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RING OF HONOR - 5/7/05 - NYC

Shaun SindelmanPosted on 05/08/05 at 22:59:18

**I've decided to use TNM to to do a small thing where I simulate the Ring of Honor events starting with the NYC one that happened last night and compare them to what actually happened**

New Yorker Hotel - 5/7/05

[Losers split up]:
Deranged and Izzy defeated Azrael and Dixie when Deranged pinned Dixie with the Blueprint in 0:10:31.
Rating: ** 3/4

This was supposed to be a 3 way between Deranged/Izzy, Azrael/Dixie, and Marcos/Dunn but Marcos & Dunn were attacked prematch by The Carnage Crew
(HC Loc & Tony Devito) so it became a regular tag match.

Izzy & Deranged did indeed win the match so TNM is 1-0 in it's results.
Nigel McGuinness made Colt Cabana submit to an abdominal stretch in 0:01:11.
Rating: **

Right again ... well sorta, Cabana was pinned by Nigel after a hit to the balls.
James Gibson pinned Black Tiger with the Tiger Driver in 0:13:24.
Rating: ** 1/4

3-0 but Gibson made Tiger submit at the event.
Roderick Strong and Jack Evans defeated BJ Whitmer and Jimmy Jacobs when Strong pinned Whitmer with the CX '03 in 0:09:42.
Rating: **
(Roderick Strong and Jack Evans won the World Tag Titles.)

WRONG!!! 3-1
Samoa Joe pinned Jay Lethal with the Island Driver in 0:16:53.
Rating: ****
(Samoa Joe won the PURE Title.)

Joe did indeed win so 4-1 and THE CHAMP IZ HERE!
After the match, Low Ki and The Rottweilers attacked both Lethal and Joe.
INTERMISSION

Dog Collar No-Countout-No-DQ-Match:
Jimmy Rave pinned CM Punk with the Northern Lights Bomb in 0:09:13.
Rating: *** 1/4

5-1 and just like at the event, Punk was a gusher in TNM world as well.
Austin Aries defeated Alex Shelley when Alex Shelley passed out in the Rings Of Saturn in 0:13:42.
Rating: **** 1/4
(Austin Aries retained the World Title.)

6-1 for TNM.

After the match, Low Ki and The Rottweilers confronted Aries who walked away from them as Samoa Joe & Jay Lethal attacked The Rotts from behind.
[Unscheduled Bonus Match]:
Samoa Joe and Jay Lethal defeated Low Ki and Homicide when Lethal pinned Homicide after a flying legdrop in 0:07:35.
Rating: ** 1/2

Unfortunately, TNM got this one wrong so TNM ends the night with a 6-2 record.
Card rating: *** 1/4
Shaun SindelmanPosted on 05/08/05 at 23:06:06

Analysis of the Lethal/Joe PURE match results from TNM - how well does TNM handle PURE style?

They lock up.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a clothesline.
Samoa Joe runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits a clothesline on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal goes for a backbreaker, but Samoa Joe blocks it.
Samoa Joe goes for a slap, but Jay Lethal reverses it.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a dragon suplex.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, shoulder up.
Jay Lethal gives him a chop, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Samoa Joe goes for a wristlock, but Jay Lethal reverses it.
Samoa Joe is valiantly trying to break the hold.
Samoa Joe inches his way towards the ropes after 11 seconds.

Joe uses the first of 3 rope breaks

Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a high knee.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a dragon suplex.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Jay Lethal gives him a bodyslam, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Jay Lethal hits a high knee on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal goes for a clothesline, but Samoa Joe ducks out of the way.
Samoa Joe chops Jay Lethal.
The crowd is starting to get behind Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with a flying forearm.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, shoulder up.
Samoa Joe runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a shoulderblock.
Jay Lethal uses a stomp on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Samoa Joe misses with a shoulderblock.
Jay Lethal hits a clothesline on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits a high knee on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal nails Samoa Joe with a flying legdrop.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Jay Lethal works the crowd.
A few fans are booing Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a shoulderblock.
Jay Lethal takes Samoa Joe down with a forearm smash.
Jay Lethal goes for an enzuigiri, but Samoa Joe ducks out of the way.
Samoa Joe uses a Samoan Drop on Jay Lethal.
Samoa Joe works the crowd.
The crowd is starting to get behind Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe whips Jay Lethal into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a kick.
Jay Lethal uses a flying headbutt on Samoa Joe.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, shoulder up.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a chop.
Jay Lethal gives him a forearm smash, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes.
Jay Lethal misses with a clothesline.
Jay Lethal hits a side suplex on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a back elbow.
Jay Lethal goes for a backbreaker, but Samoa Joe counters it with a facerake.
Samoa Joe goes for a front facelock, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal uses a backbreaker on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal throws Samoa Joe out of the ring.
Charles Robinson counts: one, two, Samoa Joe reenters the ring.
Jay Lethal executes a clothesline on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a shoulderblock.
Jay Lethal executes a stomp on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal is going for the pin.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Jay Lethal nails Samoa Joe with a forearm smash.
Jay Lethal gives him a kneedrop, but Samoa Joe doesn't even care.
Jay Lethal hits a back elbow on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal hits a European uppercut on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal gives him an enzuigiri, but Samoa Joe doesn't even care.
Jay Lethal gives him a DDT, but Samoa Joe doesn't even care.
Jay Lethal uses a back elbow on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal goes for a back elbow, but Samoa Joe ducks out of the way.
Samoa Joe runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal misses with a shoulderblock.
Samoa Joe misses with a clothesline.
Jay Lethal gives him a kick to the midsection, but Samoa Joe doesn't budge.
Jay Lethal gives him a kick to the midsection, but Samoa Joe doesn't budge.
Samoa Joe uses a spinebuster on Jay Lethal.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a Buff blockbuster.
You can hear a few scattered fans cheering for Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe whips Jay Lethal into the ropes.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a kick.
Jay Lethal goes for a stomp, but Samoa Joe rolls out of the way.
Samoa Joe works the crowd.
A few fans are cheering on Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal misses with a clothesline.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a kick.
Samoa Joe goes for an enzuigiri, but Jay Lethal ducks out of the way.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a backbreaker.
Jay Lethal covers Samoa Joe.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a running neckbreaker drop.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, shoulder up.
Samoa Joe goes for a release German suplex, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal gives him a bodyslam, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
A few fans are booing Jay Lethal.
Samoa Joe chops Jay Lethal.
The crowd breaks into a "Joe! Joe! Joe!" chant.
Samoa Joe chops Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal punches Samoa Joe.

Jay Lethal gets a warning for the closed fist

A few fans are booing Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal gives him a chop, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Samoa Joe misses with a kick.
Jay Lethal misses with a shoulderblock.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a slap.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with an Aztecan suplex.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, in the ropes...
Samoa Joe goes for a boot scrape, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes.
Samoa Joe hits a rana on Jay Lethal.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a boot scrape.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with a slap.
Samoa Joe takes Jay Lethal down with an overhead belly-to-belly suplex.
Samoa Joe is going for the pin.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Samoa Joe catches Jay Lethal in a front facelock.
Jay Lethal is struggling to reach the ropes.
Jay Lethal manages to grab the ropes after being locked up for 8 seconds.

Jay Lethal uses the 1st of 3 rope breaks

Samoa Joe uses a Samoan Drop on Jay Lethal.
Samoa Joe goes for an overhead belly-to-belly suplex, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal executes a high knee on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal works the crowd.
You can hear a few scattered fans booing Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal sends Samoa Joe into the turnbuckle, but Samoa Joe reverses it.
Samoa Joe charges into the corner.
Samoa Joe is getting a good reaction from the crowd.
Samoa Joe punches Jay Lethal.

Samoa Joe gets a warning for the closed fist

The crowd is cheering on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal goes for a dragon suplex, but Samoa Joe counters it with a go-behind.
In turn, Jay Lethal counters it with an elbowsmash.
Jay Lethal goes for a forearm smash, but Samoa Joe blocks it.
Samoa Joe hits a dragon suplex on Jay Lethal.
The crowd is cheering on Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe uses an Aztecan suplex on Jay Lethal.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, in the ropes...
Samoa Joe goes for a kick to the chest, but Jay Lethal counters it with a legsweep.
Jay Lethal gives him a chop, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a DDT.
Jay Lethal is starting to get under the crowd's skin.
Jay Lethal hits a kneedrop on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal gives him a chop, but Samoa Joe only stares at him.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes, but Samoa Joe reverses it.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a shoulderblock.
Samoa Joe gets a front facelock on Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal inches his way towards the ropes after being locked up for 15 seconds.

Jay Lethal uses the 2nd of 3 rope breaks

Samoa Joe goes for a snap suplex, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal executes a kick to the midsection on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Samoa Joe hits Jay Lethal with a kick.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with a Yakuza kick.
Samoa Joe is getting a good reaction from the crowd.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with a snap suplex.
The crowd is cheering on Samoa Joe.
Samoa Joe whips Jay Lethal into the ropes, but Jay Lethal reverses it.
Jay Lethal goes for a high knee, but Samoa Joe side-steps and Jay Lethal only hits air.
Samoa Joe is going for the cover.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, in the ropes...
Samoa Joe goes for a Wrist Clutch Exploder, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal whips Samoa Joe into the ropes.
Jay Lethal takes Samoa Joe down with a back elbow.
Jay Lethal nails Samoa Joe with a dragon suplex.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Jay Lethal gives him a bodyslam, but Samoa Joe doesn't budge.
Jay Lethal gives him a chop, but Samoa Joe doesn't budge.
Samoa Joe goes for a guillotine choke, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal takes Samoa Joe down with a bodyslam.
Jay Lethal goes for a bodyslam, but Samoa Joe counters it with a small package.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Samoa Joe goes for a Yakuza kick, but Jay Lethal counters it with a legsweep.
Jay Lethal executes a bodyslam on Samoa Joe.
Jay Lethal puts Samoa Joe in a double reverse chinlock.
Samoa Joe reaches the ropes after being trapped for 5 seconds.

Samoa Joe uses the 2nd of 3 rope breaks

Jay Lethal goes for the Clutch Pumphandle Bomb, but he can't do it.
Samoa Joe counters it with an elbowsmash.
Samoa Joe goes for a forearm smash, but Jay Lethal blocks it.
Jay Lethal uses a dragon suplex on Samoa Joe.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, in the ropes...
Jay Lethal hits a dragon suplex on Samoa Joe.
Both combatants' shoulders are on the mat.
Charles Robinson counts: One, Jay Lethal lifts a shoulder, two, thr...shoulder up.
Jay Lethal goes for an enzuigiri, but Samoa Joe ducks out of the way.
Samoa Joe goes for a Tombstone, but Jay Lethal slides down his back.
Jay Lethal hits a German suplex on Samoa Joe.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, in the ropes...
Jay Lethal runs into the ropes.
Jay Lethal misses with a shoulderblock.
Jay Lethal hits Samoa Joe with a kick.
Jay Lethal goes for a stomp, but Samoa Joe rolls out of the way.
Samoa Joe is getting a good reaction from the crowd.
Samoa Joe is going for the cover.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, kickout.
Samoa Joe nails Jay Lethal with a spinebuster.
Samoa Joe is getting a good reaction from the crowd.
Samoa Joe gets a guillotine choke on Jay Lethal.
Jay Lethal tries to escape the hold.
Jay Lethal is valiantly trying to break the hold.
Jay Lethal tries to fight the pain.
Jay Lethal tries to fight the pain.
Samoa Joe lets go after 36 seconds.
Samoa Joe executes the Island Driver on Jay Lethal.
Samoa Joe goes for the pin.
Charles Robinson counts: One, two, three.
The chants for Samoa Joe are deafening.
rey619Posted on 05/09/05 at 23:09:28

Hehe.. very interesting project Shaun. I have tried that sometimes as well.. the simulating existing promotions thing.. but then all of a sudden they bring in a new wrestler who I don't have an export of and it's all messy and stuff.

The pure rules project was also quite cool. It certainly makes it possible to have a Pure Title in your circuit, it just needs a little work and a little tweaking if someone uses more than 3 rope breaks.
Shaun SindelmanPosted on 05/09/05 at 23:18:41

I agree - guess u culd use the PBP as a basis and prolly book from there whether u want to ignore certain punches or rope breaks to make the match go longer.

On 05/09/05 at 23:09:28, rey619 wrote:Hehe.. very interesting project Shaun. I have tried that sometimes as well.. the simulating existing promotions thing.. but then all of a sudden they bring in a new wrestler who I don't have an export of and it's all messy and stuff.

The pure rules project was also quite cool. It certainly makes it possible to have a Pure Title in your circuit, it just needs a little work and a little tweaking if someone uses more than 3 rope breaks.