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The "make up your fucking mind" thread

AnubisPosted on 03/22/06 at 12:47:21

I figured that if it worked for the Training Camp, it'd work here. I took screenshots of the random insanity plaguing my TEW2004 since I modded the data files. Here it is!

http://www.geocities.com/imperiacorporation/index.htm
AnubisPosted on 03/23/06 at 22:52:03

Wow, that was quite a meltdown, wasn't it?  I'm looking back at it and even I think I'm as psycho as Mickie James!

Well, in case it isn't clear, this is why I'm not good at running entire projects like e-feds and such.  I have very little stress tolerance.

If I ever do get back into this posting a circuit thing, I promise I'll make sure to take certain "precautions" first.  I just hope I haven't lost any respect around here because of my meltdown.  I really am sorry.
UnrightPosted on 03/24/06 at 01:05:48

Eh.. It's kinda funny if you take a look back to the definition of a Cutting Edge fed.  ;)

Don't worry about it though. EWR/TEW are really cool complex programs, but with complexity comes glitches and burnout. It's simpler, it works right (knock wood) and it leaves much more room for imagination.
AnubisPosted on 03/24/06 at 23:04:56

Thing is, no one was interested in my TNM circuits; they didn't start liking it until I went with that.

With that said, I've considered starting a new circuit, but this time starting out on my own as a little backyard fed with a bunch of yard-tards. There is no way no how I'm gonna write out all my results again, though. Still, the game does give results. They're not that freaking good, but they're better than nothing I suppose.

If I do this, though, it would be a long and tough road, and there probably wouldn't be any "big names" for a long freaking time. The format would be as follows:

Indy Events: TEW-generated results for normal matches, hand-written results for main event matches and feud climax matches, and TNM-style reporting.

B-Shows: TNM-style results only.

Flagship Shows: TEW-generated results with TNM-style reporting.

PPV Shows: Hand-written results plus TNM-style reporting.

So how would people like that? I can promise not to do any modding of the data files manually to avoid the glitch headache (since that's probably what caused that nonsense; there is a file editor, but it just can't be used for everything, just certain things), but the match writing was what burned me out more or less. So if I can limit how much of it I need to do, I can keep it going and not get burned out.

So would I be able to get another chance perhaps? Certainly I'm not the only person to ever start over. Thing is, would people be interested in seeing me build up my own promotion from scratch?

Now the thing is, the people I would start with would be people I know from real life, and since it'd be impossible to train them up the normal way due to in-game limitations, I would get boosts at certain points for characters.  Thankfully, there is an in-game editor for workers, so there would be no risk there.  Probably something like my real-life people would get boosts each time the promotion rises in size:

Local - default.
Small - over 10% in one region.
Regional - over 30% in one region.
Cult - over 45% in two or more regions.
National - over 65% in 75% of the regions in the home area, and a minimum of 30% in all of them.
International - National at home, plus over 45% in 4 or more foreign regions.
Global - International, plus 60% in at least 5 foreign regions.
Snabbit888Posted on 03/24/06 at 23:10:35

Your problem is you keep judging your circuits based on what others are thinking. Who cares if people don't comment?  Do it for yourself.  I mean, honestly, I tried to read your TEW stuff but I found it to be dull and contrived mostly because of the cookie cutter options of TEW.  It's almost like you're not even booking - you're just picking whatever options they give you that you like the best.

I would be much more interested in seeing what you'd do with a TNM circuit at this point, because I can say with full honestly I won't bother reading a TEW one.

My point here isn't to bring you down or whatever.  You enjoyed your TEW stuff so hey, more power to you.  That's what it most important.  You're just not going to please everyone, nor should you be able to.  Just do what you like, and who gives a fuck if we comment.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 03/25/06 at 00:29:41

TEW is nice, but it doesn't accurately simulate the wrestling business as it seem people think. I know Oliver agreed with that statement.

I don't really want to bother with financial statements, merchandise, etc. I just want to simulate wrestling results, which TNM does perfectly for the most part. Wait until Oliver takes TNM to Windows, it'll show TEW a thing or two.
Rick GarrardPosted on 03/25/06 at 01:29:04

*slaps The Rock Star*  Shhhh. ;)  Open da fridge and not da Windows.  

Trust me, doing a circuit for message board replies and approval is usually not a good idea.  Some of my best stuff actually has gotten very little to no response, but some of my worst, gets the most comments because I have to provide explanations as to why certain things went down the way they did.

I know that if I post a card for one of my existing circuits that I am guaranteed about 10 reads from the regular readers on the boards usually within the first 24-48 hours.  I also know that if I post a completely new circuit, I get fewer reads until I have amassed a few cards so people can get the feel for the circuit I am doing.  Looking back, some of my biggest cards have had upwards of 20+ unique user hits (discounting down for the large quantity of re-readers for each new reply that is posted).

As Captain Wombat said, do the circuit for yourself first, and the readers second.  Chances are if you like how it is progressing, so will your readers.  And if they don't they usually let you know by either not returning to read the next card or by posting what they don't like.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 03/25/06 at 03:55:00

I agree. Replies are nice, but if people are at least taking time to read what is posted that means a lot too.
AnubisPosted on 03/25/06 at 06:41:55

On 03/24/06 at 23:10:35, Snabbit888 wrote:Your problem is you keep judging your circuits based on what others are thinking. Who cares if people don't comment?  Do it for yourself.
Oh, I know.  I'm past that.  I actually pay more attention to the "number of times read" number these days.  Still, the reason it may sound like that is because of two reasons.  First off, well, I always have this habbit of trying to get approval from people (which conflicts with my outspoken and argumentative nature, as you can imagine).  Second, I just didn't want the people who were reading it to just give up on it.

On 03/24/06 at 23:10:35, Snabbit888 wrote:I mean, honestly, I tried to read your TEW stuff but I found it to be dull and contrived mostly because of the cookie cutter options of TEW.  It's almost like you're not even booking - you're just picking whatever options they give you that you like the best.
I understand, and it's fine.  I notice that you and I have drastically different tastes in what we like to see from these things.  I tried getting into your circuit as well, but I found myself having the same problems you're having with mine.  It actually makes sense if you think about it.  If you're not enjoying what I'm putting out because your tastes are different, of course it's likely that the opposite is true as well.

I guess it's like this . . . Puro fans don't usually like hardcore wrestling, sports entertainment fans don't usually like puro wrestling . . . It's baout what you like.  I'm not naive enough to think that everyone around here is gonna like my stuff.  Most people on this forum have a tough enough time agreeing on anything, much less something like this. ;)

Seriously, though, it's cool, you can't please everyone, I know that.  If I could, I wouldn't be hanging around here all the time, I'd be in TNA propelling them to the next level, or in WWE fixing things, or in ROH helping them to get going.  Something like that, hahaha. ;)

On 03/24/06 at 23:10:35, Snabbit888 wrote:I would be much more interested in seeing what you'd do with a TNM circuit at this point, because I can say with full honestly I won't bother reading a TEW one.
Honestly, TNM is too much upkeep.  With my perfectionist nature, I always found myself trying to edit every move so that it had the correct name and 100% accurate parameters, and I'd go into each profile fixing every little thing.  It got to be a headache.  That and there being no wrapping text, I had to edit all that myself.  Too much editting, not to mention there were no limits, so it felt like I was just a wrestling GOD putting on shows with only the best talent without any competition.

On 03/24/06 at 23:10:35, Snabbit888 wrote:My point here isn't to bring you down or whatever.  You enjoyed your TEW stuff so hey, more power to you.  That's what it most important.  You're just not going to please everyone, nor should you be able to.  Just do what you like, and who gives a fuck if we comment.
It's all good.

On 03/25/06 at 00:29:41, HugeRockStar760 wrote:I don't really want to bother with financial statements, merchandise, etc. I just want to simulate wrestling results, which TNM does perfectly for the most part. Wait until Oliver takes TNM to Windows, it'll show TEW a thing or two.
See, I love the micro-managing.  I love it love it love it.  SimCity 4 was cool except that it drained all my 512MB RAM within about 30 minutes of starting because the programmers didn't know how to properly initiative memory reservation sequencing or whatever the fuck it's called where the CPU conserves memory and frees it back up after using it.

On 03/25/06 at 01:29:04, Rick Garrard wrote:As Captain Wombat said, do the circuit for yourself first, and the readers second.  Chances are if you like how it is progressing, so will your readers.  And if they don't they usually let you know by either not returning to read the next card or by posting what they don't like.
I understand.  Oh, and speaking of your circuit, when are you gonna post again?  I do thoroughly enjoy your circuit, and can't wait to see what happens next.

On 03/25/06 at 03:55:00, HugeRockStar760 wrote:I agree. Replies are nice, but if people are at least taking time to read what is posted that means a lot too.
Yup.  Just as long as people will still read, that's all I needed to know. ;)