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Tommy BrownellPosted on 08/29/05 at 22:52:32

Running the latest NLW show, I hit a couple of interesting snags with the Battle Royal function.

I wanted a four-team fatal fourway type, so I booked The Dudleyz vs Samoa Joe/Brock Lesnar vs Amazing Red/Sonjay Dutt vs Dustin Rhodes/Johnny B. Badd...

Dudleyz and Brock/Joe are all members of Heyman's stable The Franchise, and he's assigned to all four as manager...lets see clips of that match, courtesy of the TNM 7 Circuit Editor...

Brock Lesnar hits Bubba Ray Dudley with a shoulderblock.
Peter Dadiras slowly gets up.
Brock Lesnar catches Bubba Ray Dudley in a bearhug.
Jeff Nowacki crawls over to the ropes and uses them to get up.
Bubba Ray Dudley is valiantly trying to break the hold.
Bubba Ray Dudley reaches the ropes after 5 seconds.
Brock Lesnar takes Bubba Ray Dudley down with a headsmash into the turnbuckle.
Brock Lesnar hits Bubba Ray Dudley with a short clothesline.
** Paul Heyman enters the ring and hits Brock Lesnar with a chair.
The boos are resurfacing again.
Bubba Ray Dudley nails Brock Lesnar with a kneelift.
Bubba Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley whip Brock Lesnar into the ropes.
They hit Brock Lesnar with a double kick to the midsection.
Bubba Ray Dudley and D-Von Dudley whip Brock Lesnar into the ropes.
They attempt to hit Brock Lesnar with a double kick to the midsection, but he
counters it with a double clothesline.
Brock Lesnar whips Bubba Ray Dudley into the ropes.
Bubba Ray Dudley hits Brock Lesnar with a spear.
Bubba Ray Dudley hits a vertical suplex on Brock Lesnar.
Bubba Ray Dudley goes for a power bomb, but Brock Lesnar blocks it.
** Paul Heyman enters the ring and hits Brock Lesnar with a chair.
Bubba Ray Dudley doesn't quite know what to do with the mixed reaction he
's getting.
Bubba Ray Dudley goes for a reverse neckbreaker, but Brock Lesnar
counters it with a backward kick.
Brock Lesnar punches Bubba Ray Dudley.
The crowd is wildly cheering Brock Lesnar with only a few scattered boos
audible.
Brock Lesnar chops Bubba Ray Dudley.
The crowd is wildly cheering Brock Lesnar with only a few scattered boos
audible.
Brock Lesnar executes the F-5 on Bubba Ray Dudley.
Brock Lesnar doesn't quite know what to do with the mixed reaction he's getting.

Brock Lesnar goes for the pin.
Jeff Nowacki counts: One, two, Samoa Joe doesn't make it in time... three.
** Bubba Ray Dudley has been eliminated.
The crowd is wildly cheering Brock Lesnar with only a few scattered boos
audible.
The crowd is wildly cheering Brock Lesnar with only a few scattered boos
audible.

The winners are Brock Lesnar and Samoa Joe. Time of match: 0:37:11

Two points here...

1) Is Heyman supposed to attack his own men, even though he's also technically with their opponents?

More importantly...

2) Why's Samoa Joe trying to save Bubba?

I wound up turning the whole thing into an angle in which Brock realized they were out to get him, so he wiped them all out until Mike Awesome attacked, but yeah...at the least the tag partner trying to break up the pin should be looked at, probably.

Other thing...

I booked a 20 man battle royal for the first match, winner to take on Kazarian for the NLW belt in the main event.

After a grueling battle royal, Steve Austin won...

Time comes for the main, and the Visualizer brings up Kazarian and a blue box named 357.

The introduction says Kazarian's opponent is from "0", weighing "0" lbs, and is "0" 357.

Well, I started the match and then killed TNM, telling it to shut down the running match.

Glitch with the "w"inner function in the newest build, maybe?
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/30/05 at 10:09:48

Manager thing - I'll have a fix ready for that ASAP.

Joe thing - looks like there's still something to take care of in Tag Team Battle Royals :)

Austin thing - could you please give me any info you can on the Battle Royal? Was it set up such that there were mystery or random wrestlers involved? I just ran the constellation you mentioned and it worked fine.

Thanks!

Oliver
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/30/05 at 11:03:53

Manager & Joe should be fixed - http://www.tnm7.com/downloads/totmatch.zip.

Thanks!
Tommy BrownellPosted on 08/30/05 at 19:57:03

Nothing special about the battle royal at all...(except I actually wound up with three top guys left at the end...that's kinda impressive on its own...=P)

I took the top 20 guys who weren't scheduled to wrestle someone else and threw them in a regular battle royal.

Nothing random or no mystery guys, unbooked, using the "w"inner hotkey to insert them into the main against Kazarian.
Snabbit888Posted on 08/31/05 at 01:31:10

On 08/30/05 at 11:03:53, Oliver Copp wrote:Manager & Joe should be fixed - http://www.tnm7.com/downloads/totmatch.zip.

Thanks!
I always forget... where does this need to be unzipped?
rey619Posted on 08/31/05 at 07:42:56

I had the same issue with battle royals. Seems like it messes up when you put "winner of battle royal" into another match later on.
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/31/05 at 07:50:42

On 08/31/05 at 01:31:10, Snabbit888 wrote:

I always forget... where does this need to be unzipped?
Needs to go into the PROGRAM folder :)
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/31/05 at 08:23:37

rey - I just ran a test card in your TNM and the winners of the first two matches advance to the Battle Royal:

A1 defeated Ace Steel by disqualification in 0:06:22.
Rating: 3/4*

Todd Shane pinned Mike Shane with the Spinebuster in 0:10:30.
Rating: *** 1/4

20-Man Battle Royal:
Chris Vaughn won a 20-man Royal Rumble:
        x A1 and C. Daniels started out.
        x C. Daniels defeated A1 after a moonsault in 0:00:51
        x Buck Quartermain entered at 0:01:30
        x C. Daniels defeated B. Quartermain after
a double underhook piledriver in 0:02:57
        x Charlie Haas entered at 0:03:00
        x C. Haas threw out C. Daniels after a T-Bone Suplex in 0:03:47
        x Ebessan entered at 0:04:30
        x Ebessan threw out C. Haas after a Skytwister Press in 0:05:25
        x Todd Shane entered at 0:06:00
        x T. Shane threw out Ebessan after a Gorilla Press in 0:06:57
        x Anthony Franco entered at 0:07:30
        x T. Shane threw out A. Franco after a chop in 0:07:55
        x Danny Rose entered at 0:09:00
        x Elax entered at 0:10:30
        x D. Rose defeated Elax after a flying legdrop in 0:10:31
        x D. Rose defeated T. Shane after a backdrop driver in 0:11:15
        x Hydro entered at 0:12:00
        x Captain Mike Rotundo entered at 0:13:30
        x Eddie Chavez entered at 0:15:00
        x Altar Boy Luke entered at 0:16:30
        x Adam Flash entered at 0:18:00
        x Dragon Soldier B entered at 0:19:30
        x Eddie Guerrero entered at 0:21:00
        x Rotundo defeated Chavez in 0:21:13
        x Hydro defeated E. Guerrero after a jumping side kick in 0:21:19
        x Chris Masters entered at 0:22:30
        x Claudio Castagnoli entered at 0:24:00
        x Rotundo threw out C. Masters in 0:24:10
        x Chris Vaughn entered at 0:25:30
        x Castagnoli threw out D. Rose after a backdrop in 0:25:39
        x Rotundo defeated A. Flash in 0:26:06
        x Chance Beckett entered at 0:27:00
        x Castagnoli threw out Luke after a clothesline in 0:27:33
        x Castagnoli threw out Hydro in 0:27:35
        x C. Vaughn threw out C. Beckett in 0:31:53
        x Castagnoli defeated Rotundo after a hiptoss in 0:33:06
        x C. Vaughn threw out Soldier in 0:34:35
        x C. Vaughn threw out Castagnoli after a snap suplex in 0:37:23
Rating: *** 1/4
(Chris Vaughn won the GWA International Title.)


Card rating: ***


Worked fine for me... I'll have to keep trying.
ZedjaPosted on 08/31/05 at 08:25:57

Oliver: It was the other way around.

The winner of the Battle Royal was to compete later in the card.
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/31/05 at 08:39:02

Same result...
rey619Posted on 08/31/05 at 09:02:03

Chris Vaughn won the GWA International Title??

How strange.. I tried to do it right now but still this mysterious 0 from 0 pops up..
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/31/05 at 13:16:23

Please let me know exactly what matches you book with what options and what wrestling in which order.

Thanks!

Oliver
rey619Posted on 08/31/05 at 13:41:53

using my circuit, I book a battle royal with the four first wrestlers (A1, Ace Steel, Adam Flash and Altar Boy Luke.

Press yes on the four questions, don't check any flags.

I then booked a single match between the winner of the battle royal and Anthony Franco, didn't check any flags.

Again.. the winner of the battle royal (Ace Steel) is introduced as .. From 0.... weighing in at 0... "82" 635..
This creature is obviously a woman, since then it said:

"Her opponent..."

Then a run-time error occurs.
Oliver CoppPosted on 08/31/05 at 20:21:46

Darn... what am I supposed to say? I guess I'll just have to keep trying...

4-Man Battle Royal:
Adam Flash won a 4-man Royal Rumble:
        x A1 and Steel started out.
        x Adam Flash entered at 0:01:30
        x Steel threw out A1 in 0:01:52
        x A. Flash threw out Steel in 0:02:02
        x Altar Boy Luke entered at 0:03:00
        x A. Flash defeated Luke after a power bomb in 0:06:02
Rating: *** 1/4

Adam Flash pinned Anthony Franco after the Liger Bomb in 0:17:14.
Rating: ** 3/4


Card rating: ** 3/4
rey619Posted on 08/31/05 at 21:16:13

You don't have to spend a great deal of time on it Oliver, but the fact that more people encounter the same problem should mean that it is a problem. You can't think of a reason why this works with you and not with me? I mean, we're doing the exact same thing..
Tommy BrownellPosted on 08/31/05 at 21:24:27

FWIW, I set up a test circuit and ran a 20 man battle royal, winner facing Bret Hart....

Worked fine.  The only thing I can think now is maybe it's related to # of matches on the show (if that's possible)?

In my particular instance, there were 12 matches seperating the battle royal and the main event (where the Battle Royal winner was supposed to wrestle), including a tag team battle royal on the show.
Tommy BrownellPosted on 08/31/05 at 21:43:44

...and just ran a huge show, same # of matches, including a tag battle royal...worked fine.
rey619Posted on 08/31/05 at 23:14:41

In all my previous examples, the match with the battle royal winner alwas came right after the battle royal. I tried with a card with two matches in between.. same result..
Oliver CoppPosted on 09/01/05 at 20:01:23

So you can still reproduce this every time without fail?

In that case: could you please zip up your circuit's folder and send it my way?

Thanks!