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| TheImpalerTMX | Posted on 02/17/10 at 05:38:46 Seriously? WWE's name changes have officially jumped the shark. Ugh, they really would have been better off just debuting him on the main roster. I don't care if the audience doesn't know who he is - you can sell him on all his accomplishments around the world. The only justification for this is to make sure that this project doesn't become a total failure as they'll get one guarenteed great wrestler out of it. They better make getting rid of my favorite hour of wrestling on free TV worth my while. |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 02/17/10 at 07:27:17 I know it's his real name, but I always thought Bryan Danielson sounded a bit silly as a wrestling name. As a normal name, sure. But a wrestling name is was awkward to me. And this way there's no issues with any of the marketing of his real name or anything like that after the fact, so it's fine. The name isn't way out there or anything. It'll work fine. If I was Danielson, I'd be more worried about a WWE crowd finding him boring than what his name is. |
| TheImpalerTMX | Posted on 02/17/10 at 10:30:46 They were into him when he wrestled those initial dark matches so I don't think he'll have any problem. He can work the WWE-style just fine; it probably means going back to some stuff he relied on earlier in his career than his whole quasi-MMA style, but that's not a bad thing at all. There is plenty of unique stuff that he does and I think the WWE crowd is almost always receptive to someone who does stuff other guys in the company just don't do. |
| psz | Posted on 02/17/10 at 14:33:41 I saw the name, kinda chuckled, and moved on. They've done MUCH worse in the past with naming people (Right, Monty Brown?) |
| TheImpalerTMX | Posted on 02/17/10 at 17:07:45 Trust me, this isn't a case of smark outrage or anything. I just think if CM Punk was known by x% of the audience before he came in, Bryan Dani... Daniel Bryan would have been known by at least that many, if not more. I really wonder if they put him with The Miz to actually make Miz better (though I've really been digging him lately). I'm a little scared when they start refering to this as part reality show, but I'm not going to write it off before I see it. The idea of Carlito being one of the "Pros" (a company buzzword I now hate just as much as the "WWE universe") is hillarious, though. He can barely stay motivated enough to stay afloat, nevermind having to help get someone over. I think Chavo would have been a much better choice. |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 02/17/10 at 18:01:05 Oh, I'm sure he'll be fine too. I have no doubts Danielson can work the WWE style. I just think he has that same perceived lack of promo skills that someone like Benoit always had. The Miz is one of the best promo guys in the business right now, so it makes sense. And from what I gather, this is a worked reality show anyway. So if anything, Miz as the brash "veteran" and Danielson as the no-nonsense guy who gets sick of Miz's shit could be a built in storyline regardless. |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 02/17/10 at 18:02:44 They should've just made Florida Championship Wrestling NXT instead of trying to make this The Ultimate Fighter. Or, they could've made ECW seem different instead of being yet another WWE show with the stupid HD TitanTron and different color ropes. It seems like all of the visions that Vince has for things not WWE (XFL, The Invasion, the nWo, ECW relaunch) always fail. |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 02/17/10 at 20:26:34On 02/17/10 at 18:02:44, The TNM Members Champ wrote:They should've just made Florida Championship Wrestling NXT instead of trying to make this The Ultimate Fighter.The Invasion angle got some of the highest buyrates WWE ever received on PPV, so how was it a failure exactly? I'll give you XFL, nWo, and to an extent, the ECW relaunch (if you'll remember, the original ECW failed hard too). |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 02/17/10 at 20:33:57On 02/17/10 at 20:26:34, Snabbit888 wrote:Since when does ratings equate with a good product? The pay per view got a high buyrate out of curiousity. It was clear that the McMahons were lazy and ruined what should've been a can't miss angle. They shouldn't have done any invasion angle if they weren't going to do it right. |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 02/17/10 at 20:39:01On 02/17/10 at 20:33:57, The TNM Members Champ wrote:You didn't say it was a good product. You said it was a failure. It wasn't a failure by any stretch. Was it as good as it could have been? No, absolutely not. But wrestling is a business, not an appease the internet fanbase contest. |
| psz | Posted on 02/18/10 at 14:48:34 NBC (Co-owners of XFL) pulled out of the deal when the NFL came knocking and said "You can have the NFL back, but you can't carry a competing product (XFL)" With NBC pulling half the money and ALL of the TV broadcasts, XFL was doomed. Even if it had made a profit (which I THINK it did), and even if it had huge ratings (not so much), it couldn't possibly last. Can't really lay total blame on McMahon and co. for that. |
| TheImpalerTMX | Posted on 02/18/10 at 16:33:21 Can we at least recognize the WBF as a failure? :) |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 02/19/10 at 00:33:15 I that "Daniel Bryan" because its two first names. If they didn't like "Bryan Danielson" then just shorten it to "Bryan Daniels". As for the XFL: as I recall the ratings plummeted after the opening week. And the wrestling-esk freakshow attempts to draw interest were dumb, especially creating a "fued" between commentator Jesse Ventura and one of the coaches. "Here's a football league that plays when the NFL doesn't. It has less restrictive rules than the NFL and players can put whatever they want on the back of their jersey." If they had just gone that route instead of trying to create 'angles' and 'fueds' I think it would've been fine. But yes NBC pulling out was the nail in the coffin. But the XFL was really already dead anyway. |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 02/19/10 at 07:17:44 I'll clarify. The concept behind the XFL wasn't a failure. It was a ballsy move by Vince. The fact was that Vince kept tinkering with it and alienated all the people who didn't want wrestling aspects to it made it a failure. |
| psz | Posted on 02/19/10 at 14:38:01On 02/18/10 at 16:33:21, TheImpalerTMX wrote:Can we at least recognize the WBF as a failure? :)So much so that anyone who didn't watch WWF during the Primetime days (IE: Pre-Raw) probably has NO idea what the WBF was, or that Mark Martin was a guest ;-> |
| Drunken Fool | Posted on 03/09/10 at 16:49:55On 02/17/10 at 07:27:17, Snabbit888 wrote:I know it's his real name, but I always thought Bryan Danielson sounded a bit silly as a wrestling name. As a normal name, sure. But a wrestling name is was awkward to me.Yeah, but when said name is follows the nickname "American Dragon" then it's EPIC And really, it sounds a lot better than Daniel Bryan or even, gasp...Dolph Ziggler, which sounds like he should be goose stepping around the ring shouting "Heil Hitler". Not to mention the rediculous name they have on Ziggler's finisher...what kind of name for a wrestling move is the Zigjag, especially when the move does not zig or zag? Plus I think it would have been more fitting if they would have paired him with Regal, seeing as though they have a past (Regal helped train him) |
| TheImpalerTMX | Posted on 03/10/10 at 05:27:52On 03/09/10 at 16:49:55, Drunken Fool wrote:They'd be too similar that I don't think Daniel(son) would stand out nearly as much as he has. The pairing they made is pretty awesome. I'm actually pretty impressed with how they are managing the dynamics between the pros and the rookies (as much as I hate the buzzwords "pros" and "rookies). You have some guys who get along and some who are almost toal opposites; of those who are total opposites you have ones who are seemingly going to fall in line and those who are going to resist. Three weeks in and this has become my favorite hour of WWE programming - as well it should be since it replaced my old favorite hour. |
| psz | Posted on 03/10/10 at 14:40:27 I came in late to Episode 2, and totally forgot about Episode 3 (I keep forgetting to set my DVR, which is always a great reminder ;->) Sadly, for me, it looks like NXT will join TNA in my "I'll catch it when I catch it" vewing routine. |
| Zedja | Posted on 03/10/10 at 20:43:33 If you are in the US you can now watch the entire thing online on the WWE website. |
| Mamushi | Posted on 03/10/10 at 21:20:05 NXT is on Hulu too. |
| psz | Posted on 03/11/10 at 01:17:49 If I can't remember to set a DVR, you really think I'll remember to watch it on Hulu/WWE.com? ;-> (I just need to remember to set the DVR, really) |
| Drunken Fool | Posted on 05/13/10 at 04:50:56 eliminated from NXT... Probably more of a blessing in disguise, and apparently will wrestle under Bryan Danielson again... :D |
| JoshiQ | Posted on 05/13/10 at 16:23:54On 05/13/10 at 04:50:56, Drunken Fool wrote:eliminated from NXT...Yeah, I'm interested to see what they are going to do with him. I didn't think they'd do much with CM Punk in the beginning, but they surprised me with the push he has received. Hopefully Danielson can find his own niche. |
| Zedja | Posted on 05/16/10 at 21:27:58 I just had a thought.. The masqued Straight Edge member was rather short... So maybe, just maybe... :) |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 05/16/10 at 22:27:29On 05/16/10 at 21:27:58, Zedja wrote:I just had a thought.. The masqued Straight Edge member was rather short... So maybe, just maybe... :)I think that's pretty much a lock to be Joey Mercury at this point, but I guess stranger things have happened. |
| Drunken Fool | Posted on 05/17/10 at 18:06:59On 05/16/10 at 22:27:29, Snabbit888 wrote:and here I thought the whole time it was Pacman Jones... oh wait, that stuff only happens in TNA, my bad |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 06/12/10 at 07:16:46 http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/14734694 WWE has come to terms on the release of NXT first season rookie Daniel Bryan (Bryan Danielson) as of today June 11, 2010. We wish Daniel Bryan the best in all future endeavors. And the twists keep coming. |
| JustinPossible | Posted on 06/12/10 at 12:56:38 its because he choked justin roberts with his tie & it was concidered too violent... give him 90 days for this to blow over & he'll be back. |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 06/12/10 at 14:34:01On 06/12/10 at 12:56:38, JustinPossible wrote:its because he choked justin roberts with his tie & it was concidered too violent... give him 90 days for this to blow over & he'll be back.Really lame. Wrestling by its nature is violent. Danielson's actions against Roberts is one of the reason the angle came off as real. That's what the WWE wanted. |
| JustinPossible | Posted on 06/12/10 at 17:44:04 it gave the impression that he went over the edge of their pg limits... plus coupled with spitting on cena & yelling in his face, it came off as a scene stealer from barrett who will probably go into a program with the champ. but like i said give it time to blow over (90 days) & they will resign him much like matt hardy afew years back after enough buzz is generated |
| The TNM Members Champ | Posted on 06/12/10 at 19:14:13 If he was terminated, I don't think there's a 90 day restriction. I'd love it if he went to TNA on Sunday. |
| psz | Posted on 06/13/10 at 17:39:35 Or it's a work, and Cole will be "triumphant" on Monday about how he's fired... Only to have "Brian Danielson" hired by Bret Hart. |
| psz | Posted on 08/16/10 at 05:06:57On 06/13/10 at 17:39:35, psz wrote:Or it's a work, and Cole will be "triumphant" on Monday about how he's fired...Ok ok... So he wasn't hired by Bret Hart.... HE WAS ON THE SAME TEAM THOUGH! |
| rebelins | Posted on 05/04/11 at 11:18:11 Terrible name. :/ |