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WWE Brand Extension for TNM?

HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/07/05 at 23:27:50

This is a question to all the people who are trying to run the WWE as a brand extension.

Do you use one main circuit?  Or do you create a RAW circuit and a Smackdown circuit?  But what about joint PPVs?  Do you create a third circuit where just the joint PPVs are posted?

I'm thinking about creating a WWE brand extension circuit starting from New Year's Revolution, but I want the best possible setup before beginning.  At this point, I'm considering creating three circuits (RAW, Smackdown, and WWE for the joint PPVs).

The only problem is that for joint PPVs, the ratings and any title changes won't appear in the appropriate circuit's title history.
Murphy42782Posted on 01/07/05 at 23:46:19

I usually run two seperate circuits. One Smackdown, One Raw. For joint PPVs I usually run 2 smallers cards, one in each circuit. For Example,  If WrestleMania is approaching and I feel like WM should have 8 matches,  I simply run a 4 match Raw card entitled WM and a 4 match Smackdown card entitled the exact same thing and I keep in mind that they are occuring on the same day, same venue etc.. The only time this is an issue is with the Royal Rumble PPV because they have a joint rumble match in real life. To remedy this I haven't decided yet as I usually start my WWE circuits sometime following one of the WMs and I lose interest in the two feds because it becomes too much work.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/08/05 at 00:06:40

That would make sense.  What I used to attempt was running the joint PPV in one circuit, and then run it in the other circuit and edit everything to match what happened in the original circuit it was posted in.

I'm leaning towards creating three circuits (RAW, SD!, and WWE) and not worrying if ratings and title history don't mix and match.  I mean, I keep a word document of all my title histories anyways.

I wish there was some way to link W-L and title histories from one circuit to another circuit (especially for use in the weight class plugin).
americamamushiPosted on 01/08/05 at 04:18:32

I'd say if you have the weight class wizard run it all in one big circuit, just for the fact that all of TNM's heat mechanics will work right.  You could end up having a guy that's hot on RAW, but has a heat level of 1 in your PPV only section.
TerryFunkaPosted on 01/08/05 at 04:22:58

or you could do 1 big curcuit then for the raw only shows turn on email mode after the card edit all the raw contracts by 1 and do the same for smackdown
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/08/05 at 04:46:27

On 01/08/05 at 04:18:32, americamamushi wrote:I'd say if you have the weight class wizard run it all in one big circuit, just for the fact that all of TNM's heat mechanics will work right. You could end up having a guy that's hot on RAW, but has a heat level of 1 in your PPV only section.
I didn't think about that.  But I suppose this could be fixed using the TweakCirc in the PPV only circuit.

I'm just looking for the ideal setup now, so I don't have to change it during the circuit, which would be a downer.  I want to be able to start this circuit and continue it.

Of course, I still can't find a Muhammed Hassan export, which makes running New Year's Revolution a problem.  Does anyone have an idea which wrestler he is similar to?  I might just do a temporary cloning of another wrestler's moveset and such and use it for Muhammed for the time being.


HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/08/05 at 04:48:34

On 01/08/05 at 04:22:58, TerryFunka wrote:or you could do 1 big curcuit then for the raw only shows turn on email mode after the card edit all the raw contracts by 1 and do the same for smackdown
The contracts aren't a concern to me really.  Just the W-L, and title histories not showing up would be a concern.  Plus, the heat rating as well.

Although, it seems like the consensus is one big WWE circuit.  Going once, going twice....  
Rick GarrardPosted on 01/08/05 at 05:45:39

HugeRockStar... look for a Mark Magnus export from his OVW days.  I'm pretty there is/was one available at one time or another.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/08/05 at 05:59:45

On 01/08/05 at 05:45:39, Rick Garrard wrote:HugeRockStar... look for a Mark Magnus export from his OVW days. I'm pretty there is/was one available at one time or another.
Yeah, I know.  I could've sworn TNM UK had an early export of Magnus, but I can't find it.

PulsarPosted on 01/08/05 at 06:16:49

I used to do them separate, and then split up the PPV's. Summerslam and Rumble to SD, WM and Survivor to Raw.
rey619Posted on 01/08/05 at 12:35:21

I run it all in one big circuit (have done so since WM XX).
It is a lot of work, but it is the only circuit I have been able to stay interested in. The problems I have encountered in doing it as a big (70-80 wrestler circuit) mainly evolves around hiring wrestlers and wrestlers resigning. With so many wrestlers, it is hard to have other wrestlers sign for you, and many wrestlers also resign. I've had Triple H, Randy Orton, Ric Flair and Brock Lesnar leave in the last six months, and I think this has to do with the fact that they aren't given the titles they want (Orton, Trips and Brock with push of 100). The SD World Title was the first one I created, so that one is the most prestigious, and since they are RAW guys they cannot have it.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/08/05 at 22:16:05

The main reason why I decided to not run the WWE as one circuit was exactly for that reason about contracts.  If the roster is too bloated, there will be a tendency for the main eventers to leave.  

I decided to go with the idea of creating three separate circuits (RAW, SD, and joint WWE PPVs).  To solve the problem about heat ratings, I will use the tweak circ to match the values from either RAW and SD to the joint PPV circuit.

Now, all I need is a Muhammed Hassan export or a Mark Magnus export.
JustinPosted on 01/10/05 at 00:09:38

I made a "cheap" Hassan by editing Tiger Ali Singh and giving him the Camel Clutch finisher... cheap but it'll do til an actual export is made
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/10/05 at 01:49:37

On 01/10/05 at 00:09:38, Justin wrote:I made a "cheap" Hassan by editing Tiger Ali Singh and giving him the Camel Clutch finisher... cheap but it'll do til an actual export is made
Yeah, I decided just to make a clone of another wrestler and use it for Hassan temporarily.

Normally I would've waited, but I wanted to post my New Year's Revolution results before the real pay per view airs.  

I gave Muhammad Hassan a finisher called "Ignorance Blissed", a swinging facebuster.  I read a house show report where someone wrote that Hassan used a facebuster for a finisher.  He'll definitely need some updating after tonight's match with Jerry Lawler.
PulsarPosted on 01/10/05 at 06:42:30

Just watched the PPV. Yeah, now you know 3 of his moves, he's offically in the WWE.
k_mungePosted on 02/01/05 at 07:01:53

Hassan's finisher is basically the same exact move as Jarrett's The Stroke and also what Kanyon's finisher was....
americamamushiPosted on 02/01/05 at 07:08:36

Kanyon yes, Jarret... not really.  It'd be like... the opposite of Jarret.  

It's sort of like Kanyon's move (Flatliner?)/Nova's move (Novacaine?)/Edge's downward spiral  execept that it's preformed more like the Complete Shot.