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AnubisPosted on 11/12/04 at 08:36:55

Okay, for those of you who missed it, they went over the top five finishers in NWA-TNA:

5. The Canadian Destroyer (Petey Williams)
4. The Clash (A.J. Styles)
3. The Pounce (Monty Brown)
2. The Swanton (Jeff Hardy)
1. The Stroke (Jeff Jarrett)

I don't like this part of the new era of NWA-TNA.  This list was absolutely ridiculous.  They simply went in reverse order of the top five names on the card is all, and it was stupid.  First off, the Pounce isn't a good finisher at all, it's ridiculous.  A preteen girl could get up from that.  Okay, maybe that was exaggerating, but nonetheless, I doubt it would hurt.  The Swanton is another boring move, as well as the Stroke.  What were they thinking?

The top finishers should be the most impressive finishers.  As such, I hereby submit this list of how I would rank them:

5. The Shooting Star Press (Chase Stevens)
4. The Play of the Day (Primetime)
3. The 630 (Jerrelle Clark)
2. The Clash (A.J. Styles)
1. The Canadian Destroyer (Petey Williams)
AllPowerfulGARTHPosted on 11/12/04 at 09:51:45

Oh, come on.  Everyone knows that Jeff Jarrett's "stroke" is, without a doubt, the most powerful force in TNA.

(Zing!)
Critic of the DawnPosted on 11/12/04 at 18:05:02

I thought Jarrett's finisher was the Guitar Shot Followed By Overbooked Outside Interference...

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
AnubisPosted on 11/12/04 at 22:54:14

Maybe, but at least Jarrett puts his opponents over.  I mean, good grief, he sold like a madman to Hardy on the PPV.  He only won after THREE guitar shots and interference from the Outsiders.  Let's face it, that's far more than Jeff Hardy deserves, the guy is NOT that great.  Certainly not more deserving than Ron Killings, A.J. Styles, or Monty Brown (ridiculous finisher or not he's talented).  Hardy belongs in the X-Division.  I'd rather see Trinity feud with Jarrett than Hardy, but then again, she doesn't paint herself green before matches and blow a half dozen spots.  Hardy may be a bit better than Trinity, but not by a whole lot, that woman is talented!  Anyway, no, let's see A.J. and Jarrett feud some more, that would be great.

That's how Jarrett is different than Triple H.  He puts his opponents over, even in a win.  That's probably becayse Ric Flair was such an influence on his style in the late 90s (let's face it, Jarrett is practically a ripoff of Flair nowadays, with a little "country" twist.  Jarrett puts his opponents over, Triple H doesn't.  

I have no problem with a guy holding the belt for long periods.  That makes it worth more, after all.  The top belt shouldn't change hands every three months.  At least Jarrett puts his opponents over in the process.  The only people I've seen Triple H put over is Shawn Michaels (his best friend, and the reason why I love their matches with each other) and Goldberg (Goldberg will MAKE him sell if necessary) and Randy Orton (his little pet project).
91Posted on 11/12/04 at 23:20:21

To be fair to H, he also always to put over Rock and Austin whenever they're around. Plus I assume you mean the guys listed are the only guys you've seen him put over recently, as opposed to ever (I would suggest breaking out some old tapes otherwise)... chuck Benoit on there too, a clean submission at Wrestlemania counts as something to me.

That said, to go against Trips, he has a habit of facing some non contender every now and again (Jeff Hardy in 2001 for example) and making it look like he's putting them over big by giving them a big chunk of offence, then either killing them with a nice clean finish or in Hardys case, completely burying them in a rematch (that was the ONE shot at making Jeff Hardy a star that's ever come up, and they blew it). Plus I have a helluva lot of bias towards Jarrett, always have.
Snabbit888Posted on 11/13/04 at 01:12:25

Goldberg will MAKE him sell in the sense that he's so poorly trained that he can't execute simple moves properly.
americamamushiPosted on 11/13/04 at 04:57:11

On 11/13/04 at 01:12:25, Snabbit888 wrote:Goldberg will MAKE him sell in the sense that he's so poorly trained that he can't execute simple moves properly.
Goldberg was... trained?!/!?1?!

*goes insane at the thought that Goldberg could be that crappy after being trained, starts stripping off his clothes and dropping elbows on nothing*

(please tell me someone got that)
rey619Posted on 11/15/04 at 12:30:40

If someone like MOnty Brown pounced me, I would definetely get hurt. But I do agree with you that as a spot, the finisher is not that great. My list would be something like this:

5. Black Hole Slam (Abyss) - fast move for such a big guy
4. Styles Clash (AJ) - good move, but not his most   spectacular
3. Twisting Moonsault (Garza)
2. 630 (Jerelle)
1. Canadian Destroyer (Petey).. I almost fell over when I first saw this..

as for BDSSE list.. or whatever it is called.. that was purely to put the main eventers' finishers over.. nobody can seriously consider the Stroke the best finisher in TNA..
91Posted on 11/15/04 at 19:34:56

Thinking about it, it's probably in TNA terms of how successful the move is. In the WWE, The Pedigree is hardly the best finisher (though I'd genuinely say it's a very good one, possible top five) but in terms of getting wins, the WWE would put it top of their kayfabe list every time.
AnubisPosted on 11/17/04 at 02:17:44

Okay, no more anti-Goldberg remarks in threads that I start!

I've watched his career from the beginning.  He executes plenty of moves properly.  He made only ONE serious error to hurt another wrestler, and just about every single wrestler botches a move at SOME point.  Look at everyone's hero, Owen Hart.  Everyone loves him, but only because he died so tragically.  His botched piledriver on Austin was FAR worse than Goldberg's botched savate kick on Hart.  Austin was damn near paralyzed and killed from it, whereas Hart just got post-concussion syndrome.  You can't blame Hart's current problems on Goldberg, not for a fact.

Goldberg, when allowed to do his thing, is very entertaining.  He's no RVD for sure, but he's up there with Austin and is better than JBL or Undertaker any day of the week.  WWE just made him look bad because Goldberg was WCW's second Franchise.  That's why Sting really hasn't gone to WWE yet; he's afraid they'll do the same to him.  He may do the stupid thing and try it, and if he does, he'll regret it, WWE will make him pay for never working for them before in all of history.  Sting's best bet is to sign a contract with NWA-TNA and stay there.  I hope Sting doesn't let WWE do unto him as they did unto Goldberg.

Only the WWE purist robots think Goldberg is THAT bad.
americamamushiPosted on 11/17/04 at 02:25:20

On 11/17/04 at 02:17:44, Anubis wrote:Only the WWE purist robots think Goldberg is THAT bad.
I'm no WWE purist robot and I still think that Goldberg is that bad.
Snabbit888Posted on 11/17/04 at 02:58:52

#1, generalizing people who like WWE as being "robots" is narrow minded and stupid, Anubis. That's not a valid argument in any sense.

#2, Goldberg can't sell, and he can't work an interesting match over 5 minutes unless he is going with a far superior worker.

#3, your comments about Owen Hart are once again generalized and stupid. Sure, sadly, a lot of people jumped on the "We love Owen!" bandwagon when he died, but to say EVERYONE loves him because he died is narrow sighted.

#4, You're merely taking the pro-Goldberg side this strongly because everyone is against it. Your delusionals of being a heel on the TNM forums is a little odd sometimes. Yes, Goldberg can be entertaining, but he will NEVER carry anyone to a good match. Ever. He's sloppy, you have to admit that.

In summation, say what you mean, and mean what you say. Generalizations = bad debate

Oh, and Goldberg has stated in interviews that he thinks WWE should have let him destroy EVERYBODY.  He has no respect for the business whatsoever, and if he does, his public comments veil it quite well.

And JBL and Undertaker are far better than Goldberg.  They're not in-ring generals by any means, but they're definitely not WORSE than Goldberg.  Plus, they can give an interview.  Goldberg just snorts like a retarded bull and yells, "WHO'S NEXT?!"  Not very compelling, IMO.
meetzorakPosted on 11/17/04 at 18:13:58

The Undertaker is better than Goldberg but not JBL or let's say.... The Brooklyn Brawler. Now that i think about it the Brawler did have much more Chrisma than Goldberg and he could sell a match better but Goldberg IS better than The Repo Man wait no he's not.... Well i guess now that i think about it Goldberg does really, really suck.
91Posted on 11/17/04 at 19:35:17

Goldberg is GREAT in matches under five minutes. There's only just enough time for him there to hit his three or four big moves, which look really good, and get the win. Fantastic. But how many particularly good matches has he had that have gone longer than that? The DDP one was really good, but that's about it. His best fight would be the one where he got beat in a clean fight backstage by a guy who was a "midget" and "not worthy of facing me".

And "no RVD, but up there with Austin"? Get real, Austin in his prime had some of the greatest matches in history, and not because he was carried. Van Dam isn't in his league.
AllPowerfulGARTHPosted on 11/17/04 at 22:37:34

People hate Goldberg for a lot of reasons that are not necessarily related to his ending Bret Hart's career.  He is known to work WAY too stiff in order to make himself look unstoppable, and he has hurt other people in the ring, just none as bad as the Hitman.  He also has an ENORMOUS ego and objects to anyone getting any offense in on him in matches -- even Walker: Texas Undertaker isn't that bad.  He also seems to carry himself backstage as being above everyone else, kind of like the Ultimate Second Amendment Activist did back in his heyday.  Saying the five-move wonder Goldberg is better than the veteran Undertaker is absolutely ludicrous, and though Goldberg's about on par with JBL in terms of ring work, JBL can talk circles around him on the mic -- apparently Goldberg doesn't think he NEEDS mic skills in order to be pushed as the best thing since sliced bread.

Owen Hart, on the other hand, could have a great match with a broomstick, was fairly entertaining on the mic when given a chance to be, never bitched and moaned about how he was being used, and was beloved by everyone backstage.  His PILEDRIVER-O-DOOM~ on Steve Austin was unfortunate, but the thing is, it was by no means what ANYONE would expect out of Owen, and most importantly, it didn't end Austin's career -- Stone Cold wrestled for a good five years or so after the injury, whereas Bret Hart was DONE after Goldberg left that boot print in his skull.  And as I've said before, Owen's tragic death is NOT necessarily associated with his postmortem popularity; Owen was my favorite wrestler before he died, and it's not inconceivable that others could feel that way, eh?

But maybe I'm just one 'a them thar WWE purist robots...
cerberosPosted on 11/18/04 at 01:25:49

I agree on everything said above (last two posts).  I want to say however that I was extremely offended that you brought up Owen's death as a reason people like him.  Owen was a bright point in wrestling and anyone could tell that.  Owen and Mick Foley give wrestlers good names.  There is a reason that you rarely hear a bad name about those two.  Owen was one of my favorites since he debuted as Owen Hart as part of the New Foundation.  For you to imply that he is only liked because of his death is the biggest load of fucking horseshit I have ever heard.  You should be ashamed to even imply that you self rigious son of a bitch.

Ok, sorry to go off like that, but it is just wrong.
pszPosted on 11/23/04 at 14:57:18

I thought Owen was over pretty damned well as the Blue Blazer (Original, not "Nugget" era), and you're gonna say it's because he DIED that people like him?!?

Watch any match between him and Bret, or Jarret, or HHH, or Mr. Hickenbottem.  Or damn near anyone, for that matter.

Owen was a HELL of a performer. Not bad on a mic, either.
Rick GarrardPosted on 11/24/04 at 01:55:37

Me and my friends in high school would go to the twice a year shows when Owen was the Blazer the first go-round and and take signs that read "Blazer = Lance Von Erich" and chant "Go, Lance, Go" at him.  

He seemed to enjoy us trying to mess with him that way.
pszPosted on 12/01/04 at 02:43:19

He was a fun wrestler, in and out the ring (and character).

I saw a photo once from when he tied Dave Hebner's laces together during a match. That's just hilarious.
AnubisPosted on 12/05/04 at 21:24:49

Hey I understand Owen was pretty good, but there is NOT DOUBT that he's more popular AFTER his death than before.  In addition my main point is that his botched move was far worse than Goldberg's stiffness on Bret, especially since those stiff moves have been hit before by other people and on other people.  Post-concussion syndrome is unpredictable and to blame Goldberg outright is just plain stupid.

Cerberos, you're the self-righteous son-of-a-bitch you piece of shit.  Go to Hell.  You all come in here and insult one of my favorites and then start calling me names when I give the same in return?  You're all a bgunch of goddamn hypocrites.  Guess I'm not the heel, I'm the voice of reason it seems.  Hypocratic assholes.  Just like this douchebag Bush.  You disgust me.

I warned you not to fuck with me.  You wanna throw insults, you have a flame war on your hands, assholes.  You insult my favorites over and over and don't expect me to do that same?  Unlike you geniuses I don't give a person more respect just because they died.  I hold a person the same in death as I do in life.  Owen Hart wasn't bad at all, he was damn good, but what I'm saying is that most people didn't hype him near as much when he was alive as they do now, and THAT'S A FACT.  So, um, kiss my ass.  Don't fire at me unless you're ready to be fired back upon.
91Posted on 12/05/04 at 22:14:19

On 12/05/04 at 21:24:49, Anubis wrote:Unlike you geniuses I don't give a person more respect just because they died. I hold a person the same in death as I do in life.
::) Still trying to be a heel Anubis?
americamamushiPosted on 12/05/04 at 22:20:34

Still trying to be a heel Anubis?
If he was really trying to be a heel then he'd want us to 'love to hate' him, not just plain dislike him. ;)
Rick GarrardPosted on 12/05/04 at 22:26:26

Cerberos, you're the self-righteous son-of-a-bitch you piece of shit.  Go to Hell.  You all come in here and insult one of my favorites and then start calling me names when I give the same in return?  You're all a bgunch of goddamn hypocrites.  Guess I'm not the heel, I'm the voice of reason it seems.  Hypocratic assholes.  Just like this douchebag Bush.  You disgust me.
#1 sign you have run out of argumentative points for your side of a discussion:

The resort to personal attacks (see also politicians, aka grown men running in popularity contests with limited knowledge on anything on which they speak).
91Posted on 12/05/04 at 22:29:09

Well, any attention is good attention.
Snabbit888Posted on 12/05/04 at 22:33:12

*yawn* I wanna get upset with Anubis, but it's just sad at this point. Have fun with your little flame war, Anubis. You can dominate the internet scene with your forceful attacks and your superior intellect. And you'll be quickly banned from the boards, and all will be well. Have fun!
Critic of the DawnPosted on 12/05/04 at 23:24:05

Funny story.  Before I adopted the pen name Critic of the Dawn, I used The Superior Intellect (abbreviated as TSI) as my online handle.  So... um... yeah.  It's funny that you mentioned that.

...

YES, I AM that much of a GEEK, and I did reference THAT in my initial online name.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
AnubisPosted on 12/08/04 at 18:14:15

On 12/05/04 at 22:26:26, Rick Garrard wrote:
#1 sign you have run out of argumentative points for your side of a discussion:

The resort to personal attacks (see also politicians, aka grown men running in popularity contests with limited knowledge on anything on which they speak).
Are you mental?  How dare you.  You think you know how the real world works?  You've got a lot to learn.  I'm sick of you assholes pestering me and putting me down for the fun of it, and I'm most certainly sick and tired of you jerks making fun of me.

Oh, and banning someone for defending himself is immature and childish to the extreme.  If you wanna stop me from flaming people, stop them from flaming me.  I will go all-out on anyone who makes fun of me or attacks me in any way.  I don't tolerate insults, PERIOD.  No normal person does.  I didn't start it, so punishing me would just make you more wrong than you already are.

How is it not hypocritical to flame me for saying something bad about Owen Hart when you guys rant and rave against my favorite two wrestlers (RVD and Goldberg) CONSTANTLY?  If you don't want me dissing Owen, stop dissing RVD and Goldberg.
PulsarPosted on 12/08/04 at 20:08:22

Hey Nubis.

Goldberg's a jew.
91Posted on 12/08/04 at 20:21:10

Can you repeat that, the tear stains made the pixels on my screen run.
Snabbit888Posted on 12/08/04 at 22:31:37

No, Anubis, what you made was a blanket statement originally saying that EVERYONE liked Owen Hart because he died.  You attack people just as much as they attack you, so grow up and shut the fuck up, for Christ's sake.  Instead of working so hard to be a heel, why don't you work at being a real person?  If you get off by having some internet character, so be it, but have you wondered why you're the ONLY person to have problems with ANYONE?  For instance, Rick and I disagree all the time, but when we disagree, we're not assholes to each other.  However, anyone disagrees with you, and you make it out like we're attacking you.  Grow the fuck up.
TerryFunkaPosted on 12/08/04 at 23:26:03

To bring civilization back to the matter.Owen Hart is dead, he died because he wanted to make us, the fans happy by doing something he didn't have to do.So, unless you know him better then every single fan and every single wrestler and his own family who have never, outside of their wrestling character said or heard a bad thing about the man.
PulsarPosted on 12/09/04 at 04:20:12

I hate Carlzilla all the time, but at least I argue with him all the time.

(I heart you carl)
zackarcherPosted on 12/09/04 at 06:43:25

But this is different.  You insulted Goldberg.
DarkAndEvilBastardPosted on 12/09/04 at 18:01:26

That TNA list sure was messed up, huh?  I mean, where was the Black Hole Slam?!?!?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 12/09/04 at 18:51:08

On 12/09/04 at 18:01:26, DarkAndEvilBastard wrote:That TNA list sure was messed up, huh? I mean, where was the Black Hole Slam?!?!?
Perhaps the hosts of the show were unable to see it because its gravitational force was so great that not even light could escape?

...

Sorry.  I'm a geek.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
PulsarPosted on 12/09/04 at 20:24:21

Oh sorry, the rest of this board is just swimming in it's own coolness.
Captain TagonPosted on 12/10/04 at 02:57:35

On 12/09/04 at 04:20:12, Pulsar wrote:I hate Carlzilla all the time, but at least I argue with him all the time.

(I heart you carl)
I second that.
AnubisPosted on 12/20/04 at 21:51:53

On 12/08/04 at 22:31:37, Snabbit888 wrote:No, Anubis, what you made was a blanket statement originally saying that EVERYONE liked Owen Hart because he died.
It is the reason everyone seems to think he was the greatest wrestler that ever lived.  He wasn't.  Most Japanese wrestlers could wrestle him right under the table, no competition.  At least I don't blindly think my favorite wrestlers are THE best.  (RVD is close to the top in America, but Goldberg is just cool, not the best wrestler, albeit certain better than Triple H and the Undertaker.)

Oh, and how does it diss Goldberg to call him a Jew?  Are you anti-Semetic?  Do you think I am?  I could care less about religion.  I KNOW GOLDBERG'S A JEW.  You know what?  That doesn't bother me.

On 12/08/04 at 22:31:37, Snabbit888 wrote:You attack people just as much as they attack you, so grow up and shut the fuck up, for Christ's sake.
I never start it, though.  I've just had enough of the Goldberg-bashing and RVD-bashing.  You bash my faves I'll bash yours, it's that simple.

On 12/08/04 at 22:31:37, Snabbit888 wrote:Instead of working so hard to be a heel, why don't you work at being a real person? If you get off by having some internet character, so be it, but have you wondered why you're the ONLY person to have problems with ANYONE?
Would you PLEASE shut the fuck up you goddamn douchebag.  You take everything I say and try to twist it around to make yourself look good.  You must be a Bush fan, eh?  That's their MO.  When I made the statement about me being the heel, I was just explaining my abrasive personality.  Well, guess what, no two people are alike.  If you expect me to confirm to some robot mentality you can kiss my ass.  That ain't gonna happen, period.

This isn't some character, this is me.  I'm vengeful, I'm brash to an extent, and I don't put up with crap from ANYONE.

So you can cut the bullshit about the heel thing now.

On 12/08/04 at 22:31:37, Snabbit888 wrote:For instance, Rick and I disagree all the time, but when we disagree, we're not assholes to each other. However, anyone disagrees with you, and you make it out like we're attacking you. Grow the fuck up.
No I don't, I only take attacks as attacks.  If you don't get it and you don't understand how I react to things, then you're the one who needs to grow up and realize that ALL PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT.  I'm not gonna act like you.  I'm not gonna think like you.  When I debate/argue, I debate/argue.  When people piss me off, that's when I go on the attack.

Or are you too dense to notice the difference between how I'm talking to YOU and how I responded in that other thread about the circuit-specific databases.  You're the one that's really pissed me off more than anyone here.
zackarcherPosted on 12/20/04 at 22:07:06

Where'd you go for so long?  Why bring this up again two weeks later?
AllPowerfulGARTHPosted on 12/20/04 at 22:23:54

Eesh.  SOMEbody needs to know how to let it go.
Critic of the DawnPosted on 12/20/04 at 22:26:35

What the...  I thought we were making lame astronomy jokes, not trying to verbally stab each other's eyes out.  I must have missed something.

For what it's worth, in my eyes the tragic death of Owen Hart did indeed add to his legacy.  Like someone said, he died in the middle of the ring doing what he loved to please the crowds.  That said, he was also an excellent worker.  Not the world's greatest, but still pretty damn good.  Dwelling too heavily on that comes across as disrespectful, however.  I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with TNA's amusingly odd list of top finishing moves, however.

You have to understand though, Anubis, the majority of people who post here are hardcore fans who are passionate about wrestling.  Goldberg gets a bad rap because he has a reputation for just being in the business for the money, and for just generally being not a very nice person.  Since he also isn't especially versatile (He's very entertaining in 5 minute squashes, but he has difficulty in long matches where he isn't in control) he's a popular target for stupid jokes.

Oh, and I think Snabbit doesn't like you.  Maybe both of you would be better off if you just ignored each other or something.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
91Posted on 12/20/04 at 22:36:20

On 12/20/04 at 21:51:53, Anubis wrote:
I never start it, though. I've just had enough of the Goldberg-bashing and RVD-bashing. You bash my faves I'll bash yours, it's that simple. *sob*
And yet we're supposed to think that you actually believe what you say, instead of just criticising for the sake of criticising. Oh well, let's hope your "wife" lets you back on son for your once fortnightly cry.
Snabbit888Posted on 12/21/04 at 03:04:09

Don't worry, Eric.  I'm done.  I'm content with him hating me.  He's impossible to reason with and contradicts himself a lot, so it's not worth it.  All is well.
AnubisPosted on 02/07/05 at 02:35:50

On 12/20/04 at 22:36:20, 91 wrote:

And yet we're supposed to think that you actually believe what you say, instead of just criticising for the sake of criticising. Oh well, let's hope your "wife" lets you back on son for your once fortnightly cry.
Wow, it may have been a while, but I'm just now getting back to checking this particular thread.  91, you've crossed a line I think you'll regret crossing.  You want a flame war you little punk?  That you shall have.  I'm sick of you bashing me and implying that I'm a hypocrite and liar.  Well, bitch, it's on, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

So you best listen up bitch.  Whenever I'm feeling the need, I'll be outright flaming you every chance I get you motherfucking piece of shit.  Yeah, I'm profane, hope you're man enough to deal with that, although I somehow doubt it.  If what you wanted was a flame war, you got it.

I guess you better just hope I don't get bored, huh, punk?
americamamushiPosted on 02/07/05 at 02:49:46

First off, I'm gonna say I'm on 91's side.  Maybe just because I've known him on these boards longer, I dunno.

Secondly I'm gonna say, plain and simple: I don't think a lot of people on these boards like you.  You've made far more enemies than friends.  In fact, I'm not sure if you've really made any good relations since coming to the boards.

Thirdly, keeping all that in mind.  I wouldn't care if you got banned from the boards.  I am, however going to remind you that if you start flaming you're going to quickly get banned from the boards.  I think a lot of people will agree that there is no place for flaming on the boards.  I mean seriously, do you really want to get banned?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 02/07/05 at 16:07:47

On 02/07/05 at 02:35:50, Anubis wrote:

Wow, it may have been a while, but I'm just now getting back to checking this particular thread. 91, you've crossed a line I think you'll regret crossing. You want a flame war you little punk? That you shall have. I'm sick of you bashing me and implying that I'm a hypocrite and liar. Well, bitch, it's on, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

So you best listen up bitch. Whenever I'm feeling the need, I'll be outright flaming you every chance I get you motherfucking piece of shit. Yeah, I'm profane, hope you're man enough to deal with that, although I somehow doubt it. If what you wanted was a flame war, you got it.

I guess you better just hope I don't get bored, huh, punk?
I haven't seen 91 around for a few weeks, actually.  And while I think he WAS a little out of line there, I will second the point that you don't exactly go out of your way to discuss things in many cases so much as decide you're correct and try to shout down anyone (usually everyone) that disagrees.  Since it amuses me, I kinda like you (you do obviously have a brain), but you DO come across as being nuttier than a fruitcake from time to time.  

I'd advise you to just let it go, especially in light of the fact that 91 hasn't been around for a while and consequently won't pose much opposition in a flame war.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
AnubisPosted on 02/09/05 at 15:36:26

Oh, I know I'm kinda self-righteous and cooky from time to time.  My actual anger came at his implying that I was lying about being married.  Just made it personal.

Yeah, if he hasn't been around, though, I guess I win cuz he no-shows lol.
PulsarPosted on 02/09/05 at 16:32:46

91 was double-booked, it's not his fault. I demand a rematch
americamamushiPosted on 02/09/05 at 18:01:01

and this time... it'll be in a STEEL CAGE

*pop*
91Posted on 02/09/05 at 21:39:25

On 02/07/05 at 02:35:50, Anubis wrote:

Wow, it may have been a while, but I'm just now getting back to checking this particular thread. 91, you've crossed a line I think you'll regret crossing. You want a flame war you little punk? That you shall have. I'm sick of you bashing me and implying that I'm a hypocrite and liar. Well, bitch, it's on, and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

So you best listen up bitch. Whenever I'm feeling the need, I'll be outright flaming you every chance I get you motherfucking piece of shit. Yeah, I'm profane, hope you're man enough to deal with that, although I somehow doubt it. If what you wanted was a flame war, you got it.

I guess you better just hope I don't get bored, huh, punk?
Wait, you're challenging me to an internet flame war and you're "going to flame me every chance you get" that, according to you, I wanted? The fact that my implying that you're not married worked you up into such a profanity-ridden frenzied anger suggests I was probably right (speaking of profanity, I apologise for not being man enough to handle the non-stop swearing of some kid on his computer several thousand miles away, it's a failing of mine). If it makes you feel any better, I'm bored already since I'm not just going to go out of my way to set aside some of my spare time to go online and flame people at random intervals whereas you, apparently, are far more willing.

Otherwise grow up.
SuperstarJimiCPosted on 02/10/05 at 00:38:56

Here are my top 5 finishers in TNA.

5. Truth or Consequences (Ron "The Truth" Killings).
4. The Pounce ("The Alpha Male" Monty Brown).
3. The Swanton ("The Charismatic Enigma" Jeff Hardy).
2. The Styles Clash ("The Phenomenal" AJ Styles).
AND THE NUMBER ONE FINISHER in TNA is:
1. The Canadian Destroyer (Petey Williams).

I could safe to say by next year if TNA signs BILLY GUNN,
Then his finisher "THE FAMOUSER" will be in the Top 5.

What do you think of that?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 02/10/05 at 01:45:55

On 02/09/05 at 21:39:25, 91 wrote:

Wait, you're challenging me to an internet flame war and you're "going to flame me every chance you get" that, according to you, I wanted? The fact that my implying that you're not married worked you up into such a profanity-ridden frenzied anger suggests I was probably right (speaking of profanity, I apologise for not being man enough to handle the non-stop swearing of some kid on his computer several thousand miles away, it's a failing of mine). If it makes you feel any better, I'm bored already since I'm not just going to go out of my way to set aside some of my spare time to go online and flame people at random intervals whereas you, apparently, are far more willing.

Otherwise grow up.
"BAH GAWD!  IT'S 91 KEEENG!  91 IS HERE!  AND HE'S GOT A CHAIR!  BAH GAWD, BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP!  HE MIGHT EVEN UPDATE THE ROLL CALL OF CHAMPIONS... GOVERNMENT MULE!"

"Puppies!"

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
91Posted on 02/10/05 at 19:32:09

;D I've not been online for a while. Besides, I thought Oliver was TNMs resident announcer - now what wacky catchphrases does he have?
Critic of the DawnPosted on 02/10/05 at 20:33:03

Oh.  Oliver.  Right.  Um... <Clears throat>

"The crowd is vociferously booing 91."

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
AnubisPosted on 02/12/05 at 05:28:02

On 02/09/05 at 21:39:25, 91 wrote:

Wait, you're challenging me to an internet flame war and you're "going to flame me every chance you get" that, according to you, I wanted? The fact that my implying that you're not married worked you up into such a profanity-ridden frenzied anger suggests I was probably right (speaking of profanity, I apologise for not being man enough to handle the non-stop swearing of some kid on his computer several thousand miles away, it's a failing of mine). If it makes you feel any better, I'm bored already since I'm not just going to go out of my way to set aside some of my spare time to go online and flame people at random intervals whereas you, apparently, are far more willing.

Otherwise grow up.
Grow up?  How about you grow up?  I'm so sick and fucking tired of soapbox pieces of shit like you always fighting against profanity by saying it's childish.  Who the fuck do you think you are, bitch?  Now, I think all people have a right to cuss, but I could have sworn that in this country it was loked down upon for children to do it while it was normal for adults to do it.  Are you a fucking moron or do you just say shit to piss me off on purpose?  Ever hear the saying "cuss like a sailor"?  Well, learn it, jackass.

You think that me getting upset because of what you said proves you right?  What the fuck planet are you from you dumb motherfucker?  People get upset when people attack them, lie about them, and/or do something else similar.  That is what you did.  Sure, some people handle being upset in different ways, but my personal method of handling is to fight back unlike other pussies that just take it like a bitch.  I'm sure you know all too well what it's like to take it like a bitch, huh?

I will do exactly as I said whenever I feel the need to, and guess what motherfucker?  No one can fucking stop me you insolent fucking punk.  As far as I'm concerned, you could say the sky was blue and I'd debate you on it and flame you now.  Why?  Just because I can and I just feel the desire to.

Now if you wanna keep the peace around here (I can assure you there will be none sustained while I'm on the warpath), I'd suggest you apologize for being a bitch and making up shit about me.  You're a nobody and that's just the bottom fucking line.  Me, I may not be famous, but at least I got a life and am above making up blatant lies about people.  If I don't like you, I'll call you a motherfucker to your proverbial face, bitch.  I won't go around making up shit about you, because I'm not a little bitch.  No, I only fight with the truth, and the truth is you crossed the motherfucking line, asshole.

I fight for myself, period.  I odn't take shit from no one and I flame the shit out of people who make up lies about me.  So how about you grow up, stop lying your fucking ass off, and get a goddamn motherfucking life you prick.
Snabbit888Posted on 02/12/05 at 05:37:34

On 02/12/05 at 05:28:02, Anubis wrote:

...but I could have sworn that in this country it was...
In fairness to 91, he's not from this country. :)
americamamushiPosted on 02/12/05 at 05:41:19

No one can fucking stop me
You can be stopped.  All one needs to do it ban you, and at the rate you're going, I think many will agree that it won't be long before that happens.
AnubisPosted on 02/12/05 at 06:10:18

No moderator that looked at ALL the facts involved would ban me becasue they would know I'm right. A fair moderator, if there is one here, would say that 91 needs to give me an apology and then I need to accept it and let it be over with.

That's real justice.

Now if you're saying that's not what these forums are about, well, then maybe just maybe these forums aren't worth my time.

Ya' know, maybe I wasn't the type to go to the people in charge about my problems before, maybe it's time I start seeing as so many people seem intent on railroading me. After all, even I have limits as to what I can accomplish, and fighting of a gang-beating is definitely beyond my ability.  Time to take a page out of Bush's playbook methinks . . .

At least I know whose opinions deserve respect and whose opinion do not now.
americamamushiPosted on 02/12/05 at 06:22:52

no, real justice would be watchin' Goldberg job to someone green and get injured ;D
AnubisPosted on 02/12/05 at 06:32:59

Ya' know, I usually respect others' thoughts on wrestling, but man, you are way too much.  Your constant bashing of Goldberg is tiresome.  Say you don't like him or that you don't think he's very good, but saying that shit is over the line.  I'm sure Goldberg would agree with me in saying "you're a little bitch".

On that note, what would really be funny is Goldberg punking you out in real life.

I respect thoughts and all but wishing injury upon someone just because you are one of a minority that doesn't like someone is wrong.
americamamushiPosted on 02/12/05 at 06:50:52

Anubis, you gotta learn when people are joking around :P
AllPowerfulGARTHPosted on 02/12/05 at 09:30:17

Insulting Goldberg = Tiresome

Using the word "fuck" 13 times and the word "bitch" 6 times = Sound argument
91Posted on 02/12/05 at 12:26:14

On 02/12/05 at 05:28:02, Anubis wrote:

Grow up? How about you grow up? I'm so sick and fucking tired of soapbox pieces of shit like you always fighting against profanity by saying it's childish. Who the fuck do you think you are, bitch? Now, I think all people have a right to cuss, but I could have sworn.... **it goes on**
Wow, quite the essay there. I'm not surprised that took you three days to come up with - if I had a wife, I'd have spent that time with her personally. Please, continue your "warpath", your tear-soaked rants are quite the source of amusement.
CrplsPosted on 02/13/05 at 01:28:07

So, how about that there Styles Clash?
91Posted on 02/13/05 at 01:32:55

God bless A.J. Styles, may he defeat Jeff Jarrett and end all the bickering re TNA.
Oliver CoppPosted on 02/13/05 at 09:08:44

Please guys - end the flame war. This has always been a positive place and it should stay that way.

If there's an issue between you, please take it to personal mail.

Thanks,

Oliver
91Posted on 02/13/05 at 12:22:48

Fair play to you. I wouldn't say I was flaming as much as just watching him get all wound up over... well who knows. Probably best you stepped in though, I got the impression he was going to start dragging it to other threads for the sake of it. But yeah, since you asked so nicely, I'll leave him to his own devices.

That said, it hasn't ALWAYS been a positive place. Remember on the old boards the cafuffle when some people got all pissy because people were posting card results on the forum? Those were the days - when there was just one big registered users board, and a multimedia board where people would beg for free registration codes. *sigh*
HugeRockStar760Posted on 02/13/05 at 19:22:03

On 02/13/05 at 12:22:48, 91 wrote:Fair play to you. I wouldn't say I was flaming as much as just watching him get all wound up over... well who knows. Probably best you stepped in though, I got the impression he was going to start dragging it to other threads for the sake of it. But yeah, since you asked so nicely, I'll leave him to his own devices.

That said, it hasn't ALWAYS been a positive place. Remember on the old boards the cafuffle when some people got all pissy because people were posting card results on the forum? Those were the days - when there was just one big registered users board, and a multimedia board where people would beg for free registration codes. *sigh*
That was because Chris Coey was jealous that no one cared about his cards, so he wanted to take all the fun away from everyone else.  He did that anywhere he posted.

 
91Posted on 02/13/05 at 19:25:18

Chris Coey... name doesn't strike any chords. Were his cards not very good then?
HugeRockStar760Posted on 02/13/05 at 20:26:29

On 02/13/05 at 19:25:18, 91 wrote:Chris Coey... name doesn't strike any chords. Were his cards not very good then?
It had nothing to do with card quality.  Stuff like that is always subjective anyways.  He usually ran a puro circuit and being the pretentious mark he is, thought it was obviously better than anything else that was posted.  Of course, he barely ever got any replies, and if he did, it was of the courtesy variety; you know, acting as if you really read the circuit, but in reality you don't.

So not long afterwards he started complaining about TNM Results being posted on a TNM Message Board.  Of course, he got his way, and a separate circuit board was created.  Of course, the board never worked and thus, there was no way to post results on the main TNM site until these boards were created.

He also complained about every minor detail in circuit results other people posted.  "That's not realistic, blah blah blah."

91Posted on 02/13/05 at 20:59:46

On 02/13/05 at 20:26:29, HugeRockStar760 wrote:

He also complained about every minor detail in circuit results other people posted. "That's not realistic, blah blah blah."

And that there is the beauty of TNM - it doesn't HAVE to be realistic. If I want Gene Snitsky to defeat Mitsuhara Misawa by suddenly breathing fire on him, then Jon Heidenreich to beat Toshiaki Kawada with lasers that shoot out of his eyes, then damnit I will.
Snabbit888Posted on 02/13/05 at 21:15:09

You so need to bring Snitsky/Heidenreich into DWF and have them think they have superpowers (breathing fire and lasers from the eyes respectively) and watch the chaos ensue.
TerryFunkaPosted on 02/13/05 at 21:18:44

Snitsky the Baby Killing Power Ranger
americamamushiPosted on 02/13/05 at 21:24:57

On 02/13/05 at 21:15:09, Snabbit888 wrote:You so need to bring Snitsky/Heidenreich into DWF and have them think they have superpowers (breathing fire and lasers from the eyes respectively) and watch the chaos ensue.
I bow to you sir
91Posted on 02/13/05 at 22:28:00

I swear to God, that's tempting...
Snabbit888Posted on 02/13/05 at 22:59:58

And the best part is, with the characters Snitsky and Heidenreich have, it's not that farfetched that they would think something that ridiculous.
Some GuyPosted on 02/16/05 at 01:45:43

actually there were tons of people complaining about posting circuts in the main board, not just coey. I think the formatting of the old boards just made it a pain in the ass to read, or maybe it was that posts where getting deleted to fast, couldn't really remember all the details.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 02/16/05 at 02:28:43

On 02/16/05 at 01:45:43, Some Guy wrote:actually there were tons of people complaining about posting circuts in the main board, not just coey. I think the formatting of the old boards just made it a pain in the ass to read, or maybe it was that posts where getting deleted to fast, couldn't really remember all the details.
Not true.  There were one, maybe three people who constantly complained.  It was all for selfish reasons.  

It pretty much contributed with TNM involvement going downhill at the time. It was so negative on that board, and Coey was to blame.
UnrightPosted on 03/18/05 at 14:58:17

On 02/13/05 at 12:22:48, 91 wrote:
That said, it hasn't ALWAYS been a positive place. Remember on the old boards the cafuffle when some people got all pissy because people were posting card results on the forum? Those were the days - when there was just one big registered users board, and a multimedia board where people would beg for free registration codes. *sigh*
Wow.. I'm not even sure if cafuffle is a word, but that would be the perfect word to describe the big fuss that was raised.