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Submission Classes

RockshadePosted on 02/19/05 at 20:03:49

I think there should be a distinction between submission holds meant to make the victim submit and ones meant to make the victim pass out.  For example, wrestlers often submit in the sleeper and Cobra Clutch, but pass out in the Figure Four.  Sometimes that will happen in real life, but not as often as it's happening in TNM.
rey619Posted on 02/19/05 at 20:07:42

That's actually a good suggestion. Someone would be pinned before they passed out in a figure four submission.
Oliver CoppPosted on 05/15/05 at 13:23:51

That is an excellent suggestion - and noted :)
DarkAndEvilBastardPosted on 07/25/05 at 22:56:12

Just keep in mind that there are exceptions to some rules...

The Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock would surely be a submission move...but arguably the most famous match of Steve Austin's career ended with him passing out in it.
JoeDesertratPosted on 11/29/05 at 05:57:36

The Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock would surely be a submission move...but arguably the most famous match of Steve Austin's career ended with him passing out in it.
At the other extreme I had a top wrestler pass out in a wristlock within 15 seconds. Perhaps adding a checkbox for submission moves allowing them to cause a victim to possibly pass out in the move.