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americamamushiPosted on 12/18/04 at 06:55:49

I just read a review of TNM on some site (it must have been old, it was about v6.2... or maybe it was 7... anway) that said TNM doesn't have the same kind of depth as other booking style sims...

*blink,blink*

Even at that stage I believe the inner workings of the sim was more advanced than anything out there in the past or present.

Little do they know... ;)

*worships Oliver*
Oliver CoppPosted on 12/18/04 at 19:14:01

I guess it's a case of "diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks" but when you have a program with a 150 page manual, you'd expect a certain depth. Nobody will get a hang of TNM within 15 minutes but that is something I'll gladly live with.

At least it beats having products that look pretty as far as their interface is concerned but you lose interest quickly. I won't drop any names here but there aren't so many titles I could be referring to.
91Posted on 12/18/04 at 21:02:29

Reminds me of this forum I used to post on. Everyone was posting results to their EWR circuits, fair enough, so I bunged in mine. Someone asked for a link and about ten minutes later, they posted again saying how awful TNM is. After asking why, he answered by saying how ugly it was. I guess he was expecting a Championship Manager like interface. In any case, he couldn't possibly have had time to actually DO anything.
CarlzillaPosted on 12/18/04 at 22:46:15

I guess after using some of the older versions...6.13 and 6.2, 7 is a godsend in comparison.  I mean we actually have mouse support now...plus (although this could just be that I have gotten used to it over the years) I think TNM has a very good interface for a DOS based program...guess some people don't appreciate the old school OS's.
Oliver CoppPosted on 12/18/04 at 23:35:50

Which *is* understandable... time has long passed DOS by. I get that and I admit it ;)

But to be honest, losing the "kiddies" (no offense meant) brought down my e-mail count by 90%.

It'd be interesting to find out the age of the average TNM user. It was very interesting seeing that the typical RAW viewer in November was 34 years old while Smackdown's typical viewer was seven years older.

This begs an off topic question: would wrestling need to regain the teenagers to reach its next boom phase?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 12/19/04 at 01:43:06

This begs an off topic question: would wrestling need to regain the teenagers to reach its next boom phase?
To reach another boom phase?  Yes.  The vast majority of adults in the country who aren't already wrestling fans probably aren't going to be too likely to give it a try on a moment's notice.  By the time you reach 30 or so as someone who isn't a fan of wrestling, the whole "But it's fake!" school of thought has been pretty much hammered into your head to the degree that Wrestling is considered unfit for watching by intelligent people and/or just for kids.  If the average age of wrestling fans is over 30 now, I suspect that most have watched for years.  In order to expand its demographic, WWE will have to target teenage viewers, who in time will hopefully become dedicated enough fans to stick with WWE through its next downtime.

Does wrestling need to regain teenagers to be fun to watch?  Of course not.  All it needs is good writing and quite possibly a less hectic schedule.  I suspect that once it is, the teenage demographic will increase again anyway because the quality of the shows will be higher and because the shows will still contain the sort of things that teenagers consider to be cool.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Rick GarrardPosted on 12/19/04 at 02:45:21

Wrestling is a cyclical product.  The same core of us late 20s to mid-30s watchers, were also the same core of fans that grew up, and got hooked watching Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair some 20 years ago when we were kids.  And those that were the casual fans back then, came BACK to wrestling during the WWF/WCW wars boom, which is roughly the normal10 to 15 year cycle of when people re-introduce their kids to what they loved to watch growing up themselves.  The way I see it, the next BIG wrestling boom should hit in roughly 2008-2009, if not speeded up thanks to one Ted Turner once his non-compete with AOL/Time Warner (as far as owning television and cable stations not part of the AOLTW chain) runs out here in 2005.  (On a side note, did anyone else notice that on Dec. 15, CNNfn and CNNInternational ceased their operations?  They were Turner's last "babies" while he was still with AOL/TW.)