, Edge and Brock Lesnar 2 falls to 0:
        x Arkane beat Kane via the Catapult in 0:32:15
        x Rock beat Lesnar via disqualification in 0:40:28

Booker T suffered a neck injury. He will be out for approximately 12 cards.
Rating: 1/2*
[Bill Alfonso interfered against Steve Austin.]
[Paul Heyman interfered against The Rock.]


As you can see in that example, Kirk and Picard were the captains. Kane was pinned to become the new captain for Team Kirk. However, Lesnar was DQ'ed (which would cound as a loss) but he was not the captain.  Team Kirk lost anyway. I don't know how DQ's and C/O count in a Captain Rules Match, but that's how my match ended.
rptDX316Posted on 07/20/03 at 00:53:49

I understand now.  It's done slightly differently in SYM, whereby if a non-captain is pinned, he's eliminated and if the captain is pinned, the match ends.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/20/03 at 01:43:45

On 07/19/03 at 20:01:32, rptDX316 wrote:After getting the ME, there doesn't appear to be an extra finish type. I assume that's coming in Beta 16, right?
Schedule a match with 2 vs 2 or higher. There will be a new option next to one fall, two out of three etc.
Oliver CoppPosted on 07/20/03 at 01:47:49

Just to explain what is going on there.

You can win a Captain's Rules match by

a) either winning two falls against non-captains,
b) winning one fall against a non-captain and then one fall against the captain,
c) defeating the captain once

I may be adding different options to this in the future, though, because - as lucha expert Rob B. told me - the rules in Mexico and NOAH are a bit different for this particular match. Since I've watched neither lucha nor NOAH recently, I wasn't privy to the exact details of the rules for this match.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/20/03 at 02:33:47

Why doesn't this work for me? I simmed Jean-Luc Picard VS James T. Kirk (I assume I spelled it right) three times I got squat.
kvaderPosted on 07/20/03 at 02:42:30

Have you given them both the "Captain" nickname?
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/20/03 at 02:44:21

Your spelling is right ManUnderMask. It should work.

Try Mike Rotundo vs Dick Murdoch.

That is the other way to get the master egg
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/20/03 at 02:47:39

Try Mike Rotundo vs thingy Murdoch.
Thingy? I know I didn't type that! This board must be censored.
Rotundo vs Murdoch. "Captain Mike" vs "Captain Redneck" just a regular match. No belts, no stips.
TheSkearnelPosted on 07/20/03 at 03:29:52

I can't figure out how to unlock #4 or #1. I've done what has been said on the boards, and they just won't unlock.

For #4, did you guys have to adjust anything?

For #1, did you have to create Giant Gonzalez? I just renamed a wrestler already in the game Giant Gonzalez, so I don't know if that's the reason. But, this sucks, because these seem to be the two easiest to get, and I can't get them.

So, any help, a.s.a.p, would be good.

-Shawn K.
Tom_ServoPosted on 07/20/03 at 03:59:56

Shawn K, first let me say the image of Fred Flintstone and the phrase "pimpin' Ho's nationwide" just cracks me up. It looks like he enjoys it!

#4 Make sure you use "Hollywood" Hogan as heel and The Rock as face.  Book the Rock to win with the Rock Bottom. That should unlock it no stips, just a regualr match.

#1 I renamed El Gigante to Giant Gonzalez.
Put him in a battle royal, Royal Rumble Rules, Over the top rope eliminations only, with UT and Yokozuna. Have Yoko win. That's all I did. Some on the board added Savage into the mix.
phudjiePosted on 07/20/03 at 04:46:39

.....it has to be Giant Gonzalez NOT Giant Gonzales
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/20/03 at 06:20:03

I figured out why I couldn't get the Master Egg. I feel really stupid now. It's because I still can't get Hall/Zbyszko thing to work!
JQuackPosted on 07/20/03 at 06:49:33

On 07/20/03 at 06:20:03, ManUnderMask wrote:I figured out why I couldn't get the Master Egg. I feel really stupid now. It's because I still can't get Hall/Zbyszko thing to work!
Is Larry Zbyszko in your TNM (as a wrestler). I know that you can pick and choose who is installed in your TNM7, are you sure that Larry was installed? If not, the interference thing may not work right.
JQuackPosted on 07/20/03 at 07:41:41

LoL.

here was my result

                   
Shinzuke Wada pinned Scott Hall after a dropkick in 0:15:28.
Rating: * 1/4
[Larry Zbyszko interfered against Scott Hall.]


Card rating: * 1/4



Mine was a totally random selected wrestler

dmb6473Posted on 07/20/03 at 11:07:14

On 07/20/03 at 06:20:03, ManUnderMask wrote:I figured out why I couldn't get the Master Egg. I feel really stupid now. It's because I still can't get Hall/Zbyszko thing to work!
It seems as though it only works if Zbyszko directly interferes with the conclusion of the match (rather than at all other times). I tried it something like 30 times before I finally got him to attack Hall at the end of the match, and then drop his opponent on top of him for the pin. Keep pressing C until you get a similar result.
ManUnderMaskPosted on 07/20/03 at 23:22:37

I got the Hall/Zbyszko thing to work when I put the Data back in so I had to unlock them all again.
TheSkearnelPosted on 07/21/03 at 03:48:47

I have it in the computer as Giant Gonzalez, but it still isn't working. UGH! This sucks!

I got Rock vs Hogan to win (finally) so I just need to get this one, then I can get the big egg to work, and I'm done.

-Shawn K.
j5eRPosted on 07/21/03 at 05:03:32

Skearnel,

Just put Undertaker and Giant Gonzalez in a 2-Man battle royal match, over the top only, Royal Rumble rules.  Have Giant Gonzalez win.  and presto.  Hope that helps.

j5eR
TheSkearnelPosted on 07/21/03 at 14:53:58

That's what I hadn't been doing, scheduling it as a Royal Rumble rules Battle Royal. Needless to say, I unlocked said egg this morning, and am now in the process of unlocking the final egg. Thank you everyone for helping out!

-Shawn K.
DominusPosted on 07/25/03 at 23:02:52

Where is the Lumberjack match?  I think it use to be in an earlier version of TNM.  But I haven't seen it in a while.  Although it's not being used today hardly it would be nice if one of the easter eggs unlocked that match!
phudjiePosted on 07/26/03 at 04:59:26

.....Lumberjack match was never a feature in TNM before and as far as I know, (I may be wrong), it wasn't seriously considered as a new feature for TNMSE for reasons that I'm sure that somebody else can explain better than I can.....
jbfraserPosted on 08/04/03 at 21:54:24

#2 thinking Triple Header match from IYH #3 HBK/Nash never lost on TV (Perfect) HBK De-X BBQ would make him a cook and HBK/Nash never lasted long as a team

#3 DiBiase was the one booked in the 1st place to win WM 4 14 man tourament, but they changed it and gave it to Savage
jbfraserPosted on 08/04/03 at 22:13:18

#8 I think that has to do with Hogam vs UW from WM 6 ultimate challenge  both were
DominusPosted on 08/05/03 at 10:15:07

Just incase you don't know, all the Easter Eggs & how to unlock them have been posted here:

http://www.tnm7.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=2;action=display;num=1058700153
americamamushiPosted on 08/05/03 at 19:51:23

I'm still having trouble unlocking easter eggs 2, 3 & 5.

For #2 I renamed Triple H Hunter Hearst Helmsley and made sure that Michaels' finisher was named "Sweet Chin Music" and that it was for a vacant title named "World Heavyweight Title" like I read on here and it still won't unlock

For #3 I had a tourny for a vacant belt, with DiBiase facing Savage in the finals, and Savage winning with the flying elbowdrop, but no luck there yet.

And for #5 I have had Larry Zbyszko interfere against Scott Hall in matches against Ray Traylor and against random wrestlers, with Larry Zbyszko interfering at the end of the match directly, and nothing has been unlocked there either.

Any tips of what I may be doing wrong?  Thanks.  ;D
mikeyPosted on 08/06/03 at 04:36:05

The name  should be triple H.  not  hunter hearst helnsley
91Posted on 08/06/03 at 05:37:09

On 08/05/03 at 19:51:23, americamamushi wrote:I'm still having trouble unlocking easter eggs 2, 3 & 5.

For #2 I renamed Triple H Hunter Hearst Helmsley and made sure that Michaels' finisher was named "Sweet Chin Music" and that it was for a vacant title named "World Heavyweight Title" like I read on here and it still won't unlock

For #3 I had a tourny for a vacant belt, with DiBiase facing Savage in the finals, and Savage winning with the flying elbowdrop, but no luck there yet.

And for #5 I have had Larry Zbyszko interfere against Scott Hall in matches against Ray Traylor and against random wrestlers, with Larry Zbyszko interfering at the end of the match directly, and nothing has been unlocked there either.

Any tips of what I may be doing wrong? Thanks. ;D
It's been a few weeks since I've done these, so I may have totally forgotten, but this may or may not help.

#2 Mikey covered all that needs to be covered.

#3 The belt might have to be the world heavyweight title again.

#5 Hall has to lose by pinfall for one. And whilst I think you've got it right here, make sure you're spelling Larry's name right.
rptDX316Posted on 08/06/03 at 09:00:32

For #2 Triple H must be the champion.  The title must not be vacant.

For #3, call the title "WWF title"
ThaMagicianPosted on 08/08/03 at 00:44:55

So are there any ideas about the other 42 eggs? or is there just going to be a huge number gap from 7 to 50 with no eggs? I'm guessing lumberjack match could be in there.
LillaThrillaPosted on 08/08/03 at 01:37:23

Nope, there are eggs #1-#7 and #49/#50.  The rest were put in there for possible future use.

And hate to disappoint some people, but there is NO lumberjack match at all.  In fact, Oliver said there was little if any chance of it ever happening.  I think there were issues with all the wrestlers at ringside and their interaction with the wrestlers in the match and such.
DominusPosted on 08/08/03 at 13:05:35

Ahh damm that sucks.  Did any version of TNM have a lumberjack match?  I thought there was but maybe it was something else I played.
The Mat ManiacPosted on 08/25/03 at 08:17:59

Got a question...Didnt see to find it in the other posts...but if you have more than one circuit..and unlock it in one...is that code unlocked in all? or do they have to be unlocked in all the circuits seperately...

The Mat Maniac
leftsaidfredPosted on 08/25/03 at 15:10:24

On 08/25/03 at 08:17:59, The Mat Maniac wrote:Got a question...Didnt see to find it in the other posts...but if you have more than one circuit..and unlock it in one...is that code unlocked in all? or do they have to be unlocked in all the circuits seperately...
You can do it in just one, and you should be good to go. :)
C280931Posted on 08/25/03 at 15:53:10

Ok, can we have a run down on how we unlock the eggs - that we have got so far.
LillaThrillaPosted on 08/29/03 at 01:37:45

SE Easter Egg List
http://geocities.com/JL_Stinger/tnm7/eggs.html

(first half is the old FE easter eggs, scroll down a bit for the SE ones)
Tom_ImpPosted on 09/10/03 at 06:41:35

Just curious since I haven't heard anything, has anyone figured out the other Eggs yet? The ones besides the first 8 for SE I mean.
LillaThrillaPosted on 09/18/03 at 21:30:36

There are others besides the original 7 and Master Egg?
Tom_ImpPosted on 09/18/03 at 23:36:41

According to Oliver there were supposed to be.
k_mungePosted on 02/01/05 at 09:04:16

guys... i must be a complete moron cause I can not get #1 to work at all....worse off, if Giant Gonzalez needs to be a wrestler in the match, I can't do it cause I don't have him in my database...
Snabbit888Posted on 02/01/05 at 09:13:35

Just rename anyone to Giant Gonzalez.  Doesn't matter who.  Make Hulk Hogan or Lita Giant Gonzalez if you want.
americamamushiPosted on 02/01/05 at 18:00:52

you could always cheat and use the eggme plugin.

or if you can find it you can cheat and copy over the extras file with the unlocked extras file Olly posted a while ago.