On 11/25/06 at 16:11:27, Rick Garrard wrote:Either way, give someone the book that hasn't had a chance to show their talent before (so that would mean no Nash, no Disco Gilberti, no Cornette, no Jarrett, and especially no Russo)

On 11/25/06 at 16:11:27, Rick Garrard wrote:Give more emphasis on the difference of styles between the X-Division and the NWA World Title stylings, with the X'ers being the spot monkeys and the World Title picture with guys that can tell a story in a match that can last a longer length than the usual TV main event does.

On 11/25/06 at 16:11:27, Rick Garrard wrote:Yes I'm talking about having a champ that can work a 30 minute match in TNA without getting blown up.

On 11/25/06 at 16:11:27, Rick Garrard wrote:And the other thing they should do is stabilize the face/heel rosters and only make turns occasionally as at this point,

What's wrong with Cornette? I would nominate Scott D'Amore, Jim Cornette, or maybe . . . me.

Um, if they did that, the X Division would have only two people in it, Chris Sabin and Sonjay Dutt. Mainstays like AJ Styles, Christopher Daniels, Alex Shelley, Austin Starr, and Jay Lethal (oh, and Kevin Nash, lol) would have to be moved over or ordered to only put on spotfests, and the latter option would be a terrible squandering of their natural talents.

Like Sting, and unlike Abyss? You gotta admit I gotcha there. Sure, it's been over a decade since Sting has worked a match that long, but at least he's proven capable of doing it. Abyss can't even go 10 without putting the crowd to sleep and having to take a gazillion thumbtacks to wake them up. If I wanted someone who needed weapons and crazy insane spots to entertain the crowd, I'd make New Jack the Champion.

We definitely agree on this point. I feel like they were lost in AMW's booking for a while. First they were gonna split them up, which would have been dumb, so I'm glad they didn't. Now they're faces. I just have a tough time buying a group called "America's Most Wanted" as faces.

If I were made head booker, the first thing I would do is solidify the current TNA structure in order to secure a two-hour slot.

On 11/26/06 at 05:50:45, HugeRockStar760 wrote:I remember when back in the 1980s, heel turns slowly evolved over months, not weeks. In fact, at times there would be surprise turns that you didn't expect (Tatanka when everyone thought Lex Luger was joining the Corporation).

Wrestling nowadays is just a joke, WWE and TNA. TNA unfortunately is nothing but a WWE wannabe.

On 11/26/06 at 04:25:26, Critic of the Dawn wrote:I really really really hate the idea of a Women's Division contending for the World Title, and regardless of your reasoning behind it, most people on the boards here seem to be of the same opinion - that it'd serve mainly to make a roster as a whole look weak. I respect your difference of opinion on this matter, but when you're looking at close to if not fully 100% of people surveyed not being behind an idea... Well, if you go with it anyway, you're not booking for success - you're booking either to make a point, or for yourself. And that's all well and good in a simulated promotion, but its downright irresponsible in a real one where real peoples livlihoods are on the line. If you actually did something like this as TNA booker, I predict people would be nostalgic for Russo's batshit insane booking style inside a month.

On 11/26/06 at 08:44:16, HugeRockStar760 wrote:Anubis, give it a break. Professional wrestling is already declining as it is. You're going to make it much quicker once you have women defeating men on a consistent basis. No one liked it when Chyna was doing that and no one will put up with it again with a World Title on the line.

I think women are definitely equals in many things. But wrestling they are not believable as anything more than wrestling each other in their division.

On 11/26/06 at 17:05:20, Critic of the Dawn wrote:Out of curiosity, Anubis, do you know of any women who have advanced far in traditionally male-dominated amateur combat/sports such as amateur wrestling, mixed martial arts, boxing, etc? And let me clarify that I'm not interested in all female leagues. Since you're so keen on pushing women as able to compete on even ground with the top men in the world, I want to know if there are any real world examples of the same.

You seem to be knowledgable and/or mildly obsessed with the topic, so I figure you'd probably know. ;)

On 11/26/06 at 23:34:24, Anubis wrote:I would push women like Mariko Yoshida and Mickie James, good in the ring, good entertainment.  

On 11/26/06 at 23:34:24, Anubis wrote:Exactly.  Until women are given more opportunities, things will never change.  Hence why it would be a good idea to give them said opportunities.

I would never ever push an undeserving woman.  Women like Chyna would go nowhere in my promotion.  I would push women like Mariko Yoshida and Mickie James, good in the ring, good entertainment.  I would never show women preferential treatment in reality, though I do in the games I play.  Showing women favortism would be the same problem, but in reverse.

I would just give women the opportunities to shine.  If they succeed, they succeed on their own abilities.  If not, then they get no push from me.

Basically, in booking, I would make myself blind with regards to gender and size.  I would look only at the final product.

On 11/27/06 at 10:20:49, Carlzilla wrote: Why do you think we have no womens promotion that's even on the radar, even though there's plenty of talented women wrestlers in the states?

On 11/27/06 at 22:18:22, TiLoBrown wrote:Women, for the most part, are inferior. Get used to it. And don't use yourself as an example as you are not a woman

On 11/27/06 at 12:59:12, rey619 wrote:

You forget about Shimmer, but that's just maybe on my radar? Being an indy-freak an all...

On 11/27/06 at 22:18:22, TiLoBrown wrote:Women, for the most part, are inferior. Get used to it. And don't use yourself as an example as you are not a woman

On 11/27/06 at 21:55:25, Anubis wrote:Hence why it would take time and effort and good booking to de-program this ridiculous "women are inferior to men" notion.  Like I said, it wouldn't happen overnight.  Still, someone's gotta do it.

Oh, and who says women can't be good in the ring and be eye candy at the same time?  I can think of at least a dozen good women who are also very attractive.

Still, someone's gotta de-program the sheep who buy this inferiority nonsense.  I would start the intergender thing as an angle with maybe one or two very highly skilled women, and eventually work it into the norm to where it was no longer an angle and definitely not a selling point.  After all, if you have to use that as a selling point, you're doing something wrong.  The whole idea is to get it to be "the norm", meaning you can't use it as a selling point in the long run.

It would definitely take at least five years to pull off in today's world, but I still say it's more than possible if you use the right women and you use them the right way.  Trish Stratus and Playboy Playmates just aren't credible when it comes to doing something like this; no, it would take women who are proven to have a natural talent in the ring, women who are on par with the Joshis.  I don't think there's anyone in WWE save for maybe maybe Mickie James who would qualify.  Same with TNA, who has no one who qualifies.  In America, you'd have to rely on Melissa and LuFisto most likely, and in Japan, you're looking at Mariko Yoshida and AKINO for your standard-bearers.  It's been tough to find stuff featuring these women online, but I have done so, and they are the most impressive women I've seen so far.  You can't use models for this idea, that's for damn sure!

On 11/27/06 at 21:55:25, Anubis wrote:Hence why it would take time and effort and good booking to de-program this ridiculous "women are inferior to men" notion. Like I said, it wouldn't happen overnight. Still, someone's gotta do it.

Oh, and who says women can't be good in the ring and be eye candy at the same time? I can think of at least a dozen good women who are also very attractive.

Still, someone's gotta de-program the sheep who buy this inferiority nonsense. I would start the intergender thing as an angle with maybe one or two very highly skilled women, and eventually work it into the norm to where it was no longer an angle and definitely not a selling point. After all, if you have to use that as a selling point, you're doing something wrong. The whole idea is to get it to be "the norm", meaning you can't use it as a selling point in the long run.

It would definitely take at least five years to pull off in today's world, but I still say it's more than possible if you use the right women and you use them the right way. Trish Stratus and Playboy Playmates just aren't credible when it comes to doing something like this; no, it would take women who are proven to have a natural talent in the ring, women who are on par with the Joshis. I don't think there's anyone in WWE save for maybe maybe Mickie James who would qualify. Same with TNA, who has no one who qualifies. In America, you'd have to rely on Melissa and LuFisto most likely, and in Japan, you're looking at Mariko Yoshida and AKINO for your standard-bearers. It's been tough to find stuff featuring these women online, but I have done so, and they are the most impressive women I've seen so far. You can't use models for this idea, that's for damn sure!

On 11/28/06 at 00:24:25, Carlzilla wrote:

That was kind of a low blow dude...

Everything that people like you think as far as women being inferior goes is a programming that dates back thousands of years, as women were basically seen as property throughout most history.  The facts, however, show all humans of both genders and all races as "basically equal" when given equal opportunity.  Men are generally bigger and stronger, women are generals tactically smarter and more agile.  In the end, skill is what matters most, and skill is unaffected by gender.

On 11/28/06 at 01:27:24, HugeRockStar760 wrote:

Definitely not inferior...but when they've pushed the issue of gender equality in sports, they've proven to be absolute failures when competiting against men.

On 11/28/06 at 02:36:30, TiLoBrown wrote:It wasn't a low blow. Anubis is a transsexual not a born woman. I've said the same to other transsexuals and none of them of been offended and she was then I'm sorry but I still stand by what I said.

On 11/28/06 at 03:53:17, Carlzilla wrote:Yes, Anubis "came out (sorry I couldn't think of a better term)". I don't remember which topic it was, but it's on the Flame Wars board.

I'm not going to get into it here as it's not really the place for it, but even if Anubis isn't naturally a woman, why make it anymore obvious or uncomfortable. I just think it was underhanded to bring that into the mix when it was absolutely unnessicary to make your point. That's all.

If you want to respond to this please do so on the Flame Wars board so we don't clog up this one...

EDIT: It's actually in the HugeRockStar is a bigot thread...talk about ironic...

On 11/28/06 at 05:42:11, Rick Garrard wrote:Cryme Tyme are bigots and racists.  And highly topical with the Michael Richards parody.

On 11/28/06 at 01:27:24, HugeRockStar760 wrote:I look forward to seeing how good Mickie James would be going up against Batista or The Big Show, if you stand by that statement.

On 11/28/06 at 04:50:16, Carlzilla wrote:I'm not uncomfortable with it...I'm saying it's got to be uncomfortable to a person who was born being a gender that they can't relate to. I'm sorry about responding here even after I said not to...I just didn't want there to be any misunderstanding...and there obviously was.

On 11/28/06 at 05:11:03, HugeRockStar760 wrote:This website really wasn't the place for him to make that announcement either. I miss when this was strictly a wrestling and TNM discussion forum.

On 11/28/06 at 02:08:49, psz wrote:Batista/Big Show is a BIT of an over-needed example. Considering their size, strength, and builds, they'd give most guys a problem, even in a legit fight.

Benoit or Angle would have very little problem with most women atheletes (There are, of course, always exceptions), and aren't nearly as big. Then again, they'd probably have little problem with most male atheletes (in their primes, anyway)

On 11/28/06 at 07:54:13, Carlzilla wrote:By pseudo shoot you mean you'd run worked shoots?

If you where running shoot style a lot of moves that are commonplace would not be able to happen...as it just doesn't work that they'd be able to be performed in a real fight. I don't think this style would get over as there are plenty of legit shoot organizations to be found now a days.

If you didn't mean that, then what exactly did you mean?

On 11/28/06 at 08:16:55, rey619 wrote:I think this must be the most liberal messageboard ever. Wasn't this thread about TNA? I think we lost TNA 3 pages ago talking about gender equality.

One serious (again, off-topic question) to Anubis. Where have you seen Sarah Stock? She hasn't appeared for any indy companies I'm acquainted with, and would like to have a look.

On 11/28/06 at 08:16:55, rey619 wrote:Wasn't this thread about TNA?