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Murphy42782Posted on 02/12/07 at 08:30:31

I recently bought a laptop and was lookin to install TNM on it. Any advice on how to install it on Vista, ive tried and failed and am not the best with computers...
King MunshunPosted on 02/12/07 at 11:35:04

With all the horror stories I've heard about Vista-coded programs not running properly on Vista, I shudder to imagine the headaches and coding nightmares necessary to get TNM7 to run on it.

I'm not saying it isn't possible... just not easy.
UnrightPosted on 02/13/07 at 01:20:02

Sorry, can't help you. I'm not planning to invest in a copy of Windows Vista in the foreseeable future.

Have you already sent an e-mail to Oliver?
CrplsPosted on 02/17/07 at 18:37:47

Having the same trouble. Just emailed Oliver. It will work in DOSBox, but it's a bit cumbersome and I haven't figured out how to change the window size...
CrplsPosted on 02/17/07 at 19:41:10

If you email Oliver, he should be able to send you the updated program files that he just got to me and fixed the issue.
Murphy42782Posted on 02/18/07 at 07:51:59

sweet, thanks man just did that, now I must wait. Damn It I havent TNMed in like a week. lol
Rick GarrardPosted on 02/19/07 at 02:09:06

Mwahahaha... you bought Vista.... {falls off chair}  

Even the folks that all used to work on TechTV (Leo LaPorte, Patrick Norton... the rest of the usual gang of idiots have been touting that you shouldn't get Vista unless you have to on their respective Podcasts for the TWiT network and DL.tv network.

Now for those of you that have... try running TNM from the command prompt (the good ol' DOS box) and if you get any errors, email Oliver as mentioned above

{gets off floor and resumes computing}

For those that bought Vista, can I interest you in copies of Win95 and WinME?  It seems that every other Windows operating system is brutal at first until they get all the bugs worked out for retro fitting old software to them.  And it so happens that Vista is the every other one this time.  In fact, I'm to the point where I'm probably getting a Mac when it's time to upgrade from this machine.
CrplsPosted on 02/19/07 at 07:17:20

Didn't buy it--came with the laptop and was the only option for OS for it. I've very rarely had the troubles most people seem to with Windows, although I generally haven't got versions until a couple years into them and I'm upgrading.

I had a Windows Explorer crash 5 minutes in, but haven't had any problems since (other than getting TNM to work). Yet.
Rick GarrardPosted on 02/19/07 at 17:38:28

Yet. :)

That's the SAFEST way to install Vista btw ... ya know preinstall on a new machine.

Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer?  And if it was IE... what are you doing still using IE?!?  ;)
ZedjaPosted on 02/19/07 at 18:12:44

I still use IE. I actually prefer it over Firefox.
Rick GarrardPosted on 02/19/07 at 18:26:22

IE7 is a nice knockoff of tabbed browsing from Firefox which is a nice knockoff of tabbed browsing that Opera had almost a year before Firefox went public.  Opera is free (used to have ads back before version 7, but hasn't for a long time now, as they are above version 9 now.  I still use Opera 8.5 because it's so stable, I haven't found a need to upgrade)  And talk about not being a memory hog.  I found Firefox to be slow on startup, whereas Opera opens fast.

I haven't used Firefox since it's original release.  Opera has had an IRC client, a mail program, a rss feed aggregator since 8.5 built into the software and it still maintains a smaller footprint than IE7.  Bloatware is not your friend.
JakePosted on 02/19/07 at 22:25:19

On 02/19/07 at 18:26:22, Rick Garrard wrote:I found Firefox to be slow on startup, whereas Opera opens fast.
Firefox Preloader. :)
CrplsPosted on 02/19/07 at 22:42:37

Windows Explorer or Internet Explorer?  And if it was IE... what are you doing still using IEHuh  Wink
Windows Exploder. Haven't used IE for years...
Rick GarrardPosted on 02/20/07 at 00:36:43

On 02/19/07 at 22:25:19, Jake wrote:
Firefox Preloader. :)
A more well written program would come with that as part of said program.  ;)
pszPosted on 03/18/07 at 18:35:40

Vista 64 on this machine, Vista 32 on the other.

Faster, no crashes, and if Creative would get their heads out of their Driver-Coding-Impaired-Asses, everything would actually be running better than XP on both. (I miss soundfonts :-<)

(Note: Considering I'm still using such an "old" sound card as my Audigy 2 ZS Platinum, I'm not holding my breath for that)

Other than DOS and Win16 apps, pretty much everything I run works fine.

As for TNM7:

Dosbox(greatest. app. ever.) runs TNM7 FE perfectly. Build 5 of SE is Vista Compatible (according to the post on the main-page).

I don't see any problems.
JakePosted on 03/18/07 at 23:22:25

On 03/18/07 at 18:35:40, psz wrote:Dosbox(greatest. app. ever.) runs TNM7 FE perfectly.
Pffft. Who uses First Edition anymore?

If DOSbox could run Second Edition (mainly run matches) then it would be the "greatest. app. ever." Well, if it also didn't lag between menus.
pszPosted on 03/20/07 at 02:10:32

Set the CPU to Max instead of 3000 cycles (the default) and set TNM's internal speed to faster than usual (I always cranked it in actual DOS, so I do the same in DOSBox :-P)

I recommend one of the CVS Builds (specifically this one: http://ykhwong.x-y.net) as it gives some very useful menus to DosBox (as well as Glide
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