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UnrightPosted on 03/12/05 at 02:44:20

My circuit keeps crashing with one of the following errors...

Error 5 (actually got this trying to hire wrestlers)
Error 53 (while booking cards)
Error 58 (while booking cards)
Error 75 (during a match)

Yes, I've run TNM 7 Diagnostic.

I'm running WinXP and I'm using the command prompt to run TNM7SE in Dos mode.

This sucks.. I paid hard-earned money for this game. Any help? Where's Oliver?
americamamushiPosted on 03/12/05 at 04:52:29

Oliver is still away on business I believe so it still might be a couple days till you hear from him.  Fortunately alot of the regulars are pretty good at helping with the technical issues themselves... I'm not one of them, but there is hope.  Just hang in there. :)

P.S. Welcome to the boards
Critic of the DawnPosted on 03/12/05 at 05:59:34

How long have these problems been happening?  Since you installed the program, or just recently?  Do you have any idea as to what might have started them (for instance, installing an update or plugin, messing around with some of the files manually, a system crash with the program active, etc)?  I'm not really familiar with any of them, but a little more information might be helpful to Oliver when he gets back.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
UnrightPosted on 03/12/05 at 13:55:43

I've just started playing TNM7 the other week.. I got Error 53 a lot while booking cards..

So then I took the plunge and paid for TNM7SE a few days ago, so all four of these errors have been there since the get-go.

Just a little frustrated, is all..
Critic of the DawnPosted on 03/12/05 at 16:22:02

Well, Oliver is pretty reliable at fixing problems, so I expect once he gets back he can help you out.

One thing you might want to try is downloading and installing a second copy of TNM on your computer.  Do the errors also occur in the second install?

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
UnrightPosted on 03/12/05 at 23:49:41

Not sure if it worth doing. I've deleted everything and re-installed it a couple of times already.

Critic of the DawnPosted on 03/13/05 at 03:38:16

So the problem does persist when you do that?  Strange.  I take it you're using Build 3b with Service Pack 2 in XP, yes?  I really don't have any ideas, but I'm trying to make sure that Oliver has as much information as possible when he returns so he can fix things up for you quickly.  From the sounds of it, he may need you to send him your TNM zipped up so he can poke around at it until it works, but... who knows.

Hope your problems get solved soon, man.  TNM is a great program, and it sucks to hear that you're running into all the problems that you are.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
rey619Posted on 03/13/05 at 04:23:32

Service pack 2 can mess up a lot of things though... including TNM... but you should wait until Oliver gets back... the TNM community really only got 1 person that can help you out... but the user support is still 100 times better than anything else you have experienced  ;D
UnrightPosted on 03/13/05 at 13:46:05

Come to think of it, I can't remember if I installed Service Pack 2.. Is there an easy way to check?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 03/13/05 at 15:19:50

When your computer starts up and the WinXP graphic displays with the scrolling bar under it, is that bar green or blue?  If it's blue, you have SP2.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
UnrightPosted on 03/14/05 at 03:24:24

Green or blue, huh? Sounds like a pregnancy test.

I checked it. It's blue.. But more than that, I was doing some reading and I found this in the manual:

Maximum Number Of Matches Per Card
The number entered here controls the number of matches you can have on any given card. Tournaments count as one match. This is not an arbitrary number but depends on the amount of free conventional memory on your system. If you find that the match scheduler crashes without any good reason (is there ever?) you might want to try reducing the maximum number of matches per card. The default is 50.
The match scheduler does seem to crash the most often for me. Of course, it'll crash on the third match, so limited the number of matches to two isn't real attractive.

Is there a simple way to free up conventional memory?

Edit: Nevermind. I just remembered that was what the Error 7 problem was about. I ran memmaker and I got:

Largest executable program size: 595056 (581.1k)
So that should be enough... I'm open to sugestions.
Critic of the DawnPosted on 03/14/05 at 15:01:34

Hmm...  If you have TweakCirc, you can lower the maximum allowed matches in a card, which might help, I suppose.  Then again, it might not.  I'm really grasping at straws here - the only guy who can do more than offer you hoops to jump through is Oliver.  Hopefully he'll be back from his business trip soon.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Rick GarrardPosted on 03/14/05 at 15:32:54

how many wrestlers are in the database of the TNM copy in question?

(That seems to be the first thing starts spewing errors on most copies, like when users install the entire allwrest file.)
UnrightPosted on 03/14/05 at 19:42:44

On 03/14/05 at 15:32:54, Rick Garrard wrote:how many wrestlers are in the database of the TNM copy in question?

(That seems to be the first thing starts spewing errors on most copies, like when users install the entire allwrest file.)
Around 800 or so..  

That's a good idea though. I'll parse it down to about 200 and see if the error keep occuring.

Edit:

I re-downloaded TNM into a seperate directory and only imported the RAW and SMACKDOWN files off the main page. (That's a little less than a 100 workers) Worked well for a card, but I just got a Error 58.
Oliver CoppPosted on 03/22/05 at 15:47:57

Unright - please send me your TNM and I'll see what I can do. I'm sorry for you having to wait for such a long time.

Thank you for your patience.
UnrightPosted on 03/22/05 at 23:39:00

Thanks..

Sorry for having such a vague error as nothing in paticular seems to trigger it.  I've just gotten in the habit of making a lot of backups so it doesn't ruin my circuit.

I'll have it sent to you later today (or early tomorrow)
UnrightPosted on 04/02/05 at 08:23:44

Allright...

I had a short e-mail exchange with Oliver, but I haven't heard from him in a week now. He's confirmed that my copy of TNM works fine. That's great and all but I still have to try to book a card at least 20 times before I can save it.

The error I get while booking is always the same.  

Error 58 at pgm-ctr: 281922

I get it randomly, but it seems to happen most often during the menus after selecting the wrestlers. Although not always.

Lately I just got this new error:

Error 58 at pgm-ctr: 82358

Which is a pain because it reset the wrestler list settings to that of a new fed. Which means that everyone is listed as "unsigned". The push levels are reset, a couple of renames, new nicknames, all gone.

I started hiring people back, but the error just keeps popping back up and resetting it again.

I guess I'll use TweakCirc SE to see if that'll be faster, but I don't want it to happen again.

This fucking sucks!  >:(

Sorry, just had to vent a bit..

I know TNM is a great program. I've played it since version 7 first came out. For whatever reason the computer I have now just doesn't want to work with it. I can play other DOS games just fine. Maybe it's Windows XP, maybe it's Service Pack 2.. Maybe it some weird driver somewhere, Maybe it's a memory conflict.. I don't know.

I know Oliver works 70 hours a week and this is his hobby on the side, but I paid $40 for TNM7, then $40 again for TNM7SE, plus $20-$30 for Plugins. I want this to work, but I don't know where to start.
Critic of the DawnPosted on 04/02/05 at 16:39:47

Of course it sucks.  TNM is a great program, and you're having problems with it that are making it difficult to play.  I'm sure Oliver will get to your problem as soon as he can, and that he'll be able to fix things without a problem once he does.  Unfortunately, his real job has to take precedence over this, and if anything at all is going on in his personal life, I can see it being very difficult for him to devote the time he'd like to helping people with TNM.

I understand that you're annoyed, but for all we know something major could be happening, like a death in the family or something like that.  He could also just be burnt out and in need of a week off.  Or... in LA for Wrestlemania.  Having known Oliver for several years through these boards, I certainly hope that it's the latter so I can grumble about him being a lucky bastard.  But my point is, we don't know, and since he's probably the only guy who can fix the problem, we have to be patient.

Hope your problem gets resolved ASAP, though. :)

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
Easyc23Posted on 04/06/05 at 05:42:34

I believe Oliver said he was coming to the states and to LA for Wrestlemania.  I know it was around the boards somewhere he said that.  
Oliver CoppPosted on 05/15/05 at 14:16:42

Marc ---

I'm sorry. I had been under the impression that somehow you got it to work because I didn't get a reply to the last e-mail I had sent you (that it had been working fine on my end).

I've already mailed you. Let's take it quickly from here.

Ever since SP2 came out, things have really sucked. SE works fine as is on most machines. If it doesn't, then that's literally when the shit hits the fan because so far, no two people been able to get it to work properly with the same code. There are at least ten code branches at this point.

I've tried to remedy this by speaking directly to people at Microsoft - who have been very helpful but also couldn't pinpoint the problem. They did mention that XP SP2 introduced new code restrictions for DOS programs but none that should affect programs that don't make use of device drivers. In a nutshell, they were very polite and did what they could but haven't been able to lead me in the right direction.

Rest assured work in the area is still going on, and sooner or later I *have* to find the source of the problem.