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meetzorakPosted on 08/18/04 at 07:07:41

I'm not much of a talker but let me just get this off my chest i think monty brown is gonna make it big and i mean really big the alpha male is defineitly gonna move up the ladder to the WWE and i see at least a WWE tag title IN HIS FUTURE IF NOT THE WORLD ITLE I MEAN IT WOULD BE ABOUT TIME THE LAST TIME I SAW A 100% champion is when ron simmions won the wcw title back in 92-93


thanx for listening
Chris AllenPosted on 08/18/04 at 16:39:47

...His finisher is a shoulderblock.  He, for the lack of a better word, barks at the camera.

He's like a big, bald, black Rick Steiner who wears leopard skin tights.  Sorry, I don't see him going anywhere.
americamamushiPosted on 08/18/04 at 19:40:07

I could see him going places.  I dunno about world title in the WWE, but I could see tag maybe.  His finisher is a shoulderblock, but it doesn't matter what his finisher is, what matters is if a majority of the fans buy it as being match-ending, which I think they do (Well, TNA fans) at least to a degree.  I could use a slap to the face as my finisher, sure it's just a slap, but if the fans thought that it was the most powerful slap in the history of slaps and they believed that my slap could win a match and they buy it as a devistating finisher then it works just as well as if I did ten flips off the top rope, spontaneously combusted, split into two seperate engery beings and hit double moonsault that plowed the victim through to the center of the earth.  If they buy it they buy it.  But yes, he does bark at the camera and does sometimes seem like an african american dog-faced gremlin in leopard skin tights.  Personally, I thought he was alot better when he was working in the AWWL in Lansing, Michigan.
meetzorakPosted on 08/18/04 at 20:18:43

Rick Steiner Won tag team gold now didn't he. give him a good big white partner and we got selves the acoloytes i mean all they did is clotheslines and shoulderblock and they one the WWE Titles like 5 times as for the finisher lets looks at some tapes form the past when it's waws ok to finish off your oppenent with a simple bodyslam or backdrop also i think monty brown can get a new gimmick i mean WWE will probaly team him up with Mark Henry and call them the new nation or something WWE is really starting to strech for ideas.
meetzorakPosted on 08/18/04 at 20:21:11

P.S. about the shoulderblock Hulk Hogan used the leg drop for 30 years and he can still pin any wrestler of today with it u feel me.
americamamushiPosted on 08/18/04 at 21:54:54

First off, Monty Brown is no Rick Steiner.  I mean, Rick is no wrestling god by any means, but still.  Second, I don't think mentioning the Acolytes is gonna help your case with anyone any :)  I think everyone's beef with Monty using a shoulderblock is that in this age of wrestling, everything is high impact and not always quite as simple as just a shoulder block.  On the surface, a shoulder block doesn't seem like the greatest finisher in the world, but of coarse, neither does a standing elbow drop (ie the People's Elbow, it's standing because he stops running before he drops it, making the running pointless, though showy)  Back in the day they didn't have guys executing Shooter Star Splashes or Tiger Drivers or Dragon Suplexes or Front Flip Piledrivers.  It was a different time.  Comparing using a shoulder block then (like the Patrio's Flynig Shoulder Block) to a shoulder block now is a moot point.  It was an entirely different world that Monty Brown didn't come from.  Hopefully if he went to WWE they'd at least tweak his gimmick a little and not place him with Mark Henry.
AnubisPosted on 08/18/04 at 22:03:47

Honestly, Monty Brown just doesn't jive with me.

I, for one, can't buy a shoulderblock as a finisher.  A legdrop is a stretch, but I can buy it as a finisher when someone as big as Hogan does it.  (In other words, I wouldn't buy it if Rey Mysterio did it.  Guillotine Legdrop, sure, but not the regular legdrop.)  The shoulderblock is just too pitiful.  That thing doesn't even match up with the People's Elbow, although it does register above the Worm at least.  Aside from that, Brown has no charisma, really.

That's not to say I don't see potential, though.  Brown is an amazing athlete, and if worked right, he could be big.

1. Give him a better finisher.

2. Make him a badass instead of a monkey.

Personally, I would give him an "American Badass" Undertaker type of gimmick, like a biker or something, and give him the Jackhammer for a finisher.
xsouporheroxPosted on 08/20/04 at 18:53:05

Monty is just crazy. Crazy over and has crazy charisma.
AnubisPosted on 08/21/04 at 01:19:20

I don't see that much charisma, and he doesn't seem THAT over.  He's nowhere near the level of A.J. Styles or Raven.
xsouporheroxPosted on 08/21/04 at 15:48:37

The crowd seems into him a lot more than they seem into Raven these days. And the TNA fans will always love AJ no matter how the bookers treat him. He is their first 'home grown' star.
americamamushiPosted on 08/21/04 at 18:26:18

The crowd seems into him a lot more than they seem into Raven these days. And the TNA fans will always love AJ no matter how the bookers treat him. He is their first 'home grown' star.
Yeah, AJ Styles could probably take a dump in the ring and get a pop :)
Snabbit888Posted on 08/21/04 at 23:23:59

After finally actually getting to see the Pounce, I think it is very credible.  It's not just a shoulderblock; it's a big ass running full blast shoulderblock.  Hell, Goldberg's spear is just a tackle, right?  Not at all, because with his power, he blows through guys.  When I first heard shoulderblock, I thought your standard transition spot shoulderblock.  Brown uses a big fucking shoulderblock.  I buy it.
AnubisPosted on 08/22/04 at 04:48:03

I guarantee that if you got hit by Goldberg's spear and then by Monty Brown's pounce, the spear would hurt about a hundred times more.

I would fear Goldberg's spear.  A tackle is not to be underestimated.  I only wish I could take the Pounce just once just so I could get up and laugh about it.  I doubt that, reality-wise, the move would hurt . . . AT ALL.
Snabbit888Posted on 08/22/04 at 05:50:27

In terms of the wrestling world though, a tackle isn't exactly impressive.  Keep your arguments consistent here.  You would say a guy who used a punch as a finisher would be weak.  It would be the dumbest finisher ever.  Very pathetic.  But if you took a punch from the guy, it wouldn't be so weak.  They're different worlds, pro-wrestling and real life.  And I'm sure you wouldn't get up and laugh.  Body on body hurts.  He runs into a guy full blast.  That would hurt.  And don't say it wouldn't because that's uninformed and ignorant.  Hell, in my wrestling training, the "weak" stuff is what's been hurting me the most.  I've been more sore taking armdrags than anything.
meetzorakPosted on 08/22/04 at 06:22:15

listen man i started the conversation about monty he needs a new finisher no doubt about it and the spear looks a lot more credible and it looks like it hurts like hell!
americamamushiPosted on 08/22/04 at 06:25:49

I guarantee that if you got hit by Goldberg's spear and then by Monty Brown's pounce, the spear would hurt about a hundred times more.

I would fear Goldberg's spear.  A tackle is not to be underestimated.  I only wish I could take the Pounce just once just so I could get up and laugh about it.  I doubt that, reality-wise, the move would hurt . . . AT ALL
I personally would rather have a guy spear me and bring me down (not just by hitting, but by grabbing and using gravity to take you down as well) than just have a big guy smash the heck into me at god knows how many pounds of force.  I try and be nice but here's the straight shit, if you got hit by the pounce I'm sure that not only would you not laugh, you wouldn't get up either.  You probably wouldn't get up for a while.  I don't care who you are or how long you've been wrestling, getting banged into in any form hurts like a bitch.  From my pro wrestling experience (and I'm not talking about any backyard shit, I'm talking the real indy deal) everything hurts.  Headlocks hurt, punches hurt, suplexes hurt, armdrags hurt, having a 320lbs guy give you a half boston crab really hurts.  Thats why anyone that ever tells yuo wrestlnig is fake is an ignorant fool because it's most certainly not fake.  Now given that it's been way too long since I've been in a ring (going on 5 years unfortunently and it kills me) and the only match wrestling I did was in training, not in front of a crowd, but all the pain that wrestlers endure from everything is something that even if I didn't have plans on getting back into wrestling would never, ever leave me.