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LillaThrillaPosted on 04/16/04 at 01:26:05

1) What circuits are you currently running?  Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

2) What other circuits do you currently read?  (include a links, if you can)

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time?  (include a link, if you can)

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why?  (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?
cerberosPosted on 04/16/04 at 06:31:04

1) What circuits are you currently running? Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

I currently am not running a fed.  I am trying to get a good roster and can't seem to get one going.  I have one posted but it hasn't been updated for nearly a year I think.  

2) What other circuits do you currently read? (include a links, if you can)

With school just ending I haven't been able to read any religiously.  I read most that are posted on here in some way shape and form.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time? (include a link, if you can)

I enjoyed a Smackdown circuit that Pete Abram had on his site.  I don't really have a favorite although I did enjoy some on the old TNM Email list years ago.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I usually only use real wrestlers.  I might change their gimmicks however.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I prefer real wrestlers.  Some fictious wrestlers are just hard to get a grasp on.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why? (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

I do results with "short" write ups.  I usually add some interviews and commentary in between matches.  I think that I sometimes go into too much depth.

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?

I don't like to see the TNM pbp but that is just me.  I perfer results with write ups.
rey619Posted on 04/16/04 at 11:10:27

1. I'm currently running two circuits. The first is a Smackdown circuit in the WWA umbrella fed over at http://synnstoxin.proboards21.com/ and the other is a circuit using Rick's Old School rulesheet. Edge is currently the reigning World Champion, with La Parka, Chris Jericho and Stan Dupp! as former world champions. Low-Ki and Chris Jericho held on to to the tag-team belts for 16 weeks before being beaten by the Dudley Boyz.

2. I like reading the other feds in WWA, and an occasional fed in the Fed forum.

3. In WWA's predecessor, IWA, someone called Shane ran an old-school circuit with the IV Horsemen, Sting, Bret Hart and all the good old stars. That was pretty impressive reading. I also ran a circuit using all of my friends as wrestlers, a very successful circuit that lasted nearly two years of real time!

4. I prefer real wrestlers. Sometimes I try to relive the glory of the circuit involving my friends, but it just isn't the same anymore.

5. Real wrestlers.

6. I do writeups in addition to results. I also use backstage segments and interviews, sometimes to much of it I think.

7. I don't like pbp very much, and prefer writeups. You have much more freedom that way. If heel A beat face B without interference, and you wanted interference to spice up a feud, you can always have that in your writeup. A pbp is too restrictive.
LillaThrillaPosted on 04/17/04 at 04:51:21

1) What circuits are you currently running? Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.
Right now, I have a couple.
PWF - fantasy wrestlers, mostly long summary if or playbyplay (my writeup not TNM's). started Dec 98 both real and circuit time, but only at May 99 circuit time (its gone through long periods of layoff).
AOW - fantasy wrestlers using Rick's Old School Rules. 3 cards into it.
SOTBW - fantasy wrestlers, lucha-style. 3 cards into it as well.

I have a forum over on the Hardedge Boards where I post new circuit cards. Eventually, everything will end up on TNM 3:16 as well.
http://pub48.ezboard.com/fhardedgewrestlinguniversefrm77

2) What other circuits do you currently read? (include a links, if you can)
VCW. The PLC's fantasy wrestler fed. Long writeups and often extreme storylines.
BCW. Rick's original old school rules circuit.
Both are posted over at the Hardedge boards.

EMLL. Rob Bihari's latest lucha circuit, posted to the TNM Topica list.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time? (include a link, if you can)
SMWA. I suspect part of its nostalgia, but I just thoroughly enjoyed the circuit and its magnificent writeups. A Google search for "Slam Masters Wrestling" should turn up the URL.

Very honorary mentions go to Tommy's WCW-SF circuit. I think the cards are still on his forum on the Hardedge Boards. And also Colin's AAA, which ran on the Topica boards for close to 2 years I think but alas I don't think was ever put on a website. :(

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?
Due to not following pro wrestling beyond SK rants and what I hear from the TNM community***, I have basicly sworn off writing real wrestler circuits indefinitely because I feel too out of touch with it and too many of the wrestlers I have never even seen a picture. So it's 100% ficitious wrestlers these days.

I was never too big of a fan of writing real wrestler circuits anyway. Either I had never seen the guy so I didn't know how to write him, or I had seen the guy and never felt my writing properly captured the character. With fictious wrestlers, I can't write the character wrong because I created him/her.

***I don't have cable so the only thing I could get is Smackdown and thats not exactly sounding interesting lately - I tried watching a few times during college when I had cable and while I was moderately entertained there was no real 'I wanna tune in next week to see what happens then' desire)

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?
I tend to be overly partial toward fictious wrestler circuits, but I enjoy a good real wrestler circuit. I'm not really a fan of mixed circuits - it just feels uncomfortable somehow.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why? (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)
I usually use a results + short writeup format. Enough to give an idea of what's going on beyond the matches. Sometimes try to say a little bit about the match - noteable spots and near falls or just a one or two sentance summary.

I'd do PBP more but between time and the return-for-the-effort its not really worth it except on PWF.

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?
I generally prefer PBP, though some people can do it better than others and some things even PBP wont make it interesting enough to read it. So I often end up skim reading the match PBP.

Though, despite all my PBP whoredom, there have been a number of really enjoyable circuits which did not do it.

One of the most inventive writeup styles for matches I've ever seen was (to my knowledge) invented by Tommy B for his aforementioned WCW-SF. For each match, he would list the Ref, Good Points, Bad Points, and the Finish.
FStanislawczykPosted on 04/17/04 at 07:32:13

Wow I've been gone from TNM for a while. Don't know if any of you guys remember me. I used to run The TNM Warehouse a number of years ago. It's definitely been a while but I'm back.

1) Not currently running any but plan on getting back into it. I'll probably start something up using Rick's new rules.

2) Like I said, haven't been around but that'll change.

3) Well there's a few. Kirk's SMWA of course. Then there was Drin's AWCW I believe it was called that he posted on the list. And also I enjoyed all of the incarnations of Ryan's GLW (http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Sideline/9984/)

4) I used to prefer real wrestlers but after being out of the loop for so long I'd have to say now I prefer fictitious wrestlers.

5) As long as it's well done, I like reading circuits with either real or fictitious wrestlers.

6) I like doing the results with short write-ups. Gives the reader a feel for the card but doesn't require too much time to write and isn't that lengthy.

7) The long write-ups are good to read if they're done well. Kirk was one of the best as doing these with the SMWA and it really let you get into the card. But basically as long as it's interesting I'd like to read it.
Snabbit888Posted on 04/17/04 at 07:49:05

To amend that, Frank, GCW (born from old GLW) is the circuit I post now.  http://www.geocities.com/cripple_threat/

Nie to see you again though.  You're a name from the old crowd I haven't seen in awhile. :)

-Nubbs
Snabbit888Posted on 04/17/04 at 07:56:16

1) What circuits are you currently running?  Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

*** Global Championship Wrestling.  I went back to using a more GLW style of writeup so I can actually make storyline progress.  College makes it hard to keep up.  I post the circuit on the TNM boards, the Hardedge Wrestling Forums, and on its own site, http://www.geocities.com/cripple_threat/

2) What other circuits do you currently read?  (include a links, if you can)

*** I'm looking for that circuit that'll really peak my interest.  I like Matt Harms' NAWA, but I need to be able to set some time aside to really get a feel for the stories and what not.  Honestly, most circuis right now are fantasy wrestlers or Rick's Rules circuits, both of which don't particularly hit the spot for me.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time?  (include a link, if you can)

*** I liked Coop's WWA a lot.  Kod's SCW was also very good (Rick Wagner 4 life!).  I wasn't the SMWA mark a lot of people were, but he didn't do a bad job.  Doyle's NCPW also ruled loads of ass.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

*** Real.  To be honest, I simply don't have the kind of time to devote to TNM writing to develop fantasy characters enough that people will care.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

*** Real wrestler feds.  Once again, back to the time thing.  Unless I have a lot of time to read a fantasy circuit, I just won't understand the characters or their motivations.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why?  (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

*** Results with a short to mid-writeup.  Enough that you can get the gist of how a match went, who won, understand angles and such, but not so long that no one is going to want to sit down and read it.

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?

*** The same.  Play-by-play I end up skimming, and real short writeups I just go, "Eh... it's just matches."  Wrestling needs the matches and some story, IMO.

-Nubbs
LillaThrillaPosted on 04/17/04 at 19:36:42

Then there was Drin's AWCW I believe it was called that he posted on the list.
Drin's AWCW and also PWE - Pro Wrestling Edge - where very enjoyable circuits.  What happened in-ring was negible but the storylines were very enjoyable.
FStanislawczykPosted on 04/17/04 at 19:41:44

On 04/17/04 at 07:49:05, Snabbit888 wrote:To amend that, Frank, GCW (born from old GLW) is the circuit I post now. http://www.geocities.com/cripple_threat/

Nie to see you again though. You're a name from the old crowd I haven't seen in awhile. :)

-Nubbs
Yeah that was the only link I had to GLW, but I'll definitely check out GCW.
rgarrardPosted on 04/18/04 at 15:54:06

1) What circuits are you currently running?  Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

Currently I am only running one circuit and that would be BCW.  In conjunction with BCW, I am also writing the Old School Rules.  Both are posted here on tnm7.com and the hardedge forums.


2) What other circuits do you currently read?  (include a links, if you can)

Pretty much ANY of the OSRR circuits, and the occasional glance at MattHarms NAWA.  


3) What's your favorite circuit of all time?  (include a link, if you can)

Definitely NOT Kirk's SMWA, as it's WAY overrated in my opinion and that's only because he was the first to do something different than anyone else with it.  My all-time favorite happens to be my current BCW, as I am having a lot of fun working on it.  


4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I prefer real wrestler circuits, but have dabbled with an all fictional wrestlers fed called RUFF... it lasted all of 2 cards but I had backstories for EVERY wrestler and referee in the circuit.  And their stories were VERY highly detailed.


5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I prefer real wrestler feds to read mainly cause it's a lot easier to see the name and say to myself, "I know who that guy is" especially since I try not to read other circuits when working on one of my own so I don't have an outside influence on my own booking.


6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why?  (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

Massive PBP is a very easy way out of doing a good circuit and is what killed RUFF.  Results without write-ups is the original Ricks Rules concept for mass quantities of cards in a short amount of time.

Personally I now prefer doing a style that mixes everything since TNM now allows for writing comments after each card.   This means I like to do a short PBP, give the results, and then comment after each match and include the occasional write-up with interview or promo or hype central.  BCW is a good example of this hybrid style of writing.  Also look at Eric's NDW for a similar style of format.


7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?

It all depends on what type of circuit it is as to how well the write-up works for that circuit.
91Posted on 04/18/04 at 19:57:57

1) What circuits are you currently running? Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

Just the one that I do religiously, the DWF (doesn't stand for anything, I just think it's a catchy acronym). That's a circuit with a mix of newer and older guys (covered with a story about Shane McMahon finding a magic lamp and wishing he could hire anyone he wants in their prime forever). Until a few days ago, I posted it at another message board (with a link that's still in my sig), but the admins just fell out and everything got deleted so I'll have to carry on somewhere where I left off. Might post it here too if anyone cares to read it.

2) What other circuits do you currently read? (include a links, if you can)

Just a few that my buddies do. Most are from the same board, bar one that's E-Mailed to me, so still no links.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time? (include a link, if you can)

My mate Ads (who doesn't always use TNM, so whether it counts or not...). That's the E-Mailed one. That I like due to it being more very funny and not very serious than anything.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

Real wrestlers every time. If I ever invent some sort of character for a one off appearance, I'll always hire a real wrestler for one show and stick a mask on him. I could never really get behind a made up one, and I'm certainly not the sort of person to EVER use myself.

One thing I'm not so good at though is capturing original characters and nailing them dead on very well, so I tend to make up new gimmicks, hence my circuit is full of stuff like "Unnecessary Evil John Cena", "Lawsuit Filing Billy Kidman", "King Kanyon", "Cynosure Jerry Lynn", "Halucinating Stoner RVD" (actually maybe I have nailed his original character to a tee...), "Stupid Gullible Moron Hunter Hearst-Helmsley", "Gimmick Stealing Brad Armstrong" and my personal favourite "Haiku Reading Jeff Hardy" as well as a similar heel character for Jonathon Coachman to the one he does now in real life, only I was using it several years before the WWE did it.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

Usually real, but there's a couple of good ones I like with a few fictitious ones chucked in. I could never get into an all fictitious one though as I wouldn't be able to relate to anything going on at all.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why? (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

I do one weekly show with a PPV at the end of each month (with some bonus cards chucked in here and there) - for the weekly shows I just run the matches and then do a summary of all the incidents on the card at the end. For the PPV ones, I include full interviews and segments and such, and summarise everything that happens in each individual match at the end. Oh yeah, I never post pbp anywhere in there either, anything good that happens I can cover in my summary. If I'm posting my circuit online, then I'll shift any individual match summary from the end-of-card notes to the appropriate spot in the card and re-word it as necessary.

7) What kind of writeups do you like reading for other circuits and why?

Same as me but with all the interviews and segments on every show (IE someone who isn't as lazy as me).
Critic_of_the_DawnPosted on 04/18/04 at 21:37:56

On 04/18/04 at 19:57:57, 91 wrote:"Haiku Reading Jeff Hardy"
Dammit!  I had that idea too!  And here I thought I was being creative...

Anyway.

1) What circuits are you currently running?  Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

Presently I'm running NDW - New Deal Wrestling - using Rick's excellent Oldschool Ruleset.  Using a well written ruleset like that makes TNM even more fun, in my opinion, because half the time I'm as surprised as anyone else by the twists and turns that arise.  NDW is posted (at the moment) daily in the TNM Circuits forum here.

2) What other circuits do you currently read?  (include a links, if you can)

Presently I read pretty much everything in the circuits forum, especially BCW, which has helped to define my own card posting style a great deal.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time?  (include a link, if you can)

As far as my own circuits are concerned, I've always been fond of my first ever circuit, GMWF, which went something like 400 cards over the course of 3 game years before I abandoned it.  NDW is a lot of fun to write as well.  Others, I've got to say my favorite at present is Rick's BCW.  I have a soft spot for Oliver's old WWF circuit as well, however.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

99% real wrestlers.  Even if I don't know anything about them, I can do a bit of research or give them a gimmick.  Fantasy wrestlers is much tougher because you're not only writing storylines, you're creating whole new characters as well.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I have a very strong preference for real wrestlers, as I know enough about them to get into things easily, whereas fantasy wrestlers take a bit of work to understand their characters and get into things.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why?  (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

I take advantage of SE's ability to insert commentary after each match and include the PBP of the finish when possible, the results, and a short writeup.  When I post things here, I bold the match announcements and ratings, and italicize interviews for easier consumption.

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?

I prefer there to be at least some substance to the writeup.  Full match play-by-plays are too long, but major spots and/or the finish are very nice.  Commentary is also excellent, as it lets you seamlessly toss in all sorts of other fun stuff like post-match beat downs, etc.  If it's just results, it doesn't do too much for me, generally.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
LillaThrillaPosted on 04/19/04 at 19:34:30

Might post it here too if anyone cares to read it.
Go for it.

If you're planning on having around for awhile and don't want to make a website up for it, you might want to get your own forum on the Hardedge EZboard Forums.
91Posted on 04/21/04 at 01:42:25

On 04/19/04 at 19:34:30, LillaThrilla wrote:

Go for it.

If you're planning on having around for awhile and don't want to make a website up for it, you might want to get your own forum on the Hardedge EZboard Forums.
Well since you asked so nicely...  ;)

And I would get my own forum but I won't have a constant internet connection for a few months yet (only using it when I can get in the uni computer labs) but could you link me anyway for future reference?
LillaThrillaPosted on 04/22/04 at 04:18:16

http://b32.ezboard.com/bhardedgewrestlinguniverse
TecmoNickPosted on 04/22/04 at 04:38:36

1) What circuits are you currently running?  Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.

I was running the New Age Wrestling Federation for a few weeks, but as always, things didn't work out.  I never end up with a roster that I enjoy working with top to bottom.  I'm sure I'll have something new up using Rick's rules soon.

2) What other circuits do you currently read?  (include a links, if you can)

I have been reading BCW for a while now.  Rick post's the cards in the Circuits forum, now.  I also like Eric's NDW quite a bit.  NDW has a unique roster that makes for a good read.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time?  (include a link, if you can)

Oliver's WWF Circuit has to be my all-time favorite.  It is amazing how fun it was to read even though there was very little promos or play by play.  He booked it real well.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

I have never ran a circuit without all real wrestlers.  I think created wrestlers could be fun if each character had some background, but I'll be honest, I'm too lazy to get involved with that.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

Real wrestlers.  I'm too lazy to create new wrestlers, as well as try and figure out what the hell your created wrestlers are all about.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why?  (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)

Results with short writeups...

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?

See BCW and NDW.  You don't need to write a novel to give the readers enough information to keep interested.
Critic_of_the_DawnPosted on 04/22/04 at 13:47:43

On 04/22/04 at 04:38:36, TecmoNick wrote:
I have been reading BCW for a while now. Rick post's the cards in the Circuits forum, now. I also like Eric's NDW quite a bit. NDW has a unique roster that makes for a good read.
That's French for "Isn't main evented by Raven, Tazz, Sting, AJ Styles, Chris Benoit, and Vader," yes? ;D

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Jesse DayPosted on 04/29/04 at 21:54:26

1) What circuits are you currently running? Tell us a bit about them and if you post them anywhere.
I'm the one responsible for the long-running circuit Violent Championship Wrestling, which is equal parts melodrama, sleaze, good wrestling, and bad booking, and the zany Ultimate Supreme Wrestling, designed to amuse or insult the intelligence of anyone reading. They're both on my co-owned website, www.courageourknights.com.

2) What other circuits do you currently read? (include a links, if you can)
A lot of my favorite circuits are in the past. These days, I tend to read Josh Liller's stuff, Xavier Flair's ICW, and occasionally Matt Harms's NAWA. All this stuff can be found on the Hardedge Forums.

3) What's your favorite circuit of all time? (include a link, if you can)
Unfortunately, it's no longer on-line, and it was very short-lived, but I've never seen anything as good as Rob Queen's TxW. Ian's SMCW was a close second (it was actually better than the original SMWA) but it's also off-line.

4) Do you prefer booking & writing circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?
Fictional wrestlers. It gives me more freedom to operate. Though I've used real wrestlers on a few occasions.

5) Do you prefer reading circuits with real wrestlers, fictious wrestlers, or a mix?

Fictional wrestlers, without a doubt. How in the world do you expect me to keep your Eddie Guerrero and Raven seperate in my mind from the ones in the next circuit over? But for a good fictional wrestler circuit, detailed profiles are a must. A person can't see inside your imagination, and it's nice to be able to visualize what's going on.

6) What kind of writeups do you like doing for circuits and why? (i.e. massive play-by-play, results with short writeups, results with some TNM-generated PBP, results w/o writeup, etc)
Detailed summary for most weekly show matches, bare-bones summary for house shows, play-by-play for main events and all pay-per-view matches.

7) What kind of writeups do you reading for other circuits and why?
Play-by-play and summary are both fine if they get the important details across and make you feel the match and get excited about it. Quality is more important than quantity or type of writing in a lot of cases.