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TerryFunkaPosted on 12/09/04 at 04:33:01

Should I even continue with these 2 circuits, posting them I mean.I see the views are high, but alot of those are mine.And out of 138 views only 2 replies in the CWF topic arent mine, what does that say to me? The New Wave of Wrestling, sure it only just started today, but 30 views and not 1 response by mine?

Now I can understand maybe 10 views without a response, but 138? Also 30 views without any kind of response? I just want to know should I even bother continue doing this? because I mean 138 views and  2 replies that arent mine isnt exactly very motivational and 30 views without 1 response isnt motivational either.

This may be perceived as whining, but I just want to know if I should even continue doing this.
americamamushiPosted on 12/09/04 at 05:21:17

It's not uncommon for a circuit not to get commented on.  I don't really remember ever getting but a few comments on any of the circuits I ever posted.  If you're trying to compare your circuit to like 91's, Snabbit888's, or CotD's then don't, trust me.  They are like... magical beings in the TNM world... not to inflate any egos.

It might be that for some reason you're style just isn't catching on with people's moods currently, maybe some people just don't have the time to comment all the time.  But it's like Rick Garrard told me one time when I first started posting my circuits, just because no one is commenting doesn't mean that no one is reading it.

Maybe it'd help if you seperate your cards into seperate posts.

The most important thing is if you're having fun.  If you are enjoying your circuit thats all that matters (and if you enjoy it chances are someone else will too) :D
Snabbit888Posted on 12/09/04 at 05:27:19

I agree with ol' Chrissy-poo.  If you do your circuits wanting to get comments, they won't last long.  I get some comments now, but it's taken me almost 9 months to build a fan base.  And even now, I don't get an astronomical amount of comments by any means.  Just keep hammering away and do it for you.  In reality, the readers don't matter.  If people read it and enjoy, great. If not, it shouldn't make or break a circuit.

If you're in it for comments, get out now, as the circuit will die anyway when it stops being fun.
americamamushiPosted on 12/09/04 at 05:31:45

On 12/09/04 at 05:27:19, Snabbit888 wrote:I agree with ol' Chrissy-poo
Of course you do.  I'm the cat's ass. ;)
Snabbit888Posted on 12/09/04 at 05:38:12

You do rock, old lady.
TerryFunkaPosted on 12/09/04 at 05:58:18

What I was saying is I have 138 + views for my circuits and the thing is without comments from people you dont really know what you are doing wrong, or doing right so you keep on doing the same thing.
Snabbit888Posted on 12/09/04 at 06:02:06

You don't know when you're running a circuit you don't post either, but does it stop you?  Nope.  You've posted four or five cards and have gotten more responses than I did in my first two months.  Just relax and post your stuff or don't.
americamamushiPosted on 12/09/04 at 06:10:49

On 12/09/04 at 05:58:18, TerryFunka wrote:What I was saying is I have 138 + views for my circuits and the thing is without comments from people you dont really know what you are doing wrong, or doing right so you keep on doing the same thing.
As long as you're having fun with it, you're not doing a dar-didly-arn thing wrong. :)
91Posted on 12/09/04 at 13:52:39

Don't worry too much about what you might be doing right or wrong, and book what you want to see - you'll have a lot more fun doing it (which is kinda the point) and it'll show in the cards themselves. Besides, the fact that the circuit has gotten 138 views is proof enough that you've got readership, so your posting it clearly isn't a waste of time.
DarkAndEvilBastardPosted on 12/09/04 at 18:11:14

On 12/09/04 at 05:27:19, Snabbit888 wrote:I agree with ol' Chrissy-poo. If you do your circuits wanting to get comments, they won't last long.

If you're in it for comments, get out now, as the circuit will die anyway when it stops being fun.
No offense, Ryan, but I am in COMPLETE disagreement here.

WCW-SF was done ENTIRELY because I'm a feedback whore, and it "not being fun" didn't kill it the first time...it was getting a steady girlfriend...ish.

And in each resurrection it was because Allan Phillips and Josh Cooper were the only ones who cared, and they bashed everything the other one liked, so I had a nervous breakdown.

PEOPLE...IT IS OKAY TO BE A FEEDBACK WHORE.

If Carp actually gave real feedback, I'd be doing BAW right now!
americamamushiPosted on 12/09/04 at 18:28:48

I'm a feedback whore too.  Just like I'm a comment whore in my LiveJournal.

But I think it'll help him if he tries not to worry too much about it, because sometimes for whatever reason (that usually can't be controlled) you just aren't gonna get comments no matter how hard you try.
DarkAndEvilBastardPosted on 12/09/04 at 18:35:45

It did take me about three months to get any feedback...when I "killed" WCW and brought in DiBiase as the new owner.

*sigh*

*revives WCW-SF for one more game month and then kills it again*
PulsarPosted on 12/09/04 at 20:22:20

I just have this to say. Some of us, like me, read circuits and cards like they are going out of style, but never comment. Personally, I shouldn't have to tell you you're doing a good job, or your world champion is a retard, that's in your own mind.

I do agree that feedback is nice, but I don't care if I get any at all. Half the time, all the feedback you get is "Hey, great card, do it again?" Which is, by the way, so generic it's unbelievable.

Personally, I think if you really want feedback, join an umbrella fed. Everyone usually makes SOME comment in those, such as the massive uproar when I had a 4* match with Test, or when I brought Kurrgan in as Christian problem solver in Mapleleaf Wrestling over in the GWA.
Snabbit888Posted on 12/10/04 at 02:35:08

On 12/09/04 at 18:11:14, DarkAndEvilBastard wrote:

No offense, Ryan, but I am in COMPLETE disagreement here.

WCW-SF was done ENTIRELY because I'm a feedback whore, and it "not being fun" didn't kill it the first time...it was getting a steady girlfriend...ish.

And in each resurrection it was because Allan Phillips and Josh Cooper were the only ones who cared, and they bashed everything the other one liked, so I had a nervous breakdown.

PEOPLE...IT IS OKAY TO BE A FEEDBACK WHORE.

If Carp actually gave real feedback, I'd be doing BAW right now!
That's fine. Just know you're wrong. ;)

DarkAndEvilBastardPosted on 12/10/04 at 04:05:42

Truthfully, I had more fun with WCW-SF BECAUSE of the comments than anything...which is why I started going to WrestleCrap for booking ideas...on one hand, I had people going nuts reading it, but then on the other they were thinking I was insane for wheeling out guys like Black Blood.

It's WAY too easy for me to do a fed that pleases *myself*...=)
Snabbit888Posted on 12/10/04 at 04:18:52

I can see your side of it.  I've just found when I do a circuit with the sole purpose being, "Oh boy, everyone is going to give me comments!" and then when it doesn't happen right away, the wind is taken out of my sail.  I completely agree that getting comments is awesome... I'm a huge comment whore too.  I just don't let the success of a circuit hinge on how many comments I get.
cerberosPosted on 12/15/04 at 22:21:05

I rarely get comments on my WWE Fed and don't get even close to the 138 visits.  I agree with everyone that you do it for your own entertainment.  Just my own two cents.

Geno aka Cerberos
HugeRockStar760Posted on 12/16/04 at 02:20:03

It's hard to give comments sometimes.  Maybe if people tailored specific questions on what they want comments on it would help.

I hate giving feedback just for the sake of feedback and satisfying egoes.  Genuine comments are always more appreciated.

HugeRockStar760Posted on 12/16/04 at 02:22:08

On 12/16/04 at 02:20:03, HugeRockStar760 wrote:It's hard to give comments sometimes. Maybe if people tailored specific questions on what they want comments on it would help.

I hate giving feedback just for the sake of feedback and satisfying egoes. Genuine comments are always more appreciated.

Another thing.  I get annoyed when people will stop posting a circuit on the basis that it didn't get feedback.  What if that was your own personal, favorite circuit?  Now, you have to start from square one.  

If you like your circuit, who cares what other people think.  Personally, I think the author of this thread should have continued with the old school circuit, especially considering it is unique and there's a demand for it considering Rick's old school circuit.
Critic of the DawnPosted on 12/16/04 at 02:24:53

In fairness to TerryFunka, I gather that he suffered a computer crash and lost the promotions he was working on.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
HugeRockStar760Posted on 12/16/04 at 02:27:23

On 12/16/04 at 02:24:53, Critic of the Dawn wrote:In fairness to TerryFunka, I gather that he suffered a computer crash and lost the promotions he was working on.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Oh, I apologize then.  I know all about that.  My hard drive crashed, and as luck has it, I had finally started and kept a circuit running that I enjoyed.  Of course, it's gone now since I needed a new hard drive.

I tried to re-create the circuit once I got the new hard drive, but it just wasn't the same.  Oh well.  Stuff like that happens.

Rick GarrardPosted on 12/16/04 at 03:30:11

Speaking from a frequent circuit poster's standpoint, I can tell you that after not having comments on like 11 CW cards in a row, I didn't give up.

It is mainly cause I am doing that circuit for my own enjoyment.  And on top of that, I knew that as long as I was getting readers on new posts I was in the thought of "people must enjoy what I am doing, or they surely would have said something" standpoint.  I have found that usually people on the 'net generally comment only on negatives and not on the positives of just about anything.  In doing so, I've taking an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude toward CW.  Of course, my last card got comments cause it was the first "major" card for the circuit, and I caused some controversy with the ending, thusly knowing it would create replies, making it more "special" to me and my readers.

If every card is the "most important card in your circuit's history", then it just becomes the standard, with no "specialness" for any card.  It's what I like to call the "devaluing of a special event".  Unfortunately, it's hard to set a "standard" until you've ran a bunch of cards and developed your "standard".  Then when you do a special card, it REALLY stands out from the rest, at least that's how I try to do it.

And yes, I too have tried to do a "you be the booker" fans circuit before.  And yes they are extremely HARD to do, unless you are writing mainly for yourself first.

And like I told the Americanmamushi one time.. just cause no one is replying, doesn't mean no one is reading.  I read a LOT of circuits.  And I tend to "borrow" some ideas from time to time from others.  Sometimes it helps to break the writers block for booking matches.
americamamushiPosted on 12/16/04 at 05:10:12

On 12/16/04 at 03:30:11, Rick Garrard wrote:And like I told the Americanmamushi one time...
Hurray for mentioning me in passing! :)
Rick GarrardPosted on 12/16/04 at 05:36:14

Hurray for mentioning me in passing!
you name checked me first ... so thank you.  :)
Snabbit888Posted on 12/16/04 at 06:20:14

I'll name check you into the boards, Rick!
americamamushiPosted on 12/16/04 at 07:50:37

Hey, I just had a thought.  If Anubis is gonna be a TNM boards heel maybe a couple of us should form a stable.  Ryan and Rick could be the tag team that doesn't get along but always manages to win somehow in the end, therefor prolonging their teaming for one more week. ;D

And I'll be a traditional 1960s heel to Anubis'... Anubis'... whatever he is *grabs fork*