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TNMWA Ranking Matches 04/29/04
| TiLoBrown | Posted on 04/30/04 at 05:39:22 TNMWA Ranking Matches 04/29/04 Rowdy Roadie Rod pinned Robert Goodwin with the The Rod Bomb in 0:11:01. Rating: *** 1/4 The 18-49 Male Demographic defeated Rick Garrard when Rick Garrard passed out in the John Henson Project in 0:02:34. Rating: *** [John LaRue interfered against Rick Garrard.] Critic of the Dawn pinned Phudjie with the Super Ninja Headbutt of Doom in 0:14:05. Rating: -**** 1/2 Josh Engleman pinned Josh Liller after a small package in 0:11:02. Rating: **** 1/4 C.P. Duck pinned The Viking with the Titty Twister in 0:11:16. Rating: *** 1/2 BILL Lentz defeated Kid Vader via pinfall in 0:08:45. Rating: * 1/2 Oliver Copp defeated Chris Allen when Chris Allen passed out in the STF in 0:01:24. Rating: ** Michael Waldrop pinned The Phantom after a figure-four leglock in 0:00:28. Rating: * John Proulx made The Masked Truck Stop Guy submit to the Gentleman's Agreement in 0:13:49. Rating: ** Jeff Nowacki defeated John LaRue when John LaRue passed out in the Sharpshooter in 0:03:17. Rating: *** 1/4 TecmoNick pinned Lee Simpson after a power bomb in 0:06:32. Rating: **** 1/4 Jonny T defeated Andrew Perkins when Andrew Perkins passed out in the torture rack in 0:03:03. Rating: *** Justin Lance defeated The Adder by disqualification in 0:03:39. Rating: *** Kodoshin pinned Darryl Woodford with the Moon Princess Halation in 0:05:56. Rating: **** 1/4 [Robert Goodwin interfered against Darryl Woodford.] Lee Brice pinned Chase Ironside after a Western lariat in 0:04:41. Rating: *** 1/4 Triangle Match: Gene Bennett defeated Carlzilla and Jon Bernstein when G. Bennett defeated Carlzilla by disqualification in 0:12:42. Rating: *** 1/4 Team Workrate (Critic of the Dawn and Rowdy Roadie Rod) defeated Team TNM 2000 (Oliver Copp and Josh Liller) when The Critic pinned Copp after the Double Really Big Clothesline in 0:06:35. Rating: * Rick Garrard and TecmoNick defeated Randomly Thrown Together Tag Team Who Don't Even Know Each Other (Josh Engleman and Chris Allen) when The Rick Says pinned Allen with the Spine Adjuster in 0:10:14. Rating: *** 1/2 The Yu Dragon Rangers (John LaRue and Kodoshin) defeated The Major League Players (Robert Goodwin and The Viking) when ZRV pinned Viking after a fisherman suplex in 0:13:04. Rating: **** The Ethnic Express (Jeff Nowacki and The Masked Truck Stop Guy) defeated Two Hardcore Extremists (The Phantom and The Adder) when Nowacki pinned Adder after the Splash Mountain in 0:03:47. Rating: *** Michael Waldrop and Jonny T defeated The Hardcore Hooligans (Lee Brice and Lee Simpson) when Jon T. defeated Brice by disqualification in 0:05:29. Rating: **** 1/4 The First Tag Team For Men (C.P. Duck and The 18-49 Male Demographic) defeated AssasinXcore (Justin Lance and Carlzilla) when Duck defeated Carlzilla by disqualification in 0:11:05. Rating: **** [The Viking interfered against C.P. Duck.] Card rating: *** 1/4 |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 04/30/04 at 07:31:23 Ah, excellent. Not only do I defeat Phudgie, but I avenge my earleir unjust loss to Oliver Copp with a pinfall of my own. The Tag Team division had better learn to fear the Double Really Big Clothesline, Also of Doom, for it's quickly going to become the most lethal tag team move in history! Step aside, Doomsday Device, out of the way Dudley Death Drop, there's a new Murder Move in Town! Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |
| The Phantom | Posted on 04/30/04 at 15:11:34On 04/30/04 at 05:39:22, TiLoBrown wrote:Phantom: How the hell did I get pinned by the figure four in 28 seconds? I've never seen a count that fast. I demand an investigation into that ref on charges that he doesn't like masked men. |
| Magister369 | Posted on 04/30/04 at 15:40:23 Question, is that a bug with the figure-four? I noticed the same thing in my circuit |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 04/30/04 at 19:21:23Josh Engleman pinned Josh Liller after a small package in 0:11:02.Curses! The Other Josh pinned me. And with rollup no less! |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 04/30/04 at 19:51:07On 04/30/04 at 15:40:23, Magister369 wrote:Question, is that a bug with the figure-four? I noticedThere is a bug in TNM at present where all submission moves that can cause pinfalls will succeed 100% of the time at the first time it's checked. The Figure-Four is the most common move that has this as something that can happen, so this is called the Figure Four Bug. I'm not sure whether Oliver is going to fix the problem or not in the patch next month. Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |
| Oliver Copp | Posted on 05/01/04 at 10:12:13 It's not a bug per se... you just have to adjust the probability of it happening to your likings via TweakCirc SE... |
| TiLoBrown | Posted on 05/01/04 at 15:44:52On 05/01/04 at 10:12:13, Oliver Copp wrote:It's not a bug per se... you just have to adjust the probability of it happening to your likings via TweakCirc SE...Which I did, its set at like 5000 :) |
| Critic of the Dawn | Posted on 05/02/04 at 01:41:58On 05/01/04 at 10:12:13, Oliver Copp wrote:It's not a bug per se... you just have to adjust the probability of it happening to your likings via TweakCirc SE...Respectfully, I've set the probability of it happening as high as 500 (50 is normal, so this should be 1/10 as likely), and it still always results in a pinfall the first time it is checked. Adjusting the value in Tweakcirc SE seems to change the chance of a pinfall attempt occurring, not the chance of an attempt resulting in a successful pin. The Tweakcirc bit is working perfectly normally. It's the actual resolution of the attempts that seems to be bugged at present. In FE, it worked just fine - pinfall attempts were common, but an actual pinfall was rare unless it was used as a finisher. At present, Tweakcirc seems to be allowing us to adjust the probability of a 100% guaranteed successful pinfall attempt happening, which tends to give wrestlers using moves that check for this a huge advantage. In other words, normal pinfall checks look like this: Chance of move resulting in a pinfall attempt if opponent is on mat (some moves are 100%) -> Chance of successful pinfall based on remaining health & whether move was a finisher or finisher-like. Pinfall in submission checks look like this: Chance of move resulting in pinfall attempt (adjustable) -> 100% Guarangeed Pinfall If I'm misunderstanding you and that's actually how the SE adjustable pinfall in submission seed is supposed to work, then I apologise. If it's not, however, then there's got to be something loose somewhere in the program Because in 9 months or so, I've never seen anybody kick out of one of those attempts, and the chances of myself and several others observing that through sheer happenstance must be on the order of billions to one. If that is indeed how it's set up, however, then perhaps you would consider adding a new field in the Finisher Database to give the same lethality to non-submission moves: Murder Move. If checked, nobody will kick out of the move. Ever. If they're booked to win the match, the victim will always reverse out of it rather than take the hit. This would be sort of like The Undertaker's Tombstone in the early-mid 1990s WWF, the Tiger Driver, Jackhammer, etc. If your opponent hits it, you're done. ... Oh dear. This is all very off topic. Er... I'll get you, Oliver! (Rips off shirt and grimaces) Eric "Critic of the Dawn" |