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UFC 97 Predictions anyone?
| Mamushi | Posted on 04/17/09 at 19:33:28 Main card... -Silva over Leites (KO or TKO, 1st or 2nd round) -Liddell over Rua (KO or TKO, 2nd round. This would've been a better fight a few years ago) -Stann over Soszynski (unanimous decision. I wasn't big of Soszynski during TUF and haven't been terribly impressed by him, but I think it'll be close) -Hardonk over Kongo (unanimous decision) -Cane over Cantwell Undercard... -Magalhães over Marshall -Kang over Foupa-Pokam -Quarry over McDonald -Loiseau over Herman -Boceck over Bielkheden -Chonan over Grant -Wiman over Stout |
| Carlzilla | Posted on 04/17/09 at 19:57:22 Silva over Leites Rua over Liddell (Liddell is washed up.) Stann over Soszynski (Stann is the only fighter I've heard of in this one, so I've gotta go with him.) Kongo over Hardonk Cane over Cantwell |
| Mamushi | Posted on 04/18/09 at 00:48:12 Got a little bored and simmed the card with the Ultimate MMA Simulator. (A few matches are missing because the guys weren't in the database) Results... Doctor Stoppage (Swollen eye) Round 5 (0:44) Anderson Silva wins over Thales Leites KO (Punch) Round 2 (1:00) Mauricio Rua wins over Chuck Liddell KO (Punch) Round 1 (2:30) Brian Stann wins over Krzysztof Soszynski Split Decision Round 3 (5:00) Cheick Kongo wins over Antoni Hardonk TKO (Ground Strikes) Round 2 (2:13) Luis Arthur Cane wins over Steve Cantwell Submission (Kimura) Round 1 (4:12) Denis Kang wins over Xavier Foupa-Pokam Unanimous Decision Round 3 (5:00) Nathan Quarry wins over Jason MacDonald TKO (Ground Strikes) Round 3 (2:58 ) Ed Herman wins over David Loiseau TKO (Head Kick) Round 3 (2:14) David Bielkheden wins over Mark Bocek TKO (Ground Strikes) Round 1 (4:46) Sam Stout wins over Matt Wiman It always amuses me to see how close sims get to the actual results. |
| Zedja | Posted on 04/18/09 at 20:48:52 It starts at 4:00 AM on my channel. I might try to watch it live for once. |
| Mamushi | Posted on 04/19/09 at 08:36:09 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_97 I went 5-7 Carlzilla went 4-1 And the simulator went 8-2 |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 04/19/09 at 15:00:10 Silva-Leites WAS SO AWFUL. |
| phudjie | Posted on 04/20/09 at 04:29:19 .....that's the first time I've seen a BJJ black belt refuse to fight somebody on the ground..... .....they made a big deal about how Silva always weathers a first minute storm and then counters away to a win, Leites just kinda called him on it and waited for Silva to make the first move, and once he figured out that Silva had no intention to fight him on the ground, he flopped everytime he though Silva would gain an upper hand..... .....if Silve as this bored with his competition, he should vacate his title and move on to whatever else he feels like doing, performances like this and the last defense against Cote are doing more damage to the title than just vacating it..... |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 04/21/09 at 02:25:03On 04/20/09 at 04:29:19, phudjie wrote:It doesn't help that Leites and Cote seemed to be afraid of Silva and fighting ridiculously conservatively. I think Silva is bored because the people who get in the octagon with him don't actually seem to want to FIGHT him. |
| phudjie | Posted on 04/21/09 at 07:42:00 .....I'm bored at my job too, but I still do it and don't embarrass myself, my co-workers or my boss while I do it..... |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 04/21/09 at 18:00:56On 04/21/09 at 07:42:00, phudjie wrote:.....I'm bored at my job too, but I still do it and don't embarrass myself, my co-workers or my boss while I do it.....But what is his job? This is not professional wrestling where their job is 100% to entertain. While we'd all like the matches to be entertaining, UFC fighters are still paid based on whether or not they WIN not whether the crowd chants "boring". Otherwise they'd never schedule two BJJ guys to fight each other because two guys on the mat barely moving for 15 minutes - while a chess match to anyone who knows BJJ - bores the hell out of 99% of the audience. I would've liked Silva to be more aggressive, but there is a fight on almost every card where one or both guys isn't being aggressive (anyone remember the snoozefest that was Lidell vs Jardine? the entire match was Chuck throwing a half dozen punches and Jardine occasionally kicking him in the leg). It doesn't help when your opponent flops on his back a record number of times. People have complained Silva didn't attack him on the ground but pretty much every time Theites was on his back his legs were at Silva and almost nobody tries to attack through someone's legs unless their opponent hit the mat from being dazed by a strike. |
| TiLoBrown | Posted on 04/22/09 at 17:46:29On 04/21/09 at 18:00:56, LillaThrilla wrote:This combined with 1st round KO main events are the main reasons why I cant get in to MMA I think. I don't mind a boring fight if both people are trying to win, but its mostly both people being overly defensive to attack. And who wants to a 2 minute main event? I don't care if you show the undercard afterward... |
| Snabbit888 | Posted on 04/22/09 at 22:04:27 I'm the same way. When a fight is good, it's really good. But MMA is such a crapshoot. It very rarely delivers in my eyes any time I watch it. Wrestling doesn't always deliver either, but its scripted nature gives it a far better chance to succeed. |
| LillaThrilla | Posted on 04/23/09 at 05:19:18 This is why I watch UFC PPVs over dinner & drinks with friends at a sports bar rather than shilling out $50. |
| TiLoBrown | Posted on 04/23/09 at 19:46:59On 04/23/09 at 05:19:18, LillaThrilla wrote:This is why I watch UFC PPVs over dinner & drinks with friends at a sports bar rather than shilling out $50.I only watch them at Hooters and even then I still feel jipped. 1 friend hates Hooters so it started ordering the PPVs at his house which does have a bigger TV and better setting to talk, but he likes to charge us to watch. So I'm all KICKWHAMSTUNNER! |
| psz | Posted on 04/24/09 at 00:28:45 Back in the day, when I was still working retail, all the MMA and Wrestling fans would rotate ordering PPVs. One month I would get a WWE PPV, the next month Arafat would get the next WWE PPV, then John would get a UFC, Chuck would get a WCW, etc etc. We had enough people that between WWE, WCW, ECW, and UFC we each only ordered maybe 2 PPVs per year. The Order-er was in charge of the five large pizzas. BYOB. Worked out well. (or rather... SHould have... Retail has a nasty habit of cycling through people and having crap hours sometimes.) |