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cerberosPosted on 01/13/04 at 21:00:07

Recently I have been having a hard time getting a circuit going.  I get three or four cards in and give up.  I think it has something to do with my roster.  I was wondering how all of you out there pick your rosters, maybe I can use one of these styles myself.  Thank you.

Geno
Chad_SiskPosted on 01/13/04 at 21:29:40

I prefer picking a time period and running cards with a real roster. That way you already have an idea about the characters and you can build from there. I find it easier than starting from scratch.
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/14/04 at 00:30:47

I've been having the same problem for quite some time now.  I used to have a circuit I had running for more than 200+ cards, but due to a bug in the TNM program, it got deleted.  

It's been hard to start a circuit since so many people nowadays are really anal and picky about everything when they read circuits.  

Another question about rosters maybe...Do people organize their rosters by "MAIN EVENTERS, UPPER MIDCARDERS, MIDCARDERS, ETC" or by title division?  Like "WORLD TITLE, US TITLE, TV TITLE, ETC".  
Dameyon_MoorePosted on 01/14/04 at 09:28:23

On 01/13/04 at 21:00:07, cerberos wrote:Recently I have been having a hard time getting a circuit going. I get three or four cards in and give up. I think it has something to do with my roster. I was wondering how all of you out there pick your rosters, maybe I can use one of these styles myself. Thank you.

Geno
Here's a small idea.  Pick a promoter type character -- a Vince McMahon, or a Paul Heyman, or whomever -- and hire them.  This'll allow you to run cards.  Run one card or so using nothing but the mystery opponent option.  This will get you a roster of wrestlers and you don't know who you're going to get, but as you get them, creativity might spark as how to use them.  Every once and a while, if you're feeling the itch for new blood, use the mystery opponent option again.

I did this before and it was pretty damned cool.  I like it because it gives me that level of unpredictability that I enjoy from the real stuff, and it creates some pretty interesting matches and possible angles and whatnot.

Another approach I've taken, the one I've kept running the longest thus far, is just hire whom you want.  And instead of trying to run angles or gimmicks or storylines, run it as an actual sport.  Wins matter.  With this I run twenty eight cards a month, one for each day of the week, and at the end of those twenty eight cards, whomever has the most wins in each respectable division (heavyweight, intercontinental, us heavyweight [which I'm thinking about unifying, 'cause I've always liked the idea of a Triple Crown Heavyweight Title] tag team, cruiserweight [which I renamed Super-X] cruiserweight tag, women's [renamed Lady-X], women's tag, and an openweight division for those oddball matches like Rey Mysterio vs. The Undertaker for a title belt, without it being the heavyweight belts) gets a shot at the title.

This, for me, is the most fun way to play with TNM, and it also requires the least amount of effort creatively -- which is necessary for me, 'cause I can't let a game eat too much of my time up these days.  Plus you end up with some very quirky championship reigns.  I do, however, employ the idea of Jobbing quitters.  So if anyone quits, I use them as fodder to give people extra wins.  Maybe that's cheating, but, hey.
Dameyon_MoorePosted on 01/14/04 at 09:35:23

On 01/14/04 at 00:30:47, HugeRockStar760 wrote:I've been having the same problem for quite some time now. I used to have a circuit I had running for more than 200+ cards, but due to a bug in the TNM program, it got deleted.

It's been hard to start a circuit since so many people nowadays are really anal and picky about everything when they read circuits.

Another question about rosters maybe...Do people organize their rosters by "MAIN EVENTERS, UPPER MIDCARDERS, MIDCARDERS, ETC" or by title division? Like "WORLD TITLE, US TITLE, TV TITLE, ETC".
Definitely by title division, and my titles are the most important things.  I don't want to pull a NWA TNA and have a guy under two-hundred and twenty-five pounds as the "heavyweight" champion of the world, y'know?  I really like AJ Styles, but he's not a heavyweight.  I have three separate heavyweight divisions, though, World, United States, and Intercontinental.  Going to unify them shortly 'cause I want a prestigious Triple Crown Heavyweight Title.


I like to give everyone a fair shot.  Unless I absolutely dislike them, or don't really know who they are.
vphankPosted on 01/14/04 at 19:09:30

I have a mixture of made up wrestlers (I used to run an e-wrestling league and I've been in many) and real wrestlers.  The real wrestlers I have are the ones that I liked the most and come from different times and from different promotions.  My circuit is in e-mail mode too, because I don't want to worry about hiring and firing people.

I also have both a men's and women's division and 8 titles total (World, World Tag, IC, Hardcore, Cruiserweight, IWGP World, Woman's, and Six Man Tag).  I have a combined roster of 129 wrestlers.  There are 5 jobbers included so that my wrestlers can get wins if they haven't won in a while.

As for match making, I just kinda throw them together.  I am real big on stables fighting one another in all the different types of matches.  Now there are certain people who can only go for certain titles.  My cruiserweights, 240 lbs. or smaller, (especially the real small ones) don't usually go the the World Title.  

But to keep it interesting, throw in Rumbles, tournaments, gimmick matches, etc.  Look at some of the popular, and not so popular, PPV's: Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, World War 3, Battle Bowl, Halloween Havoc (with the Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal), Fall Brawl (only for War Games, the two ring cage rules), King of the Ring, and I'm sure there are more that people like.

The visualizer makes it better to run a card now because there is more than just text on the screen.  In my opinion, the visualizer is the best add-on for TNM!!  Mad props to Sir Oliver!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Critic_of_the_DawnPosted on 01/14/04 at 19:58:26

On 01/14/04 at 09:35:23, Dameyon_Moore wrote:

Definitely by title division, and my titles are the most important things. I don't want to pull a NWA TNA and have a guy under two-hundred and twenty-five pounds as the "heavyweight" champion of the world, y'know? I really like AJ Styles, but he's not a heavyweight. I have three separate heavyweight divisions, though, World, United States, and Intercontinental. Going to unify them shortly 'cause I want a prestigious Triple Crown Heavyweight Title.


I like to give everyone a fair shot. Unless I absolutely dislike them, or don't really know who they are.
While there's something to be said for weight playing a factor in matches, I'll generally give cruisers shots at the Heavyweight Title if they're over enough and have enough wins.  If you think about it, there have been several credible Heavyweight champions that began in the cruiserweight division.  Look at Chris Jericho, for example.  He was quite successful in WCW as the cornerstone of their Cruiserweight division, and once in WWE he eventually became the first Undisputed Champion.  Shawn Michaels isn't much more than a cruiserweight himself.  I think they list him at 220 pounds, and that's probably an exaggeration.  Chris Benoit got his start as a Cruiserweight as well, and while he hasn't won the World Title yet, he appears to be heading in that direction.  So what's the problem with Styles, who is listed at 220 himself, and is one of the 2 most over men in TNA?  I personally think a Cruiser can make a very effective Heavyweight Champion if booked properly.  A heel will probably be using a lot of interference and cheap tactics to gain momentum, while a face makes a great underdog against larger opponents.

For example, in my NWA Keystone circuit, Crash Holly is presently my Heavyweight Champion (and yes, I decided that before he died).  My 2 biggest stars, Chris Jericho and Rhyno, pretty much eliminated each other from the tournament, leaving The Hurricane and Crash Holly in the finals to wrestle a 20 minute long ****+ match.  Crash has Bill DeMott as an enforcer of sorts, and is presently very over with his gimmick of a sadistic bastard who is sick of being seen as comic relief, not to mention nearly undefeated.  Is he a little small?  Yes.  But he's definately a solid champion that the virtual crowd wants to see get what's coming to him.  Unfortunately, he's going to die before that's planned to happen, so I'm going to have to run with that and see what I can come up with.

As for how I divide up my wrestlers, I presently organize them by title division.  In the past, however, I've organized them by card position.  For the most part they tended to be one and the same, however.  So... yeah.  It's easier to just use divisions.

By the way, if you're looking for a good way to pick a roster, I reccomend watching HeAT and Velocity for a couple weeks and taking whoever competes on those shows.  If there are jobbers you've never heard of, either skip them or pick someone you like.  That's how I got the roster for my NWA Keystone circuit.

Eric "Critic of the Dawn"
HugeRockStar760Posted on 01/15/04 at 04:40:02

While we're at it, how many wrestlers do you usually put per division normally?  I was thinking maybe 4 in the WORLD TITLE division, 8 in the US/IC division, etc etc etc...